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| ::One cannot pick and choose which guidelines to follow. My recommendation to you is to follow the guideline and let an unbiased editor decide whether to keep this link or not. You are an interested party in this. You obviously want higher traffic to your website. It is understandable, but Misplaced Pages is not myspace.com. It is an encyclopedia. | ::One cannot pick and choose which guidelines to follow. My recommendation to you is to follow the guideline and let an unbiased editor decide whether to keep this link or not. You are an interested party in this. You obviously want higher traffic to your website. It is understandable, but Misplaced Pages is not myspace.com. It is an encyclopedia. | ||
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::You should be careful in calling me a vadal. It is a personal attack and you could get blocked for that. - ] <sup><em>]/]</em></sup> 10:40, 24 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
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| Merging two unrelated articles which are merely bound by a common name but denote different things is not acceptable. One is a biography, another is a notable event not related to the person except being named in his honour.--<span class="sigSrkris"> <big>ॐ</big> ] (] | ])</span> 10:29, 24 October 2006 (UTC) | Merging two unrelated articles which are merely bound by a common name but denote different things is not acceptable. One is a biography, another is a notable event not related to the person except being named in his honour.--<span class="sigSrkris"> <big>ॐ</big> ] (] | ])</span> 10:29, 24 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
| ::It is your opinion. However if the second page is a 'homage' to Chembai then it should belong in the main article. - ] <sup><em>]/]</em></sup> 10:43, 24 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Subjectivity
Not the neutral objective language of an encyclopedic article, more a subjective piece of adulation. Needs a little copy-editing. Citations, and links to terminology entries would also improve the article.
Went through last night, and added a whole raft of cross-links. Could probably do with some proof-reading and cross-checking to ensure that the links are correct in the case of multiple possibilities.
Now its almost entirely rewritten in a near-neutral language. I'm considering putting it up for GA assessment.-- ॐ Kris 16:33, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
- Not neutral enough, I'd suggest. The opening paragraph contains the following: "...powerful voice and majestic singing, which catapulted him to instant fame...". "powerful", "majestic", "catapulted" all very subjective words, and no citation for any of them.
- "It is said that..." Said by whom? Where? Verified how?
- "...was a highly respected musician." Respected by whom? Documented where?
- The article is still in need of some attention, added to whch a lot of the references that were cited before have now disappeared and need to be re-sourced. Cain Mosni 20:30, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Cain, thanks for the feedback... I agree there's still much scope for improvement. Please let me know about other specific issues that I have to address to better it.-- ॐ Kris ( talk | contribs) 23:35, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Fancruft
This article is nothing but an outpourings of an ardant fan. This needs a total rewrite for tone, facts and neutrality. - Parthi 23:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- Read WP:MOS for help in writing WP articles and on encyclopedic style.- Parthi 23:17, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Yeah thanks a million for the idea.-- ॐ Kris ( talk | contribs) 23:20, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- You are welcome. No go and rewrite the article with a more neutral style. Or I will do it for you. Make sure you get copyright permission from the rasikas.org website. Oh, sorry I forgot. it is your own website isn't it! - Parthi 23:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
To use an aussie expression, don't get your knickers in a knot over this. You can make edits on Misplaced Pages, the article doesnt belong to me, and I cant be bothered by trite messages-- ॐ Kris ( talk | contribs) 23:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Verifiability
Verifiability guidelines say that an article cannot cite a source that is 'self published'. This article cites extensively from http://www.rasikas.org/chembai/chembaiearlylife.html, which is a site maintained by User:Srikris. - Parthi 03:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
All these references have been updated to hard sources now. Link to www.chembai.com should not be removed since its the only comprehensive website on the singer and is no way detrimental to the article-- ॐ Kris ( talk | contribs) 08:59, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- External links guideline states in the section 'Links to be avoided':
- 3. A page that you own or maintain, even if the guidelines above imply that it should be linked. This is because of neutrality and point-of-view concerns; neutrality is an important and difficult objective at Misplaced Pages. If your page is relevant and informative, mention it on the talk page and let unbiased Misplaced Pages editors decide whether to add the link.
- Based on the above, I am removing the link. Let some 'unbiased' editors decide whether to include this link or not - Parthi 10:14, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Guidelines are suggestive and vandalism is not acceptable based on "enforcement" of guidelines.-- ॐ Kris ( talk | contribs) 10:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- One cannot pick and choose which guidelines to follow. My recommendation to you is to follow the guideline and let an unbiased editor decide whether to keep this link or not. You are an interested party in this. You obviously want higher traffic to your website. It is understandable, but Misplaced Pages is not myspace.com. It is an encyclopedia.
- You should be careful in calling me a vadal. It is a personal attack and you could get blocked for that. - Parthi 10:40, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Merger
Merging two unrelated articles which are merely bound by a common name but denote different things is not acceptable. One is a biography, another is a notable event not related to the person except being named in his honour.-- ॐ Kris ( talk | contribs) 10:29, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- It is your opinion. However if the second page is a 'homage' to Chembai then it should belong in the main article. - Parthi 10:43, 24 October 2006 (UTC)