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Ramaksoud2000 22:58, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Glenn Scarpelli

Well, if you check the reference that's being cited for his residence in Sedona, it's in Out (a gay magazine) and specifically names the guy he was in a relationship with at the time. The partner named in the article was the same name you removed from the infobox today, and his name used to be in the body text as well but appears to have been removed from there in 2012 sometime. That said, I don't know whether the name was removed by a vandal with homophobic motivations or by someone with private knowledge that Scarpelli and Belanger broke up sometime after the article was published in 2006, so I wouldn't readd Belanger's name now without a new source — but the existing one is still sufficient for describing and categorizing Scarpelli as being gay. Bearcat (talk) 16:22, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Also just to clarify what happened last night in case there's any confusion, an existing category for Category:LGBT entertainers from the United States was deleted yesterday because it had originally been created by a banned user, but the deleting editor just stripped the old category instead of replacing it with the Category:LGBT people from the United States parent as they should have done, so what I did last night was to go back over their contribution history to readd the more general category to the articles in question.

I can't absolutely guarantee that every article that was in the "entertainers" category actually contained sufficient sourcing to support the category, because I was working with an automated tool with which I was only able to assess whether or not an article had been in Category:LGBT entertainers from the United States and not necessarily whether the category should have been there or not. So it's certainly possible that there may have been a few articles that weren't properly sourced enough that they ever should have been in LGBT categories in the first place — but it wasn't a new category in any case, but merely a functional restoration of categories that the article had already been in.

Accordingly, while I'd certainly be happy to assist if you come across any other cases where the category is problematic, any issues would need to be tracked back to whoever originally added LGBT-related categories in the first place. Bearcat (talk) 16:55, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. I usually look in the body of the article to see if mention of sexuality is made. If it isn't, I would remove the category. If in this case, its in the "notes" and its reliable sourced, that's fine. Thank you for above explaination and yes, if I see other questionable categorization, I would appreciate your imput or others since I am very far from perfect. Cheers! --Malerooster (talk) 17:07, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

No worries. That is actually the right approach to take in many cases — especially because there are a few vandals who like to add people like Justin Bieber and Michael Jackson to LGBT people categories as a form of attack editing. When I come across an article that doesn't have satisfactory sourcing of a person's sexuality, though, if it's not obviously vandal-motivated then I do try to put in at least a quick Google search to see if there are sources out there for it before I make the judgement call to remove — but I have removed those categories from articles quite a few times myself, believe me. In a couple of cases, I've even stripped them from people who are gay but still can't be properly sourced as such — see Talk:John Baird (Canadian politician), for example. Also known as "the case that just wouldn't die"; read the archived talk page too if you want.) Bearcat (talk) 06:42, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Sounds good, will do. --Malerooster (talk) 15:18, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

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Reducing down Damon Matthew Wise to point on autism and disability work and remove irrelevancy and unreferenced work

We are mindful of problems finding details and taking out details not relevant:

For example: "minor roles of elected office and alternates", which includes officerships, for example - local community councils in England and membership of student, youth and candidate party groups in the UK in 1988-1990 and Policy committees, alternate to National Council and local branch positions in Ireland are not listed online and past members and committee do not show once replaced ... so removed election on elections and alternates.

We are streaming down from references in his published biographies (LinkedIn, International Who's Who listing and Facebook profile) looking for reference and links while keeping the issues toned to his works in Autism and Disabilities areas.

We have to be able to be fair balanced and independent, and that means cutting things down - and looking up corroborative sources - this means often getting images of past content of historical value through Wikimedia - thy have been hesitant to let through items in their personal photo albums online to which they exclusively have the rights - we can imagine covers of publications he was publisher and editor for.

We know of webpages that montages a selection of his publications and his historical events in Star Trek Fandom, fundraising and autism disability work - problem is to deconstruct the montage on the page or revert to original jpg, png and gif rather then adobe illustrator - we think that thanks to Dropbox we will have access to source code and archive of that website during the week. While he is giving us access to the images he or he and Karen are owners of, wikimedia seem notnt let them through. Damon Matthew Wise — Preceding unsigned comment added by AspieNo1 (talk • contribs) 04:15, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

ah, ok. Is there a question in there or something I am suppose to respond to? The best way to improve this article, is to find as many reliable sources that make mention of the subject, and then post those links or references on the article's talk page. Good luck. --Malerooster (talk) 12:12, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

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Manning

Hi MR, I see you've several times removed some of the See also links in Chelsea Manning. The point of the list is to give readers a quick overview, at the end of the article, of the material Manning leaked. These are all already linked elsewhere in the article, but for the reader's benefit they're repeated at the end in one list. You've several times removed some of these, but left others, which gives a misleading impression. Can we discuss it here or on the talk page? SlimVirgin 20:21, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

I only tried to remove articles that were already linked in the body of the article. If I missed some or any, it was an oversight not trying to be misleading. No, I don't really want to discuss it here or on the talk page. You have restored it multiple times now and I am not going to remove them or argue for their removal since I don't feel as strongly as you seem to. Regards, --Malerooster (talk) 00:34, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. As I said, the point is just to give readers a quick overview so that they don't have to search through the article to find the links. SlimVirgin 01:07, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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I did leave an edit summary. --Malerooster (talk) 03:34, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes, you did. However, when deleting most of an article, "clean up" doesn't really give any indication as to why you are doing so. - SummerPhD (talk) 03:47, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

fair enough. --Malerooster (talk) 23:12, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Move

Hi ... you indicated here that you were moving material out of the lede ... but I think you forgot to move it into the body somewhere. Thanks. --Epeefleche (talk) 08:30, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

I moved it into the personal life section, but you might have already seen that. --Malerooster (talk) 00:17, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

John from Idegon (talk) 13:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

I responded there, thanks, --Malerooster (talk) 02:04, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Apology

Hi Malerooster. In all the fracas that occured a while ago, I never apologized to you for this edit summary. I wasn't trying to accuse you of vandalism in any way. I should have thought that edit summary out better and I'm sorry if it came across the wrong way. Ishdarian 06:26, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

No apology needed. Everybody but the instigator probably had good faith. --Malerooster (talk) 16:54, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

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Below the topmost template on BLPN is info regarding BLPN. It mentions that the noticeboard is for issues about biographies of living persons. Therefore you cannot have a consenus there since it is only a place to ask for advice. KahnJohn27 (talk) 01:51, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I guess we differ in our understanding of the BLP board then. I don't see where it says anything about NOT forming consensus, since that would seem to go against what the board was designed to do.--Malerooster (talk) 01:56, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

That is also my impression. Two kinds of pork (talk) 23:12, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Poking

Please don't poke the banned editor on his page, in fact don't post there again. Thank you. Bishonen | talk 13:25, 7 January 2014 (UTC).

It was actually serious advise to this user if he decides to return, which I suspect he will. Sorry if you have a problem with that but to bad. --Malerooster (talk) 22:44, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

If you fail to abide by Misplaced Pages:Banning policy#Conduct towards banned editors you yourself can be blocked. Leave him alone. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 05:09, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Serious advice? That reminds me a bit of MM's "thanks" trolling and his innocent protestations afterwards. I notice you returned to the page after MM had made it clear that he took your post as an attack. It's egregious to bait blocked users who're confined to their own page. I disagree with GWH that you "can" be blocked if you continue. If you post on MilesMoney's page again, anything at all other than some obligatory notification, I will block you. Bishonen | talk 12:02, 8 January 2014 (UTC).

Awesome. Does that make you feel better to threaten me? --Malerooster (talk) 12:31, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Apologies

I reread your comments and I just read all the comments quickly and lumped you in with NK when I shouldn't have. Please accept my apologies. VViking_TalkEdits 23:12, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

No problem Viewmont Viking. I am sure I've done the same thing more than once here :) --Malerooster (talk) 23:14, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Jack Chick

Hello, redundant one. If it's not too much trouble, could you tell me exactly where the discussion is that you're talking about in your last edit to Jack Chick? Thanks. (Kendrick7 and I both seem to want to know.) --71.178.50.222 (talk) 23:06, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Sure. See talk:Jack_T._Chick#Hate_or_love_Jack_Chick.2C_he_is_obviously_anti-Catholic. This is the most recent. --Malerooster (talk) 01:24, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

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Cowhen1966

Malerooster, could you please tell me what is unsourced on my article's page? Because I didn't quite see that you've made any changes. Regards!Cowhen1966 (talk) 18:32, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Cowhen1966, I copy edit a lot of bios. Which article is "my article" you are talking about? I assume you are the subject of the bio and not the owner? Thanks, --Malerooster (talk) 03:06, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Ok, you mean Cecil Jay Roberts (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). I removed wife and kids name. The names are trivial as well as unsourced. Maybe say "he is married with 4 children" or the like. --Malerooster (talk) 03:25, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Ok thanksCowhen1966 (talk) 03:41, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

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The other admins/editors/users should learn from you. Their 20+ long paragraphs that you swiftly resolved in 3 sentences. You should be a senior admin.

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Suggestion; Deletions of RS-supported material

When you see a place of birth in the lede, feel free to move it, per our MOS. But if it is accurate and RS-supported, please don't delete RS-supported material. We should not delete material that is non-RS compliant, anymore than we would delete a word that is not spelled correctly. Both actions needlessly degrade the article. I would urge you to simply move it to a more appropriate place below the lede. Tx. --Epeefleche (talk) 03:07, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Epeefleche, per MOSBIO, birth place does not belong in the lede unless it relates to the person's notability, which I expect to be pretty rare. Usually the birthplace is in the info box or family or early life section. --Malerooster (talk) 03:44, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Sorry. My fault. I've not explained myself properly.

I'm suggesting not that you keep it in the lede -- I agree with you as to what MOS says (even though that's IMHO mis-guided, as it is at odds with the weight of encyclopedias, and obviously when and where one is born logically belong together) ... but I am suggesting rather that instead of deleting the RS-supported fact from the bio, you move it, for example to -- as you indicated -- the early life section.

Otherwise that is like saying ... "MOS says we should not have mis-spellings" ... and then deleting all mis-spelled words ... rather than fixing them.

BTW -- with athletes and national politicians, for example, nationality is often especially relevant.--Epeefleche (talk) 04:13, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

You explained ok. --Malerooster (talk) 01:01, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

If you continue to do this I will seek appropriate remedies. Please stop deleting RS-supported appropriate material that may be better placed in the body -- instead move it to what you think is an appropriate place. What you are doing is akin to saying -- there is a typo, which is wrong, so I will just delete the entire word. That is disruptive. Thanks. Epeefleche (talk) 03:43, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Epeefleche, I have actually been trying to do what you suggested but missed that one. In the future, would you mind just moving the birthplace into the body or info box if I miss it or if you see it in the birth place holder? Thanks, --Malerooster (talk) 13:02, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

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Actually, I wrote that based on, "... you are considered by many world class musicians as one of the most complete authority figures in right hand picking education analysis and development." --NeilN 03:53, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Not sure how I missed that. I will revert or copy edit accordingly. Sorry about that. --Malerooster (talk) 15:51, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Daniel Amen

Hello: I am still editing the page, and I am explaining all my edits. I will be finished shortly, but now I have to go back and see what you've done. It's simply much neater if editors would wait their turns. Thanks so much. Yours in Wikidom, GeorgeLouis (talk) 02:03, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

ok.--Malerooster (talk) 14:00, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Dispute resolution

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A drive-by "Thank you"

Just wanted to stop by and say "Thank You" for your efforts in removing the unnecessary wikilink brackets. I wasn't quite sure if it was necessary to wikilink every subject every time it was mentioned, or if it was only required once. Atsme☯ 23:35, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Your'e welcome. I would read WP:OVERLINK. --Malerooster (talk) 23:38, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

ps, I really like the photos you have uploaded to commons, nice stuff :) --Malerooster (talk) 23:46, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Bundchen

I don't edit war, but could you provide a better explanation than "because it is"? Giving birth seems to be to be a notable event in someone's life, not because it is the child's birthdate, but because it is giving birth. 331dot (talk) 17:59, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

I will take it to the talk page. We can discuss it there. Thank you, --Malerooster (talk) 18:00, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Protective edge - human shields

OK... you seem to be an active editor - and it's years since I last contributed, so my new log-in is barred from comments. Maybe you'll be my messenger (I won't shoot you...)

If I look at the main protective edge article on human shields... "tactic encouraged by a Hamas spokesman."

There is a fuller (translated into English) interview with the Hamas Spokesman here... from the authoritative (even if they only concentrate on following arab media) Memri Organization:

www.memritv.org/clip/en/4340.htm

With a video clip like this (eg, "The policy of people confronting the Israeli warplanes with their bare chests... we in Hamas call upon our people to adopt this poilcy"), it would seem clear that there is nothing dubious about the claim that the tactic was indeed encouraged.

...please consider updating the main article (assuming you can)

Chalastra (talk) 18:35, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Chalastra, I usually don't edit Israel/Palestinian articles because they can be a pain and a real battle field, sorry for the pun, nothing funny about what is going on over there. I do more copy edit, manual of style, edits that people really shouldn't have a problem with type edits. I believe after a few days and some edits, you will be able to edit the article as well. Please be aware that you should only make one revision per day, unlike the usuall 3 that are allowed since the topic area is so contentious. Good luck, --Malerooster (talk) 21:58, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Appreciate that you'd rather not get your head bitten off!

Chalastra (talk) 15:30, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Iam actually pretty thick skinned, I rode the NYC subways for years, its more the frustration level of the constant edit warring and endless talk page disagreements. I give our "regular" editors a lot of credit for "working" these articles, that actually end up not too badly written considering how contentious and polarizing they are and can be. Again, keep cool and good luck if you do decide to stay and contribute at that article. --Malerooster (talk) 16:46, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you and a request for help

Hi Malerooster. Thank you for the kind welcome and for reviewing and editing the page about Joe G. N. Garcia. Your neutral input is greatly appreciated.

It's come to my attention that the same user edited another BLP with which I have a conflict of interest: Ann Weaver Hart. He or she has added very similar language (a section called "Controversy") that presents the same issues (violates the neutral point of view tenant, poor sourcing that violates the verifiability tenant, etc.). Would you be willing to review and edit that page as well?

Thanks again. HealthSciChris (talk) 16:57, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Headed there now....--Malerooster (talk) 16:59, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! I truly appreciate your help with both of these. Communicating with you has been such a nice introduction to the Misplaced Pages community. I feel inspired to be more active and contribute to pages where I don't have a conflict of interest. --HealthSciChris (talk) 17:32, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

You are welcome HealthSciChris and I would encourage you to contribute. Please be aware though, I am just one editor, and other editors might disagree with my actions and could revert what I have done. This project, for better or worse, works upon consensus and a lot of give and take. It has been my experience that its always best to get as many editors(unbiased if possible) involved when there is a dispute so cooler heads can prevail. Articles involving politics, contentious subjects, armed conflicts, ect are a pain in the butt, but overall, the project and most fair editors do want to do the "right" thing. "Misplaced Pages might not be the best at what they do, but they are the only ones who do what they do" (Stolen from Bill Graham (promoter) describing the Grateful Dead) Cheers, --Malerooster (talk) 18:06, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

It looks like the new editor readded the material and this pattern could continue. Welcome to the dark side of this project :) Again, the more neutral editors involved the better, and time will tell.....--Malerooster (talk) 19:39, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your diligence and encouragement to participate. Is it appropriate for me to add notes to the articles' talk pages as long as I disclose my COI? Any other way for me to encourage more neutral editors to participate in the discussion? Thanks again. HealthSciChris (talk) 22:17, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, the talkpage is the perfect place to discuss how to improve the article and give your input concerning that, and is encouraged even if you have a disclosed COI. Also, please read about conflict of interest. I would encourage that as well since you obviously know more about the "material" than I do. Misplaced Pages has a TON of policies and guidelines, but at the end of the day, consensus, seems to be really important. When editors have "problems" or concerns with biographies, they can report those concerns to the BLP board. I enjoy working on articles that get reported there and bios brought there usually get good attention from neutral editors who also "patrol" that board. I see that you actually already posted there. If you need administrative help, the ANI board is the place to request intervention. --Malerooster (talk) 00:51, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

HealthSciChris & Malerooster. Everything added is sourced and tons of sources are coming out every day. Vice News, CNN, Daily Beast . . . Joe Skip Garcia and Dr Ann Hart are at the epicenter of National news related to marijuana for vets suffering from PTSD, the suppression of science, and the illegal termination of a female dr who had approval from the FDA for her study. If you have an objection to the cited news then spill it, this is exactly what wikipedia if for. I can bring as many people to back up the edit as need be. We see the IP address that first undid the edit was nothing more than an IP traceable to the University of Arizona. By your name you work at the University of Arizona HealthSciChris. This is a blatant attempt at censorship. Malerooster, I appreciate your point of view. If you tell me what your objections are, I will be more than happy to comply. Remember, be careful what you wish for HealthSciChris as more news is coming out every day regarding the disgusting behavior of Garcia & Hart. Malerooster, also how does one get in touch with "editors" and do you work for Misplaced Pages? Thanks in advance for your hep. All I would ask, if national news if fair game for these pages where these persons are mentioned by name, then please don't let HealthSciChris or any other UofA/Conservative Activist whitewash the facts. Thanks! PathfinderE4

@PathfinderE4, please sign your posts using 4 of the ~ symbols. Its ok being new here, but please assume good faith when talking about other edits and please try not to use words like censorship or describe people's behavior as disgusting behavior, ect. Just as HealthSciChris has a conflict of interest, I could say the same about you since you have made your passion about this subject quite clear. Again, I have ZERO interest in the subject matter, and certainly do NOT work for Misplaced Pages, I am an unpaid volunteer like most folks here, its a hobby and its more about presenting material, especially when it comes to bios, in a certain way. Also, we are now engaged in an edit war which is never a good thing, and can result in editors being blocked. The exception to being blocked is if material is removed which doesn't comply with BLP policies which I think I am doing. I am just one editor. Have you been to the Biographies of living persons notice board? This matter is being discussed there and its the best place for this discussion rather than my talk page, just saying. --Malerooster (talk) 03:54, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

ps, I see that the articles have been reverted by another editor, and please don't say I know him, or he is my friend, ect, its the way it works around here, for better or worse. I SUCK at writing "material", I am a math guy by trade, I do a lot of little shit and stuff that usually isn't to contentious. I really like biographies, they are interesting. I "monitor" the BLP board for BLATANT violations of our BLP policies and give my humble opinion, I add nationality to the lead sentence of bios if it hasn't already been done, crap like that. Now, I am sure there are other folks who could write something that complies with policy and might even satisfy both you and HealthSciChris, that would be the ultimate, but I am certainly not the guy. --Malerooster (talk) 04:06, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

pss, guys, please go to Kimberly Yee. I edited that article per the citations provided. What do you think? --Malerooster (talk) 04:17, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Changing user name

Hello Malerooster. Thank you for the welcome to Misplaced Pages. I been around for a bit, however, and registered the new user name to claim it because I'm planning on requesting my original username (UOJComm) be changed. I know there is a formal process for requesting a change of username so that my previous edits will show up with my new username. I'm just wondering if you have any advice / suggestions on what can make that progress smooth and quick. Thanks again! Allsetcobrajet (talk) 18:58, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Allsetcobrajet, I actually don't, sorry. I would begin the formal process and maybe ask at the help desk or the WP:Teahouse? I am sure they know a ton more than me and seem like helpful, welcoming places. Cheers and good luck. --Malerooster (talk) 20:13, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Greetings Malerooster

Hi MR, Thanks for the welcome note. Actually, I do not plan to stick around, and I plan to end my (tiny, insignificant) ongoing donations to Misplaced Pages based on my experiences with the posts of late. I find the ability to doctor for personal objectives someone's biographical information, under the purported auspices of Wiki guidelines, is too easily manipulated and takes constant vigilant supervision. I'm a little surprised with all the contributors who monitor pages that there is no one monitoring the subjective expressions/repression/omissions of the monitors. There is more work to do on my posts to make them better conform to the guidelines, and I will happily continue to do that. Perhaps other contributors will also tweak this or that. But to shut down the expansion of the information--which happens to be most volatile and inflammatory at this particular moment in history--seems at odds with the mission of Misplaced Pages. How naive of me. There is a larger conversation, perhaps, to be had on the "proper" uses of Misplaced Pages, but at core, I think that truth is never a bad idea. I thought, until recently, that Misplaced Pages's primary mission, primary to all other values, was to present truthful, clear, rational (not hysterical), informative material about the subject matter. I had no idea that truthful information takes a back seat to the desires of vigilant "contributors" who use rules to remove information they do not like, to fulfill their own objectives. I'm pretty disillusioned, M.R.

Cheers mate, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roozee (talk • contribs) 00:10, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

One man's truth, is another man's lie. Seriously, Misplaced Pages is what it is. It certainly has faults and warts, but, err, but, uggh, its hard to defend. The project is sort of like politics to a degree. If you can't beat em, join em, and can be VERY frustrating at times, when you know you are "right" and maybe even have the "truth" on your side, but consensus goes against you. Maybe try to work on some articles that you have zero interest or feelings about and see how that works? Get the hang of things. Or maybe try to make "smaller" changes? I don't know. I try to make edits that I feel nobody in their right mind could ever revert for ANY reason, but guess what, they get reverted. I try to do this for fun and not get to wrap up in it. Cheers and good luck if you do decide to stay. --Malerooster (talk) 00:50, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Re: Paul Conrad

I have no idea what you are attempting to do to the Paul Conrad article, but the material you claimed is unsourced is fully sourced in the article. You are welcome to take your concerns to the talk page. Viriditas (talk) 03:32, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

You've been reverted and asked to take your concerns to the talk page. Is there a good reason I don't see you on the talk page making a case for your edits? I'm guessing that the reason is because you are deliberately stalking me, and attempting to destabilize the article. Viriditas (talk) 03:39, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

I am there now. Also, please stop the personal attacks. --Malerooster (talk) 03:43, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

You're there making bizarre statements that have no basis in reality and continuing to make disruptive edits that violate our policies. This edit pretty much disqualifies you from editing this article. Again, this is the third article you've followed me to in order to disrupt. If this continues, I will bring it to ANI. Your comments and edits show that you have no interest in improving this topic. Therefore, I am formally warning you to stay away from any article I edit from now on. If you persist, I will pursue sanctions. Good day. Viriditas (talk) 05:09, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Please stop with the personal attacks, they are not appreciated. I am trying to help improve the article in question, please use the talk page if you have a problem with any of my edits, thank you, --Malerooster (talk) 15:47, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

The only personal attacks are from you, and you've been repeatedly asked to stop making them. Your "help" is neither appreciated nor needed as there is already a nominator working on the review in good faith in collaboration with me. I don't need to use the tal page to discuss your personal attacks and bad edits. You need to immediately leave this article and take it off of your watchlist. The next warning you receive will be an ANI notice. Good day. Viriditas (talk) 02:50, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

You might take a look at

The George M. Church article talk page, closing discussion, and follow it to the Noticeboard item that has been posted as a result of the irreconcilable difference that has arisen. It is a POV, COI, OR, VER set of issues, relating to a husband-wife faculty team that has generated about 70% of the content of the husband's article here, and about 100% of its tone and momentum. Cheers, comment at the Noticeboard if time permits. Cheers. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 03:30, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Will do. --Malerooster (talk) 15:30, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Precious

welcome birds and bios
Thank you, bird liker, for taking care of biographies of living persons, for restoring, for welcoming new users including yourself, for bird song plans and Why leave? - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:03, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

No problem and thank you. I know that volume is never an indicator of quality, but am I always impressed by folks like yourself who have like 80,000+(?) edits to the project. For all the current, and past, drama about civility, paid editing, sexism, yadda, yadda, the project really is an amazing place. I can't prove it, of course, but I think the ratio is 90:10 "good", its just that "bad" gets more attention and is "funner" or more interesting to watch and be involved with, sort of like rubber necking when one sees a car accident or train wreck. Cheers!! --Malerooster (talk) 14:01, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Good point, 90:10, tell Alan that. The last time he left I asked if I should add him to our sad list. (Link under "Precious and missed") - Every good one gone makes it harder to stay. I took the liberty to stay: red category on my user page, I was tempted to go a few times but don't want to do it because of other people ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:21, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Maybe its some type of "burnout" or "this place has changed" or "good ol days" syndrome. I am in the "teaching" business, late life change, and I can't tell you how many "older" teachers I talk to who are absolutely miserable and hate their students compared to "new" teachers who have so much passion and love for their profession and kids. Who knows? certainly not me :) --Malerooster (talk) 14:26, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

I wanted to learn from him, admiring this and that, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:43, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

I am a math guy, so I really struggle with insightful articulation here. I always enjoy reading other editors posts who so elegantly and thoughtfully say what I am thinking but I find so difficult to write. --Malerooster (talk) 18:30, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 933rd recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:38, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Cool and thank you :) --Malerooster (talk) 14:17, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Two years ago, you were recipient no. 933 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:22, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Three years now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:43, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks again :) --Malerooster (talk) 14:59, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

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Indhu Rubasingham

Hello, I sympathise with your removal of the link/section on the Indhu Rubasingham page. Rightly or wrongly I added it as there is currently a thrice daily edit on both 'her' page and the Tricycle Theatre page concerning an 'unfolding' controversy. By adding the link I hoped that the edits might at least be confined to the theatre's page until such time as the story has more fully evolved. All the edits are from 'anon' editors and all are to a greater or lesser extent imflammatory and partisan in their approach. In the situation I'm not sure whether my or your approach is correct. ps what other kind of rooster is there ? Pincrete (talk) 21:10, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

"Correct" is a very hard thing to figure out in this project :). I usually err on the side of removing "material", since it can always be added once consensus forms, especially if it involves a BLP. I always like to wait and see how these things play out since we are not the news and there isn't a rush, even though some people like to. The more people involved the better, and no problem either way. Yeah, my son thinks my handle is hilarious :) Cheers. --Malerooster (talk) 21:15, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Agree wholly with your overall assessment (and your son!), the purely practical problem is that contentious edits on these two pages are, at the moment, a twice daily event (all from anon IPs, mostly different). Do you happen to know HOW to put a block (for a few weeks, on all anon editors seems appropriate)? Whilst a few 'admin-ny' editors are obviously watching the page, I seem to be the only one actually involved with it at present.Pincrete (talk) 14:01, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

If the IPs don't use the talk page and aren't interesting in forming consensus, and the consensus is for NOT including material, there are multiple "report boards" where syops will eventually jump in. Those boards are 3rr, page protection, ANI. I can take another look and also link to these boards later. I need to fold laundry and deal with life, but will be back later. I wouldn't get too worked up and certainly do not edit war, ie revert more than 3 times in 24 hours, you could get blocked and its not worth it. I find that if folks are "watching", they will jump in and assist. Keep using the talk page and explain your reasoning. Good luck and cheers! --Malerooster (talk) 14:08, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately 'consensus' at the moment is me & thee! Yes some editors have 'jumped in', including yourself to clean up blatant PoV, so I haven't had to over-revert. Any assistance that you or Misplaced Pages can offer will prevent me wasting time on this. 'Dealing with life?', I think I remember what that is! Ta!Pincrete (talk) 15:42, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

MANY THANKS, your info above led me to the right place to request semi-protection of both pages (which I have now done). Hope you got the laundry folded!Pincrete (talk) 17:08, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

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Furnitureland South

I've forgotten where I read it specifically, but the only reason this store is notable is its stauts as largest furniture store in the United States. Every source in existence has some variation of this theme. Once the store achieved the status 20 years ago, I didn't think it was necessry to source it again, but someone could have broken their record. I don't think so. I can't access my sources right now, but two I can access refer to "largest furniture showroom in the world." That's even better but I'm not sure it says the same thing. In any case, it's the largest store in the U.S. where a person can walk in and look at furniture and buy it.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:11, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

ok.--Malerooster (talk) 17:12, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

You don't have any thoughts on what the best thing to do is? I'll look at some of the sources Thursday. I could have yesterday but forgot.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 15:43, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Nothing to strong. I would want to have a citation that says specifally that it is the largest furniture store in the United States. Are we talking by sales volume, showroom floor size, # of employees, ect?? The safest and simplilest is just to say "one of the....", but that is lazy I guess. I have serious real life things that need to be tended too over the next two/three weeks so I am going on a wikibreak :) Cheers, --Malerooster (talk) 21:40, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I'll look tomorrow. I really should have looked for some specifics, but the sources don't usually get that detailed.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:42, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

I found something. Wouldn't you know it. It's an article that criticizes the store. Plus it's eight years old. But criticism is required if it's sourced, and I went ahead and included this criticism in a section devoted to that.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:19, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Historicity of Jesus

Thank you for requesting closure. The basic problem appears to be well-meaning but very bad advice at WP:DRN. The issues were taken to WP:DRN, where the volunteer editor said that the issues involved both content and conduct (which was correct), and said to take the content issues to requests for mediation and the conduct issues to WP:ANI. The latter was well-meaning but bad advice, because, although there are conduct issues, none of the contentious editors have put together diffs or made a specific case. (Also, it isn't, in my opinion, a good case for formal mediation, but that is another question.) There are conduct issues, but they aren't formulated for admin action yet. (I don't think that they will ever be dealt with at WP:ANI anyway. I have the feeling that the case will eventually go to arbitration, but that is my opinion.) Robert McClenon (talk) 15:13, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes, the ANI "discussion" was 99% content related and debate back and forth. IF there are conduct issues, and I am certainly not saying there aren't any, they need to be spelled out clearly with differences included, not an easy task. Cheers and good luck, --Malerooster (talk) 17:47, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

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Talk page revert

Why did you revert my changes on the talk page? I wa restoring another editors comments that were inappropriately removed.Two kinds of pork_Bacon 00:10, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

One, you didn't explain your revision. Two, the other editor removed comments that were he felt were using the talk page as a forum. --Malerooster (talk) 02:11, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you're edit warring to remove that particular comment from the talk page, especially since it relates to a conversation that doesn't seem to be ongoing. Do you think it's more disruptive to leave the comment or to continue to remove it? I'd remind you that "autiously editing or removing another editor's comments is sometimes allowed, but normally you should stop if there is any objection." Dyrnych (talk) 20:31, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

The exact same could be asked of people adding it back. Have you asked them? --Malerooster (talk) 20:35, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

I have not, since the relevant standard applies to removing other editors' comments. Dyrnych (talk) 20:41, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

I actually didn't remove the comment originally, I just reverted somebody who added it back without an edit summary. I would still be curious why people would insist on added something back against policy. --Malerooster (talk) 21:38, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

(ec) I understand that you didn't remove the comment initially, but you've now removed the comment three additional times (counting your first) over the objections of the original commenter and an additional editor (Two_kinds_of_pork). Considering that this comment is at least arguably on topic, that the talk page contains many more egregious examples of off-topic comments, and that " be sure to err on the side of caution" when editing others' off-topic comments, I think it's a bit excessive to keep deleting the comment rather than just letting it go. I'm not terribly invested in the comment remaining on the page, but I don't think that your actions are helpful. Dyrnych (talk) 22:11, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

and the people who want this comment included action's are? Many wrongs don't make a small right. --Malerooster (talk) 22:14, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

You're justifying bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior, but you're also missing the point. You're the person REMOVING the comment. That puts you in a completely different regime than people RESTORING the comment. Dyrnych (talk) 22:19, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Dyrnych, editors have every right to remove comments that are off topic and borderline BLP, period. Like all that is Misplaced Pages, editors will disagree. --Malerooster (talk) 22:40, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Can you stop please? Thanks. - Cwobeel (talk) 22:04, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Why? Since you can't? Its because of editors like yourself, Misplaced Pages is fucked.--Malerooster (talk) 22:08, 16 September 2014 (UTC)ps, stay off my talk page. --Malerooster (talk) 22:10, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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Bob Sassone

It is considered uncivil to delete whole sections of material from a prodded article. I'm asking you not to do that again, because it makes the task of evaluating its deletion extremely difficult. Bearian (talk) 21:57, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Can you please link to where it is considered "uncivil"? I will not edit the article for now. Thank you, --Malerooster (talk) 00:39, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Special greeting...

Haredi Judaism (diff)

What do you mean by "rm per seealso"? -- -- -- 04:28, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

P.S. Please answer on this page only. Not on my talkpage. -- -- -- 04:31, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

I believe the link I removed was already linked in the article, so per wp:seealso, I removed(rm) it. --Malerooster (talk) 04:58, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. -- -- -- 03:08, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Dates on Audie Murphy article

Please stop making changes to the date format on Audie Murphy. Military dates are in use. — Maile (talk) 13:20, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Also, such dates should be followed by a comma, unless followed by other punctuation (such as at the end of a sentence). See WP:Copyedit, section "Common mistakes to fix", subsection "Punctuation", bullet point 2.

Regards

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untitled

As I've never done this please forgive any etiquette errors.

  The piece on homosexuality in ancient Rome contains the Latin word infimalia (sp?). While infamous is an accurate translation the current connotations give the wrong impression. The literal translation is "well known." Infamous today generaly canotes a shadiness that the original would not gain until later . Perhaps a parenthetical clarification, or footnote may be in order. 
  My Latin is rusty but that bit has remain in the decades since I learned it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragonhawk1959 (talk • contribs) 

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Please explain your edit

...to the see also section. Am I to assume that once again, you have not read the article you are editing? Otherwise, how can you possibly explain your edit? Viriditas (talk) 00:02, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Please explain your Bias

You claimed, in the Donald Trump TALK section that Trump's desire to wait until 'we know what the hell is going on' was appealing to the 6th grade mentality of many voters." I think you're confusing that with Barack Obama's mindless mantra "Hope and change.'Will you kindly apologize to the wikipedia community, and the public at large - already well aware of the left wing bias inherent in it's editors, for making such a gratuitously unsavory and contemptible comment about citizens of the United State of America. Thank you. 76.112.63.254 (talk) 14:09, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

huh? I think you are mistaking me for another editor.--Malerooster (talk) 21:19, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

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Drake Bell

Information on the crash can be easily found. Just look at the talk page. Also, if you could, could you add the sources? I can't as apparently, I'm at 3RR already, and according to the editor putting tons of tags on there, adding sources and remove the tag is considered a revert. If you can't, no biggie. I'll do it tomorrow. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 05:19, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

ok. --Malerooster (talk) 04:13, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

It's okay. I did it. Thank you. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 04:15, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Please help

Dear Malerooster! Thank you very much for creating a talk page for me! I am very new here thus I appreciate your help. I am working now on a 6 years old article that was not properly sourced, I am improving it, but I have almost no one who would help me a bit to control what I am doing. I found more than 40 new sources, I built them into the article, and now I am kindly asking you, would you take a glance to my work? https://en.wikipedia.org/Zolt%C3%A1n_Deme and https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Zolt%C3%A1n_Deme My other problem is that this tag "Find sources: "Zoltán Deme" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images" proved to be useless for reaching the sources of the 1960-1980 decades, especially the sources of the past communist countries in East Europe where most of the libraries very poorly digitized. For example "Scholar" gives 1 citation, though just with 10 minutes research I got immediately 20 citations! ] page 65 ] p.2 ] p.23 ] p.1 ] p.289 ] p.5 ] p.2 ] p.353 ] p.35 ] p.1 ] p.46 ] p.75 ] p.63 ] p.84 ] p.64 ] p.1 ] p.48 ] p.317 ] p.196 ] p.101. (Plus I got many items, as "required reading" in the universities, like ] p.1 ] p.1 ] p.48 ] and so on). For other example, Books, Google Books gives 3 items, while this site (and others) show the pictures and data of more than 20 items! ] ] ] This misleads almost everyone, presents the subject non-notable with only one citation and three books, thus, I had to go over this problem and collect printed material. Would you kindly investigate the refreshed article, is my work now sufficient? I saw your contributions and you seem to me an expert of biographic works with erudition, would you please help me a little bit? If you would have any advice, any proposal, any suggestion please let me know. Sincerely yours, Norbert (a Hungarian). 89.133.187.29 (talk) 20:42, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi 89.133.187.29/Norbert, I am not sure that I can help since I don't do a lot of wok with establishing notability of subjects of biographies. I would listen to the advice given at the article for deletion page. Good luck, --Malerooster (talk) 03:25, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your reply and for your time! Be sure please, that I understand you and fully agree. Have nice days, nice weekend, and good health. Yours sincerely, Norbert. 89.133.187.29 (talk) 09:59, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Kodak Black

Just wondering why you removed his birthplace from the lead of the article? Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:53, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

It shouldn't go in the lede unless its the reason for the person's notability. --Malerooster (talk) 23:28, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Your argument is foolish, your basically saying it shouldn't be there unless their birthday is the reason they're notable, that doesn't make any sense at all. Xboxmanwar (talk) 23:35, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Not birthday but place of birth and its only for the first sentence/lede. Please see WP:BLPLEAD. --Malerooster (talk) 23:38, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Does it really make a difference if you remove the location that thousands of articles already have? I'd suguest just leaving it like that, it doesn't do anything, never mind that guideline, the removal of the location isn't necessary. Xboxmanwar (talk) 23:43, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

What a rude way to write to another editor. Malerooster is correct, per MOS:BIRTHPLACE. Good eye and thanks Malerooster, I should have known when I wrote that article. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:44, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Yes it does. The MOS is there for a reason so articles can be improved and maintain consistency, we don't just ignore them. No worries @Magnolia, and thanks for linking to the correct MOS, cheers. --Malerooster (talk) 23:48, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

I wasn't being rude Magnolia677, I was expressing my concern over it and MOS:BIRTHPLACE says you should, doesn't say you need, which means it isn't necessary, as for Malerooster, it still doesn't change anything, the article was already consistent as it already was, didn't need to be removed. Xboxmanwar (talk) 00:00, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

August 2016

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Talk:Donald Trump, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. MorbidEntree - _{(Talk to me! (っ◕‿◕)っ♥)}(please reply using {{ping}}) 14:20, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

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Dennis L. Montgomery

I notice that your edit of Dennis L. Montgomery did not have an WP:Edit summary. Can you please explain why you made that change? —BarrelProof (talk) 00:43, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Oops. Never mind. —BarrelProof (talk) 00:44, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

1RR

I'm not sure how you missed the prominent edit notice on Donald Trump, but I suggest you self-revert. The article is subject to 1RR.- MrX 01:48, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

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Thank you NeilN, I just did. --Malerooster (talk) 16:33, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

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Greetings!

My comments, which referred very carefully and specifically to points in the article, were all clearly and impeccably sourced, and the word “alleged” (i.e. by the former president of Mexico) was clearly stated. Ergo, the squeals of BLP violation were just crying wolf. I’ll let your meddling with my comments stand, as any more back and forth would only serve as a distraction from discussing the merits or otherwise of the article to which I linked. Also of course, several years' observation of users like you at political talk pages has taught me that tangling with them there rarely ends well for either party. Writegeist (talk) 23:16, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Ah, no, your words were NOT impeccably sourced. They were a summation in your own words of the article, and its not necessary to post them on the talk page. People can click the link and read the article. What I love about this project is there is a history to go back and look at. Users like me? Classic deflection of your own agenda. --Malerooster (talk) 23:20, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Lol! Writegeist (talk) 23:38, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

I am glad I made you laugh :)...cheers!--Malerooster (talk) 23:46, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Didn't you JUST get a warning for edit warring?

And now you're doing the same thing, over the same material, over at Trump World Tower.Volunteer Marek (talk) 02:13, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

See the talk page there. --Malerooster (talk) 02:15, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

are you Trump supporter? by --Sunuraju (talk) 13:26, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Mike Pence - See also

Thank you for removing the section See also. It really didn't make sense. --Gciriani (talk) 23:24, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome. --Malerooster (talk) 23:29, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Melania Trump - Target of Smear campaign

Why did you delete this? Thanks! WSDavitt (talk) 01:09, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

The reference to the Melania Trump smear campaign is

Where does it say "smear campaign"? Maybe I missed it. --Malerooster (talk) 02:43, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

1. . Vanity Fair http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/03/heidi-cruz-donald-trump-melania. {{cite news}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

Please change your attitude

Malerooster, please moderate your language and your attitude at the article and talk page for Donald Trump. You have been guilty of abusive edit summaries , dismissal of edits under discussion as "horseshit" without any actual discussion or justification, and calling other editors "idiots". This has got to stop. --MelanieN (talk) 20:22, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

You are right. I will. Thank you.--Malerooster (talk) 20:25, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

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I don't want to pile on, but I will add my voice to that of others urging you to tone it down. Habitual uncivil commentary or edit summaries can be seen as disruptive. Thanks in advance. Best regards... -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:47, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

I will, thank you, --Malerooster (talk) 21:12, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

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Hillary edit summary

Please don't leave edit summaries like that. Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:42, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

yeah, I was just saying two wrongs don't make a right, not needed. --Malerooster (talk) 17:09, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

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If you like birds

Please see this article. --2600:8805:A001:C900:38D9:8760:3AF7:F734 (talk) 16:17, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Frenchie Vandal

Hi there, thought you might like to take a look at this SPI I tried to launch last week about an IP vandal you seem to have encountered a few times: Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/62.49.119.18/Archive. It's clearly the same person, with two different overlapping MOs. I collected as many of the IPs as I could to try to bring to Admin attention that this user needs more than unique 31 hour blocks with each "new" account, as longer blocks only come up if by happenstance multiple complaints had been lodged on same IP. Feel free to add to this list or use it however you like, as you had already given the welcome/warning to many of these IPs' talk pages, and probably know how to recognize their work. JesseRafe (talk) 19:08, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you JesseRafe. --Malerooster (talk) 14:40, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

I am wondering

why you just unlinked School voucher? It seems like a pretty standard link to me, helps define something that readers might not understand. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 05:08, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi Carptrash, I believe it is already linked in the article above it, so no need to link it again. --Malerooster (talk) 05:11, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Good enough for me. Carptrash (talk) 05:37, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Donald Trump

Hello, Malerooster! Could you please remove your personal attack at the Donald Trump talk page? Yes, yes I know - you didn't QUITE call him a straight-out liar, you just suggested he might be. But that kind of talk is inflammatory and likely to lead to escalation; it's inappropriate for a Misplaced Pages talk page. Thanks. --MelanieN (talk) 02:39, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! --MelanieN (talk) 05:15, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

No problem.--Malerooster (talk) 14:06, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Tom Brady

Per WP:BRD, once you are reverted, you must discuss before re-reverting. The discussion is ongoing. You don't get to decide "Well, that statement is relatively new, I'll assume that I can decide how old is old enough and force my own opinion on the article". The statement that is present is the result of a *LONG* previous discussion. Your opinion by itself does not suffice to overturn that. The RFC might well, but that is looking like it is trending to keep it. Regards, Tarl N. (discuss) 20:28, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Talk about forcing one's opinion. You are really showing signs of ownership of this article, too bad. We should default to the most stable version of the article and then see if there is consensus for adding material, not the other way around. --Malerooster (talk) 20:34, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

There was a discussion with a consensus. This was the result of a long series of edit wars over adding and removing that. There is an RFC in progress to revisit that discussion. I don't see *anything* in WP:BRD which says "The change has only been present for 1742 hours, so I'm feelfree to revert regardless of a previous discussion". All I can say is an RFC is in progress, you don't have the authority to arbitrarily change the article while it is in progress. Tarl N. (discuss) 20:37, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

But you do? Save me your bullshit. --Malerooster (talk) 20:38, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

No. I'm preserving status quo ante while the RFC is in progress. My personal opinion is that Deflategate is bullshit, but every time it was removed from the lede, it was added back in, often in a form that violated WP:BLP. At least the statement in place right now does not violate BLP standards. I do want to preserve that aspect. Tarl N. (discuss) 20:50, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

No, the status quo ante was NOT having it in the lede. Your personal opinion is of no interest to me and keeping it in the lede because it keeps getting readded in an improper fasion is weak.--Malerooster (talk) 21:12, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Ethnicity! Nationality

Hello,

I replied to your comment on Talk:Adrian Lamo. I'm a dual national. Being Colombian is consequently as relevant as being American. If you have one, you have to have the other, unless you're saying one country is less relevant. Per WP:BLP & WP:SELFPUB, this should serve as sufficient background to establish an uncontroversial fact that's not a conflict of interest.

Cheers & wikilove,

—Adrian Lamo ·· 01:29, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

I am not sure if that's sufficient or a proper reliable source for this in the lede. --Malerooster (talk) 02:50, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

This and this should help establish it, as the case and my related actions have been covered heavily in certain Colombian media. In a previously-linked article, it ledes: "Esta es la historia de Adrián Lamo, el pirata cibernético de origen colombiano que reveló a las autoridades estadounidenses quién filtró la información a WikiLeaks." (emphasis mine.) Semana is a prominent magazine, and according to Wikipdia itself:

>> "Semana, which has won several international prizes and has more than a million readers, is considered required reading for Colombia's political, economic, and cultural elite. “In the history of journalism in Colombia,” reads a profile of López by a Colombian writer, “there is a 'before Semana' and an 'after Semana,' because, in effect, before May 1982 such a thing didn't exist....the press in this country was an extensionof the political parties.” The same profile notes that “at least 80 percent of all the political scandals that have occurred in Colombia in the last 30 years have been exposed by Semana.” The Washington Post, The New York Times and The Economist have all called Semana the best magazine in Latin America. <<

I believe that qualifies it as a reliable source, and if its journalistic fact-checking finds that I am also Colombian, the ball is now in your court to ascertao otherwise, rightly or wrongly, rather than vice-versa.

v/r,

— Adrian Lamo ·· 22:09, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

I am going on a break. --Malerooster (talk) 01:17, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

March 2017

Malerooster, please take a look at the discussion at Talk:Sean Hannity#Lead section. You have accused other editors of "agenda pushing" five different times in that one thread (Snoogans three times and Volunteer Marek twice). You also did it in other discussions such as the RFC survey. You know better than this. VM properly described your behavior as personal attacks, i.e., "discussing other editors". As you know, I have called you out on this before - looks like in November ("Please change your attitude") and January ("Talk:Donald Trump") at this talk page. You have got to get the message and cut it out. Please limit your comments from now on to the merits of the issue at hand. --MelanieN (talk) 21:30, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

A spade is still a spade and these type of editors should be called out. --Malerooster (talk) 00:55, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Never mind, it looks like he is being called out. --Malerooster (talk) 01:48, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Federalism

It would help if you explained your reverts at Federalism in more detail. Also, you're currently at your third revert for today. I presume you are aware of WP:3RR. clpo13_(talk) 16:55, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Clpo13, I answered at the talk page. What do you think of this newly added material? The article is in very poor shape, imho, but thats an aside. Thank you for the 3rr warning as well, I will not edit for now.--Malerooster (talk) 16:59, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

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Hi Alex Persan, Sure I'll take a look this weekend. In the meantime, please read WP:MOSBIO and WP:BDD. Cheers, --Malerooster (talk) 11:59, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

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Suicide of Katelyn Davis

What part of 'See also' did you refer to when you deleted the section saying 'rm per seealso'? Thanks. Optimale 14:07, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi Optimale, just the part about editorial judgement. It seems like this see also could become a list, which should probably be avoided. I am in no way married to my edit, so if you want to revert, I wouldn't mind or revert it again. Maybe include a brief mention of why they are related. Would these entries be included in the body of the article if the article was well written? Not sure. Cheers! --Malerooster (talk) 14:19, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Welcoming IPs

Hi Malerooster. Hope you're having a good week. Just a friendly suggestion, if I may. I know there are differences of opinion in the community about where to draw the line on posting welcome templates, but I wonder if you'd consider not rolling out the welcome mat for IP-hopping long-term vandals who are here only to disrupt the project and whose edits all warrant revision deletion. The wording of the template you used thanked the user for their contributions and says you hope they'll decide to stay. I know it's boilerplate, but really—there are some people who should receive no thanks and who absolutely should not stay. Rivertorch_WATER 03:06, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi Rivertorch, sure, I hear you. I usually add the template just so I can "geotrack" them more easily and then they also have a talkpage. Yes, we don't want to "welcome" and hope trolls stay :). Full disclosure, I am a HUGE fan of constructive IPs and do think they sometimes get the short end of the stick. If I had my way, I would probably prefer to be an IP but do understand the realities of how they are treated. Thank you for your note and I will not add the template to IPs if I see they have been unhelpful. Cheers! --Malerooster (talk) 11:30, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your very constructive reply. I hasten to add that it's all about the behavior and not about whether they have an account: I also disapprove of welcoming unconstructive registered users, and I love constructive IP editors. Because IPs may not immediately realize they're at a disadvantage here, some years ago I rewrote Template:AnonymousWelcome, which remains an alternative to some of the more commonly used welcome templates. Rivertorch_WATER 12:57, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks for your copy edit help at the new article I wrote, The Plot to Hack America ! Sagecandor (talk) 15:56, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

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C/e or CE or ce . . .

Hello, MR! I hope all in going well! I noticed you are using ce for a lot of your edits. If this is supposed to be shorthand for "copy editing," I think the preferred abbreviation is c/e; but it would be really nice if you would write something like "Copy editing, mostly fixing verb tenses but also some misspellings." The big problem is that many of your recent edits have been good ones, but they are definitely not copy edits; they are more substantive, such as removing the places of birth of some people from the lead paragraph. I agree that most often the birthplaces don't belong there, but it would be better for my poor old, broken-down constitution if you would type something like "Minor fact that doesn't belong in the lead." It would be helpful to spell out what you are doing more than just "Copy edit." Thanks. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 01:06, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion, fair enough. --Malerooster (talk) 01:08, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

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Tino Sanandaji

I saw you removed the mentioning of Kurdish o Tino Sanandaji. I think this discussion is interesting as he is from Kurdistan, which wants independence from Iran, and that he himself identifies as a Kurd and nothing else. He has however lived roughly 20 years in Sweden and 10 years in USA. Can you take a look at the current version I wrote?

Also it would be interestig to hear your inout as a third party on the discussiob on the talk pages around templates. I am not getting along with the other user there. --Immunmotbluescreen (talk) 16:48, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

I'll check it out. --Malerooster (talk) 22:01, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Bah Humbug Barnstar

For this :-) --NeilN 22:18, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

lol, fair enough :) --Malerooster (talk) 22:25, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Lost in all the noise

I reverted my mistake and take full responsibility for my actions as I noted in the AN/I. Thank you for your advice and I will not make that mistake again. C. W. Gilmore (talk) 08:39, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

No problem, you're welcome, --Malerooster (talk) 17:33, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks for the template and RVV, when I was editing per WP:MOSBIO. --Malerooster (talk) 23:45, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I misread the pattern in your edits. I was on my way back here to revert myself. —Dennis Bratland (talk) 23:49, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Ok, I thought it was curious since you have been on the project forever and have a bazillion edits ;).--Malerooster (talk) 23:51, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

WP:TALK violations censoring reports of child sex trafficking convictions at Talk:Donald Trump

I have asked at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement that you be sanctioned for repeated attempts to censor reports of the child sex trafficking convictions of two of Donald Trump's campaign chairs at Talk:Donald Trump. 185.13.106.114 (talk) 17:02, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Removed as IPs can't file AE requests. --NeilN 17:21, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you User:NeilN. I wasn't going to remove the discussion again since another regular editor reverted me again and the "material" was confirmed today. --Malerooster (talk) 17:34, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

I reverted because I believe it was a good faith discussion about content. I understand removing it since it didn't have sources, but I have since added sources to the talk page.- MrX 🖋 19:06, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Fair enough and no worries. --Malerooster (talk) 21:25, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Template

Please stop with your disruptive edits, Not every closure needs a "nac" template ..... Please focus your time and energy on better things like the encyclopedia and its articles, Thank you. –Davey2010 00:15, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Maybe take your own advice? --Malerooster (talk) 00:19, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

I'm not the one warring over it, No worries you just focus on a poxy template and leave the rest of the site to us adults!. –Davey2010 00:22, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Will do. --Malerooster (talk) 00:23, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Political positions of Bernie Sanders

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Britt McHenry

Thank you for your updates on the McHenry page. Much appreciated. Andersongrip (talk) 20:16, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

No problem, you are welcome. --Malerooster (talk) 01:10, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Edit warring at Talk:Donald Trump

Since I was pinged to this (now removed) thread, I will just note that WP:CONSENSUS applies to talk pages as well as to articles. It looks to me as if the material you keep removing has been restored by three different people. That suggests that your belief it should be removed is against consensus. --MelanieN (talk) 21:41, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Well, and how about that: no sooner did I post this than another user showed up to delete the material you object to. So consensus is no longer clear. However, I would suggest that you limit your removals to the four you have already done. --MelanieN (talk) 22:03, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

MelanieN—cannot this be said without name-calling? We are called upon to express ourselves. But that means verbally. Bus stop (talk) 22:10, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Good point. User:Mandruss, you are hereby cautioned not to insult other editors - in edit summaries or anyplace else. --MelanieN (talk) 22:27, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

@MelanieN: - I'm surprised you bought into that. If one reads what I said, I didn't insult anybody but rather complimented multiple editors (if being called a non-idiot can be called a compliment). If Bus stop chooses to read something into my words that wasn't there, that's Bus stop's problem. ―Mandruss ☎ 22:30, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Come off it, User:Mandruss. That is weasel talk. When you say to someone that the view opposite to theirs is held by "non-idiots", it's pretty clear what you are saying. Just don't mention "idiots" in your edit summaries, OK? I can't believe a long-time editor like you even needs to be told this. --MelanieN (talk) 22:35, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

@MelanieN: Nope. It wouldn't be weasel talk to do that, it would be downright dishonest. I'm not that guy, and I'm not wearing your criticism. I say what I mean and I mean exactly what I say and no more. If I wanted to call someone an idiot, which I never will, I would call them an idiot. I'm sorry if other editors behave differently, so much so that one automatically sees such sneakiness in one's words. ―Mandruss ☎ 22:44, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't express myself clearly. I often do not. Let me try that again. Calling someone a "blowhard" constitutes name-calling. Do you disagree, MelanieN? Bus stop (talk) 22:33, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Could be. But name-calling is not clear BLP vio, especially when relevant to the discussion, so you can't remove it without talk page consensus. For some reason people who want to remove that don't actually want to seek that consensus. Maybe because they know they won't get it? ―Mandruss ☎ 22:37, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Mandruss—I think you were simply endorsing an administrator's findings. I linked to your revert of my edit because it was convenient to do so and doing so conveniently displayed my edit as well. Now, I have to go to the convenience store. Bus stop (talk) 22:38, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

If you want to pursue this issue further, please take it to the article talk page where more editors can weigh in. ―Mandruss ☎ 22:40, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Mandruss—we are a quintessentially verbal project. It is not that we are not capable of saying bad things about living people on article Talk pages so much as we should use verbal means, not cartoon means. The single word "blowhard" with a line through it is tantamount to non-verbal imagery. Bus stop (talk) 22:46, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Incorrect (non-admin closure) tag on ANI

Lourdes is an admin; your {{nac}} tag on her recent ANI close is incorrect. nwatra (talk) 21:37, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi nwatra, thanks for pointing that out. I removed the nac tag from the ANI close. Its weird, when I hoover over Lourdes' name, it doesn't show that she is an admin(yet). Maybe it takes a few weeks for your mop to arrive :), cheers, --Malerooster (talk) 22:47, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) See Special:PermaLink/827692653 and Special:UserRights/Lourdes. It appears the current databases do not currently have Lourdes as an admin. There seems to be considerable confusion on the subject. Tarl N. (discuss) 00:01, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

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