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United States presidential election, 2020

You recently added polling info for declined candidates. Can you explain how this is helpful? Brian Everlasting (talk) 14:58, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

I seriously don't understand the argument that polls including declined candidates should be disregarded. People change their minds. John Kasich, Mark Cuban, and Joe Biden have both gone back and forth on whether or not they would run just in the last six months. Cory Booker and Andrew Cuomo have "declined" by saying they'll focus on their respective reelection campaigns. As I've already explained on the talk page: In 2013, early general election polls for 2016 included Joe Biden, Andrew Cuomo, Howard Dean, John Kerry, Elizabeth Warren, Sarah Palin, and Paul Ryan. Polls are useful information, period. They should not be excluded just because they feature a likely speculative candidate that has declined three and a half years before the election. IOnlyKnowFiveWords (talk) 15:35, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
If the candidates are worth considering they shouldn't be classified as 'declined', they should be speculative. A candidate shouldn't be on both 'declined' and polls at the same time. Brian Everlasting (talk) 16:13, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
According to whom? This is the way it's always been done. These are hypothetical polls. IOnlyKnowFiveWords (talk) 16:35, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

United states election 2020

You recently reverted one of my edits stating i misread the rules.

This is what the rules say:

   ===Candidates who have publicly expressed interest===
   Candidates in this section have expressed an interest in running for President within the last six months.
   ***Candidates in this section only need one source
   ***Sources in this section can go back a maximum of six months
   ***Sources should be from after the 2016 Presidential Election
   ***Candidates in this section should not have expressed interest via social media

I read the rules correctly. Candidates who have publicly expressed interest only need one source. Crewcamel (talk) 01:52, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

You seem to be omitting the part where it says that they should have between 1 and 3 sources...
   ===Candidates who have publicly expressed interest===
   Candidates in this section have expressed an interest in running for President within the last six months.
   ***Candidates in this section only need one source
   ***Sources in this section can go back a maximum of six months
   ***Sources should be from after the 2016 Presidential Election
   ***There should be one to three sources for a potential candidate
   ***Candidates in this section should not have expressed interest via social media
It specifies that the section "only needs" 1 source, since the other sections require at least 2. I see no point in removing sources that aren't excessive (3 is certainly not excessive by the way, since most candidates on the page already have 3). IOnlyKnowFiveWords (talk) 02:12, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

You are now an extended confirmed user

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Ref issue

I have fixed the issue you raised here. I went to the template's talk page for help. Here is the response I got. Callmemirela 🍁 21:19, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm not super well-versed in Misplaced Pages language. I learn as I go, I suppose. IOnlyKnowFiveWords (talk) 21:35, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

WP:1RR warning

Hey, WP:1RR applies to the United States presidential election, 2020 article so please remember to not do more than one revert within 24 hours. Prcc27 (talk) 04:37, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

David Petraeus

I have reverted your edit to the David Petraeus page (Revision 807481460), but not without valid reasons. In the citation for his political party he is quoted as saying "I'm completely non-partisan."

Futhermore he is quoted in an interview in December 2016 saying that he doesn't vote at all.

InitiatedCall (talk) 16:44, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

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Kanye West endorsements

Hi IOnlyKnowFiveWords, I think the Kanye West endorsements made after his VMAs speech should be reinstated, because he said "I have decided in 2020 to run for president." () So any individuals or organizations that endorsed him were endorsing him for 2020, why assume they changed their minds after the 2016 election if they already knew who the candidates would be in 2015. --Theo (contribs) 21:44, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Because our consensus for the article when it comes to sources for speculation, polls, endorsements, etc. is that it must come from after the 2016 election. There's also just the issue that West is very likely to not actually run (he even mentioned something about 2024 instead). He hasn't filed with the FEC, he's only made I believe one other public statement about the 2020 race, and we don't even know his political party. I think it'd be safe to say he'd be a satirical candidate like Vincente Fox, Stephen Colbert, or Waka Flocka Flame unless he actually takes steps to legitimize his campaign. And regardless, a lot of those "endorsements" were really weak. JT just said "Kanye is so cute, y'all." how is that a political endorsement in the slightest? IOnlyKnowFiveWords (talk) 22:44, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
Ok, I didn't know you had made that consensus, but comparing Kanye to Vincente Fox, who is just plain ineligible or Stephen Colbert, who is a satirical candidate (I don't know anything about Waka Flocka Flame's campaign) is not consistent with what reliable sources on the internet say or Kanye's attitude towards running. Three U.S. Presidents have had something to say about him running (, ), The Telegraph also reports the Democrats tweeted that they wish him luck when he enters the race as one of their candidates and illustrated most of their tweets after with Kanye gifs and noted that his net worth is higher than Hillary Clinton's by at least $100 million (all here ). Most of the endorsement tweets, including JT's tweet where from a website article called "Celebs Who Are Definitely Voting Kanye 2020" or something, but I wasn't sure the website was reliable (looked like it was written for teen girls) so sourced the tweets directly instead. My point is whenever you make any edits to the 2020 election article related to West or his own article in the future you shouldn't let your view that his run for President is "satirical" affect how the articles look. Thanks, --Theo (contribs) 01:21, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

April 2018

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on United States presidential election, 2020. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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