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| Okay, I see what you have done. I am sorry if I got snotty. | Okay, I see what you have done. I am sorry if I got snotty. | ||
| --] 22:27, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC) | --] 22:27, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC) | ||
| == ] Re-edits, dispute between Rmhermen and Mikerussell == | |||
| After some research on my part about the status of adminstrators in Misplaced Pages, I have decided to make several necessary changes to Rmherman's edit. If the dispute goes further, we will have to ask for mediation, or at least I will have to. | |||
| 1.''A '''librarian''' is a type of professional who works in a ].'' | |||
| What does that mean? A prostitute who cops Johns in abandoned study carrels? A very poor way to start the article, imprecise and logically circular. Would you start a article about ] like- ''A lawyer is a type of professional that works in a courthouse.'' | |||
| 2.''Examples of library information sources:'' | |||
| *''Gramophone records and compact discs'' | |||
| *''Photographs and videotape'' | |||
| *''Newspapers, magazines and scientific journals'' | |||
| *''Computer databases'' | |||
| *''Online resources'''' | |||
| Is not needed, and lacks informative impact, the article is not written for people who have never been in a library, or have been under a rock or on Mars. Too trivial for inclusion. People understand media formats and what can be found in libraries. | |||
| 3.''Librarians can be found in '''many areas'''. ], public schools, and ] are the most common employers. Librarians can also be found in businesses, government departments, hospitals, law firms, museums, and '''other large organizations where academic research is performed or where large quantities of information are stored'''.'' | |||
| This is a impercise. What does 'many areas' mean? Compared to the basic classifications listed in my edit, it is unhelpful for readers of Misplaced Pages. Does Rmhermen know what is the basic classification for libraries and librarians? I ask him to provide his source of knowledge on the subject and/or ask that other librarians peer review this dispute. Although you took my edit and sent some of it over to ], it is not the same information. It makes no sense why the basic breakdown should be left out in favor of a passage which readers could guess at anyway. Misplaced Pages should provide more than just superficial information on a topic. | |||
| 4. ''Library technicians (also called assistant librarians, library assistants, or library paraprofessionals) who most often lack the Master's degree, but may perform duties such as searching for items in the library catalog or basic cataloging.'' | |||
| Library Technicians are not the same thing as library assistants or assistant librarians. Library Technicians requires a specialized training, often a two-year college diploma. Assistant librarians, are librarians who work in a relational capacity to full librarians, or belong to a certain occupational category within the library's overall structure. Library assistants are usually trained in-house and only need a undergraduate degree to get hired and commence on the job training. You mislead people about each occupational category unnecessarily. | |||
| 5. The inclusion of Headings makes editing and reading easier for Wiki users, why Rmhermen withdrew them is unwarrented and really lacks commonsense. The article reader benefits from the ability to hyperlink in and out of contents on the same page. | |||
| 6. Added material to make it less focused on American concerns, such as the Censorship and Patriot Act section. Misplaced Pages is world-wide and not just for Americans. | |||
| I will defend my choices in the future, and have taken some of Rmhermen's edits to heart. Nevertheless, I hardly think an adminstrator has the editorial perogative to 'dumb-down' an article because he feels certain information is 'not needed'. That stance is contrary to the responsibilty and privilege of being an administrator. | |||
| --] 07:33, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 07:33, 11 December 2004
Why would you revert my page back to the old page by Noisy?
- I am trying to integrate parts of it into the article. However much of it is not necessary or should be in another article like library. See what I have done now. Rmhermen 21:11, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)
Are you a librarian? Your edit is not very good. Who does someone go to to complain about your judgement and editorial merits, or lack of them? I thought this was suppose to be a USER supported service? By what criteria do apply your editorial judgement? I think important information in the Librarian category is missing. A person who is interested in BECOMING a librarian may want to know about the settings of librarians. Over all, a horrible edit. --Mikerussell 21:36, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- That material should go in the library article where in fact it already is. This article is to be a general article with world-wide applicability. Rmhermen 21:52, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)
Okay, I see what you have done. I am sorry if I got snotty. --Mikerussell 22:27, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Librarian Re-edits, dispute between Rmhermen and Mikerussell
After some research on my part about the status of adminstrators in Misplaced Pages, I have decided to make several necessary changes to Rmherman's edit. If the dispute goes further, we will have to ask for mediation, or at least I will have to.
1.A librarian is a type of professional who works in a library.
What does that mean? A prostitute who cops Johns in abandoned study carrels? A very poor way to start the article, imprecise and logically circular. Would you start a article about Lawyer like- A lawyer is a type of professional that works in a courthouse.
2.Examples of library information sources:
- Gramophone records and compact discs
- Photographs and videotape
- Newspapers, magazines and scientific journals
- Computer databases
- Online resources''
Is not needed, and lacks informative impact, the article is not written for people who have never been in a library, or have been under a rock or on Mars. Too trivial for inclusion. People understand media formats and what can be found in libraries.
3.Librarians can be found in many areas. Public libraries, public schools, and university libraries are the most common employers. Librarians can also be found in businesses, government departments, hospitals, law firms, museums, and other large organizations where academic research is performed or where large quantities of information are stored.
This is a impercise. What does 'many areas' mean? Compared to the basic classifications listed in my edit, it is unhelpful for readers of Misplaced Pages. Does Rmhermen know what is the basic classification for libraries and librarians? I ask him to provide his source of knowledge on the subject and/or ask that other librarians peer review this dispute. Although you took my edit and sent some of it over to Library, it is not the same information. It makes no sense why the basic breakdown should be left out in favor of a passage which readers could guess at anyway. Misplaced Pages should provide more than just superficial information on a topic.
4. Library technicians (also called assistant librarians, library assistants, or library paraprofessionals) who most often lack the Master's degree, but may perform duties such as searching for items in the library catalog or basic cataloging.
Library Technicians are not the same thing as library assistants or assistant librarians. Library Technicians requires a specialized training, often a two-year college diploma. Assistant librarians, are librarians who work in a relational capacity to full librarians, or belong to a certain occupational category within the library's overall structure. Library assistants are usually trained in-house and only need a undergraduate degree to get hired and commence on the job training. You mislead people about each occupational category unnecessarily.
5. The inclusion of Headings makes editing and reading easier for Wiki users, why Rmhermen withdrew them is unwarrented and really lacks commonsense. The article reader benefits from the ability to hyperlink in and out of contents on the same page.
6. Added material to make it less focused on American concerns, such as the Censorship and Patriot Act section. Misplaced Pages is world-wide and not just for Americans.
I will defend my choices in the future, and have taken some of Rmhermen's edits to heart. Nevertheless, I hardly think an adminstrator has the editorial perogative to 'dumb-down' an article because he feels certain information is 'not needed'. That stance is contrary to the responsibilty and privilege of being an administrator.
--Mikerussell 07:33, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)