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	:::I wanted to go back and see if I had interacted with Gryffindor on such things in the past. It seems like the closest we came to discussing this was , when there was discussion on how to disambiguate some Japanese prefectures. ]<small>]</small> 22:04, 10 April 2018 (UTC)		:::I wanted to go back and see if I had interacted with Gryffindor on such things in the past. It seems like the closest we came to discussing this was , when there was discussion on how to disambiguate some Japanese prefectures. ]<small>]</small> 22:04, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
	:I have reverted another of these that was blocked by an empty edit, as requested at ]. ]<small>]</small> 07:28, 11 April 2018 (UTC)}}		:I have reverted another of these that was blocked by an empty edit, as requested at ]. ]<small>]</small> 07:28, 11 April 2018 (UTC)}}

			I think you are confusing edits from an editor that you disagree with, and activities as a sysop. See this editing guideline ] for further information. Concerning the discussion you mentioned earlier on "House of X", feel free to comment in ]. ] (]) 21:44, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

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User:Gryffindor 's moves

User:Gryffindor has put through a large number of moves from "House of Foo" titles today that have been objected to. They can be seen here. I don't have time to do all the reversions at the moment. However, you can see objections to the moves at User talk:Gryffindor#Please stop moving "House of" articles without a discussion and consensus!, Talk:House of Dahn, and Talk:House of Stolberg. It would be a big help if someone could assist in moving these back so things can be sorted out. It looks like there was a previous spate of similar moves in February, but maybe we can deal with today for the time being. Dekimasuよ! 18:06, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

I am collapsing additional content below, but there are still reversions to be performed and help would be appreciated. There is also an active ANI thread at WP:ANI#Pattern of disruptive page moves. Dekimasuよ! 18:14, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

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*@Dekimasu: Here is a list of User:Gryffindor 's edits including page moves (but not deleted pages). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:26, 10 April 2018 (UTC) As per Gryffindor's talk page, this kind of belief that "House of" is always always wrong would be perfectly fine if he simply filed Requested Moves. Instead he uses the move -> make a nonsense edit on the original title technical trick to make it impossible to revert him and refuses to discuss his moves ever. He also quick-moves the related categories in Wikimedia Commons. Why he uses such tactics I can't begin to explain, but it manages to make what should be a boring titling dispute infuriating via flagrant gaming the system and refusing to explain his actions, and forcing the defenders of the status quo to be the ones to file Requested Moves. Ideally all these moves should be reverted and let Gryffindor file cogent RMs with a case-by-case justification for each move. SnowFire (talk) 20:42, 10 April 2018 (UTC) I hadn't read the whole talk page of Gryffindor and didn't realize this was a perennial issue. (I did protect Shogi from further undiscussed moves after an edit war, as linked on the talk page, but that doesn't mean much when one of the editors is an administrator.) It's clear Gryffindor has been advised in the past to file move requests for these sorts of pages, and has been warned by other admins against altering redirects to prevent reversions. It looks like everyone has been quite forgiving considering how long this has gone on, and I wouldn't blame anyone for escalating this complaint. Dekimasuよ! 21:33, 10 April 2018 (UTC) Being as charitable as possible, there are previous ANI discussions of Gryffindor’s unilateral moves from at least 2007, 2010, and 2012. See Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive254#Gryffindor out of control (sorry for the section name), Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive648#Unilateral page moving against consensus, and Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive771#A possible problem with undiscussed moves. There are others I’ve chosen not to include here. Given those discussions and the talk page, it’s clear that Gryffindor knows these moves are out of process and has a long-term tendency to proceed anyway. I wonder if others from Gryffindor's recent talk page sections have received sufficient explanations to allay their concerns. Pinging User:PBS, User:Galobtter, User:Bermicourt. I see User:SnowFire is here already. Dekimasuよ! 21:53, 10 April 2018 (UTC) Nay, hasn't responded at all to the message I left on his talk page; also spoke to him on Talk:Shogi; pretty annoyed about that, and seems rather contrary to admin conduct or honestly even basic editor standards (the same could be said for the original act of move-warring..). I suppose I'd go to AN/ANI (maybe shifting this thread), which seems a more appropriate place to discuss this than RMTR, first - maybe a topic ban from moving pages? Galobtter (pingó mió) 02:25, 11 April 2018 (UTC) I have gone ahead and brought this to WP:ANI as suggested, although I like to stay away from there as much as possible. Dekimasuよ! 08:39, 11 April 2018 (UTC) I wanted to go back and see if I had interacted with Gryffindor on such things in the past. It seems like the closest we came to discussing this was in 2014, when there was discussion on how to disambiguate some Japanese prefectures. Dekimasuよ! 22:04, 10 April 2018 (UTC) I have reverted another of these that was blocked by an empty edit, as requested at Talk:House of Schwarzenberg. Dekimasuよ! 07:28, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

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*@Dekimasu: Here is a list of User:Gryffindor 's edits including page moves (but not deleted pages). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:26, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

As per Gryffindor's talk page, this kind of belief that "House of" is always always wrong would be perfectly fine if he simply filed Requested Moves. Instead he uses the move -> make a nonsense edit on the original title technical trick to make it impossible to revert him and refuses to discuss his moves ever. He also quick-moves the related categories in Wikimedia Commons. Why he uses such tactics I can't begin to explain, but it manages to make what should be a boring titling dispute infuriating via flagrant gaming the system and refusing to explain his actions, and forcing the defenders of the status quo to be the ones to file Requested Moves. Ideally all these moves should be reverted and let Gryffindor file cogent RMs with a case-by-case justification for each move. SnowFire (talk) 20:42, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

I hadn't read the whole talk page of Gryffindor and didn't realize this was a perennial issue. (I did protect Shogi from further undiscussed moves after an edit war, as linked on the talk page, but that doesn't mean much when one of the editors is an administrator.) It's clear Gryffindor has been advised in the past to file move requests for these sorts of pages, and has been warned by other admins against altering redirects to prevent reversions. It looks like everyone has been quite forgiving considering how long this has gone on, and I wouldn't blame anyone for escalating this complaint. Dekimasuよ! 21:33, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Being as charitable as possible, there are previous ANI discussions of Gryffindor’s unilateral moves from at least 2007, 2010, and 2012. See Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive254#Gryffindor out of control (sorry for the section name), Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive648#Unilateral page moving against consensus, and Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive771#A possible problem with undiscussed moves. There are others I’ve chosen not to include here. Given those discussions and the talk page, it’s clear that Gryffindor knows these moves are out of process and has a long-term tendency to proceed anyway. I wonder if others from Gryffindor's recent talk page sections have received sufficient explanations to allay their concerns. Pinging User:PBS, User:Galobtter, User:Bermicourt. I see User:SnowFire is here already. Dekimasuよ! 21:53, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Nay, hasn't responded at all to the message I left on his talk page; also spoke to him on Talk:Shogi; pretty annoyed about that, and seems rather contrary to admin conduct or honestly even basic editor standards (the same could be said for the original act of move-warring..). I suppose I'd go to AN/ANI (maybe shifting this thread), which seems a more appropriate place to discuss this than RMTR, first - maybe a topic ban from moving pages? Galobtter (pingó mió) 02:25, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

I have gone ahead and brought this to WP:ANI as suggested, although I like to stay away from there as much as possible. Dekimasuよ! 08:39, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

I wanted to go back and see if I had interacted with Gryffindor on such things in the past. It seems like the closest we came to discussing this was in 2014, when there was discussion on how to disambiguate some Japanese prefectures. Dekimasuよ! 22:04, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

I have reverted another of these that was blocked by an empty edit, as requested at Talk:House of Schwarzenberg. Dekimasuよ! 07:28, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

I think you are confusing edits from an editor that you disagree with, and activities as a sysop. See this editing guideline WP:BB for further information. Concerning the discussion you mentioned earlier on "House of X", feel free to comment in Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Royalty_and_Nobility#House_of. Gryffindor (talk) 21:44, 11 April 2018 (UTC)