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::: I’m checking it right now (tagged for ref. already) and will work on the article in the next hours/day. Your version was weak in my opinion with information omitted. I’ll try to improve the article best to my knowledge and abilities. ] (]) 09:37, 24 June 2018 (UTC) ::: I’m checking it right now (tagged for ref. already) and will work on the article in the next hours/day. Your version was weak in my opinion with information omitted. I’ll try to improve the article best to my knowledge and abilities. ] (]) 09:37, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
:::: {{ping|GizzyCatBella} - I am taking this to AE - unless you self-revert now - this is a serious misrepresentation of sources - there is a problem with each and every sentence here. You've also removed bona-fida academic sources that actually cover this incident. Again - yes/no - are will you self-revert this?] (]) 10:08, 24 June 2018 (UTC) :::: {{ping|GizzyCatBella} - I am taking this to AE - unless you self-revert now - this is a serious misrepresentation of sources - there is a problem with each and every sentence here. You've also removed bona-fida academic sources that actually cover this incident. Again - yes/no - are will you self-revert this?] (]) 10:08, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
::::: Why this hostile attitude and threats??? Please stop. Will you please let me work on it? I started already and I would really welcome your input and help. Can you work with me to improve the article please? ] (]) 10:28, 24 June 2018 (UTC) ::::: Why this hostile attitude and threats??? Please stop. Will you please let me work on it? I started already and I would really welcome your input and help. Can you work with me to improve the article please? ] (]) 10:28, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
::::::: {{ping|Icewhiz} Please check the article now and improve if necessary. ] (]) 10:54, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
*Upon the ] in 1939, the local administration was abolished by the Soviet ] and replaced with Jewish communists who declared Soviet allegiance. - (''first sentence is correct (right?) Checking source and perhaps will find even better, I’ll go sentence by sentence. Please help as we go along ok? Thanks'')<ref name=“webcache” /> Ethnic Polish families were being rounded up by newly formed Jewish militia,<ref name=“webcache” /> and deported to ]. Some Poles went into prolonged hiding from the enemy. The Soviet terror lingered until the Nazi ] of 1941,<ref name="webcache">], , ''Polin'': Studies in Polish Jewry, Volume 16 (2003). ''Referenced citations:'' #58. ''The Partisan: From the Valley of Death to Mount Zion'' by ], and #59. ''The Lesser of Two Evils: Eastern European Jewry under Soviet Rule, 1939-1941'' by Dov Levin.</ref> when the NKVD collaborators fled, along with the ]. A German ] unit under ] arriving in Stawiski on July 4–5, 1941, massacred 700 local Jews in nearby Płaszczatka Forest.<ref name="Shared history">Simon-Dubnow, from Institut für Jüdische Geschichte und Kultur; in Elazar Barkan, Elizabeth A. Cole, Kai Struve Leipziger Universitätsverlag, 2007. {{ISBN|3-86583-240-7}}. ''See chapter:'' "Spontaneous Reactions and German Instigations" By A. Zbikowski, pp. 335 - 338 - 344 - 347.</ref><ref name="asura"> ''In Search of the Heroes'', Grace, Richardson, TX</ref> The execution place is marked by the memorial stone.{{Verify source}} Some Poles, who emerged from their forest hideaways, including prisoners released by the Germans from the ] prisons,<ref name="webcache" /> were led to acts of revenge-killing in German presence (approximately 6 suspects, around July 5–7). The ]s created a Jewish ghetto in Stawiski, then transferred all its occupants to a much larger ], which was annihilated in November 1942.<ref name="V-S"> 2010, ]; ] (Muzeum Historii Żydów Polskich), ]</ref> The fate of the Jews of Stawiski was similar to what occurred in neighboring towns of Jedwabne and Radziłów. The atrocity in Jedwabne took place on July 10, 1941 and the massacre in Stawiski only a day earlier thus linking perpetrators and victims.<ref name="P/M">{{cite book | url=https://books.google.ca/books?id=AfeGB5yz0ooC&lpg=PP1&dq=%22Poles%20and%20Jews%3A%20How%20Deep%20the%20Guilt%3F%22%20Adam%20Michnik%2C%20New%20York%20Times&pg=RA1-PA62#v=snippet&q=Stawiski%20outskirts&f=false | title=The Neighbors Respond: The Controversy over the Jedwabne Massacre | publisher=Princeton University Press | work=The initial reporting | date=2009 | accessdate=16 April 2015 | author=Antony Polonsky, Joanna B. Michlic | pages=62 | quote=Poles and Jews: How Deep the Guilt? by Adam Michnik, New York Times, March 17, 2001 (quoted). | isbn=1400825814}}</ref>

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  • Morris S. Whitcup (10 November 2015). "Misplaced Pages Continues the Crime and the Silence of Polish Participation in the Murder of Jews". The Jewish Press. Retrieved 10 November 2015. It is an egregious example of denial and minimization of the Polish involvement in the killings and blaming the Jews for causing their own deaths through collaboration with the Soviets. ... I personally had tried on at least three occasions to correct the seriously flawed Stawiski article by referencing Jan T. Gross and the accounts in the Stawiski Memorial Book (Bikont's translated book had yet to be published). On each occasion, the author of the Misplaced Pages Stawiski article immediately wiped out my edits.

17 February 2014

I added some citation tags to the article. Reference number 4 is a blog. Can it be considered a credible source? Furthermore, the conclusions drawn from this blog entry are only loosely based on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.177.105.203 (talk) 10:27, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

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I've reverted this edit, which restored the 27 August 2017 version, restoring the stable version from March 2018. This version is very poorly sourced, and misrepresents the sources it uses - many of which do not cover Stawiski and/or do not contain the stmts attributed to them. Please discuss here.Icewhiz (talk) 09:18, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

What was poorly sourced? Could you elaborate?GizzyCatBella (talk) 09:21, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
@GizzyCatBella: I strongly suggest you self revert - you've restored several sources that do not refer to the town (e.g. Rossino - who simply doesn't say what you are restoring), and have introduced highly defamatory and counter-factual information in Misplaced Pages's voice. The stable version is from 19 March. I will be taking this to AE if you don’t self revert.Icewhiz (talk) 09:30, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
I’m checking it right now (tagged for ref. already) and will work on the article in the next hours/day. Your version was weak in my opinion with information omitted. I’ll try to improve the article best to my knowledge and abilities. GizzyCatBella (talk) 09:37, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
{{ping|GizzyCatBella} - I am taking this to AE - unless you self-revert now - this is a serious misrepresentation of sources - there is a problem with each and every sentence here. You've also removed bona-fida academic sources that actually cover this incident. Again - yes/no - are will you self-revert this?Icewhiz (talk) 10:08, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Why this hostile attitude and threats??? Please stop. Will you please let me work on it? I started already and I would really welcome your input and help. Can you work with me to improve the article please? GizzyCatBella (talk) 10:28, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
{{ping|Icewhiz} Please check the article now and improve if necessary. GizzyCatBella (talk) 10:54, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
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