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| This page has gone back and forth a few times between being called "City Island, New York", and "City Island (New York)". Please leave the title in the comma style, as that is the wikipedia preferred style. See ]. | This page has gone back and forth a few times between being called "City Island, New York", and "City Island (New York)". Please leave the title in the comma style, as that is the wikipedia preferred style. See ]. | ||
| :I strongly disagree. It is not the preferred style, since City Island is not a city. It is an island, that is, a geographic feature. The policy in ] does ''not'' apply in this case. Geographic features, in my opinion, are must better designated by commas, since it avoids confusion with U.S. cities, and there a quite a few cases where geographic features straddle state boundaries. We have a long-established tradition of U.S. and Canadian rivers and lakes, for example, of using parentheses over the comma. Islands should be the same way, unless there is actually a city by the name that is coincident with the island itself. Neither Hart Island or City Island should have the comma, in my opinion, since there is no such municipality as "City Island, New York". If a comma is to be used, it should be ] in parallel with ]. Using the comma with the state ] puts it into the false representation as a census-designated place in the United States, which it is not. "City Island, New York" is |
:I strongly disagree. It is not the preferred style, since City Island is not a city. It is an island, that is, a geographic feature. The policy in ] does ''not'' apply in this case. Geographic features, in my opinion, are must better designated by commas, since it avoids confusion with U.S. cities, and there a quite a few cases where geographic features straddle state boundaries. We have a long-established tradition of U.S. and Canadian rivers and lakes, for example, of using parentheses over the comma. Islands should be the same way, unless there is actually a city by the name that is coincident with the island itself. Neither Hart Island or City Island should have the comma, in my opinion, since there is no such municipality as "City Island, New York". If a comma is to be used, it should be ] in parallel with ] (the comma is conventional in neighborhoods). Using the comma with the state ] puts it into the false representation as a census-designated place in the United States, which it is not. "City Island, New York" is simply unacceptable by that standard.-- ] 17:39, 2004 Dec 11 (UTC) | ||
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This page has gone back and forth a few times between being called "City Island, New York", and "City Island (New York)". Please leave the title in the comma style, as that is the wikipedia preferred style. See Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (city names).
- I strongly disagree. It is not the preferred style, since City Island is not a city. It is an island, that is, a geographic feature. The policy in Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (city names) does not apply in this case. Geographic features, in my opinion, are must better designated by commas, since it avoids confusion with U.S. cities, and there a quite a few cases where geographic features straddle state boundaries. We have a long-established tradition of U.S. and Canadian rivers and lakes, for example, of using parentheses over the comma. Islands should be the same way, unless there is actually a city by the name that is coincident with the island itself. Neither Hart Island or City Island should have the comma, in my opinion, since there is no such municipality as "City Island, New York". If a comma is to be used, it should be City Island, Bronx, New York in parallel with List of Bronx neighborhoods (the comma is conventional in neighborhoods). Using the comma with the state New York puts it into the false representation as a census-designated place in the United States, which it is not. "City Island, New York" is simply unacceptable by that standard.-- Decumanus 17:39, 2004 Dec 11 (UTC)