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** Keep just the eponymous category. This is used for Category:Farmworkers in Category:People by occupation. Such "X by Y" categories sometimes cover a limited navigational set, not a topic (see #Category tree organization), thus there is no logical article content. '''There are no "X by Y" categories in the involved category tree.''' | ** Keep just the eponymous category. This is used for Category:Farmworkers in Category:People by occupation. Such "X by Y" categories sometimes cover a limited navigational set, not a topic (see #Category tree organization), thus there is no logical article content. '''There are no "X by Y" categories in the involved category tree.''' | ||
So, the first option is used for cities categories. ] (]) 20:19, 13 March 2018 (UTC) | So, the first option is used for cities categories. ] (]) 20:19, 13 March 2018 (UTC) | ||
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I'm sorry I reverted you on Portal:Current events/2018 March 7. You were right. L293D (☎ • ✎) 00:33, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
- Ok. Good luck. 91.124.117.29 (talk) 00:34, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
My apologies.
Sorry for warning. Optakeover 17:47, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
- Ok. Good luck. 91.124.117.29 (talk) 17:47, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
WP:EPON
Well, now, have you read WP:EPON???
- Articles with an eponymous category may be categorized in the broader categories that would be present if there were no eponymous category... Editors should decide by consensus which solution makes most sense for a category tree. (emphasis mine).
What you are doing is not, of course, wrong, but there was nothing wrong with how things stood before your edits either, and since your way is not how the vast majority of the remaining Russia-related content is categorized anyway, it is important to gauge a new consensus (or at least try to work out your differences) before making any changes (especially in bulk). You are very welcome to do so, but you should do that instead of revert-warring. If any newly established consensus favors your approach, then re-categorization should be done systematically and properly, not haphazardly.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); March 13, 2018; 19:56 (UTC)
- Note, all geographic categories for other countries use the WP:EPON rule. What is the difference for Russia? 91.124.117.29 (talk) 20:00, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
- The difference is the existing setup. WP:EPON specifically makes a note of editor consensus (a part, I must add, you conveniently omitted when quoting the guideline on my talk page), and while there may not have been a formal discussion of the issue specifically for Russia, the setup is what it is, indicating implicit consensus (no one lodged any complaints in years before you showed up—you think there might be a reason why?). Furthermore, introducing changes in bulk by editing random categories without rhyme or reason, with no indication of a systematic approach, is the recipe for disaster. You should try following process instead of revert-warring; you'll find the results infinitely more rewarding.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); March 13, 2018; 20:07 (UTC)
- Don't add category like "Populated place established in X" for that cities' categories. Because the only main article (name_of_town) related to such category (subcats are unrelated). You were reverted many times not by me, see 91.124.117.29 (talk) 20:11, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
- The difference is the existing setup. WP:EPON specifically makes a note of editor consensus (a part, I must add, you conveniently omitted when quoting the guideline on my talk page), and while there may not have been a formal discussion of the issue specifically for Russia, the setup is what it is, indicating implicit consensus (no one lodged any complaints in years before you showed up—you think there might be a reason why?). Furthermore, introducing changes in bulk by editing random categories without rhyme or reason, with no indication of a systematic approach, is the recipe for disaster. You should try following process instead of revert-warring; you'll find the results infinitely more rewarding.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); March 13, 2018; 20:07 (UTC)
- From WP:EPON. There are three options:
- Keep both the eponymous category and the main article in the parent category. This is used in Category:Western Europe to allow that region's country articles to be navigated together. This rule is used for all geographic categories (town and cities) now.
- Keep just the child article. This is used in Category:British Islands, to prevent a loop. No any loops in discussed categories.
- Keep just the eponymous category. This is used for Category:Farmworkers in Category:People by occupation. Such "X by Y" categories sometimes cover a limited navigational set, not a topic (see #Category tree organization), thus there is no logical article content. There are no "X by Y" categories in the involved category tree.
So, the first option is used for cities categories. 91.124.117.29 (talk) 20:19, 13 March 2018 (UTC)