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Bon article

Hi Maunus, for information, after translation in French of most of the article Language, I've started a label procedure and mentionned your name ], assuming you were the main author, but correct me if I am wrong. Thanks a again for this beautiful article and for the interaction. Cordially Cathrotterdam (talk) 06:46, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi Cathrotterdam, I am sorry I did not get involved much in the translation process, but am happy to see that you have nominated it for bon article. There are of course other authors of the artivcle, but I think it is correct to consider me the main contriubutor to its current state (User:Rjanag wrote the poart about neurolinguistics, User:Cnilep the part about acquisition). Many thanks for keeping me updated and bonne chance with the nomination.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 07:01, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Much oblige

Thanks for helping out with Swedish language. Good call on the order of sections.

Gonna try to satisfy the concerns over at Misplaced Pages:Featured article review/Swedish language/archive2, so help or advice (like good sources) will be most welcome.

And have some pastry for your troubles. :-)

Peter 09:41, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi Maunus, I was about to ask about the same thing but met the new multi-coloured edit conflict gadget, more confusing than a whole fairground lit up in twinkly lamps. The article is in pretty good order and deserves to be rescued. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:46, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

I have some well-deserved leave this week and I'll start working on the Swedish article. Could you e-mail me the PDF you mentioned in the FAR? I'm sure it could be very helpful.

Peter 10:18, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Actually, it turned out to be pretty useless - mostly reading lessons. I will see if I don't receive the two other grammars I ordered sometime during this week.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 10:26, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

@Peter Isotalo:, now I have Auwera and Koenig and Holmes and Hinchcliffe's "Essential Swedish Grammar" both of which will be useful. I may be able to scan important parts and send them to you.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 06:38, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Seseo

Sorry, I linked to a wrong section. I meant to link to Phonological_history_of_Spanish_coronal_fricatives#Historical_evolution. As you can see, it's clearly wrong to call seseo a "merger of /s/ and /θ/" because accents with seseo have never had the latter in the first place. It's rather like calling the foot-strut split a merger. It's wrong. Mr KEBAB (talk) 17:39, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Ok, understood now. I have selfreverted my reversion of your change. Thanks!·maunus · snunɐɯ· 17:42, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Aztec legacy

Maunus, I'll see what I can do next week to improve the article. Amuseclio (talk) 01:59, 4 April 2018 (UTC)Amuseclio

I will be adding much more to the Aztec legacy section. I hope a Diego Rivera mural image with better resolution can be found. I added the logo for the Cuauhtemoc Moctezuma Brewery in the popular culture subsection. Amuseclio (talk) 04:45, 6 May 2018 (UTC)Amuseclio

Aztec etc

Hey I just noticed it's in GAN. I'm busy for the near future, but when we're both done, I'll chip in in any way I can. May be a few weeks tho, sorry. later... Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 05:02, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Hey @Lingzhi:, thanks for the statement of moral support. I personally don't mind long GA reviews, as long as the article gets better - but I think the reviewer may well want to have it done earlier than a couple of weeks. But thanks! I know you are working on the Bengal famine article and that there is some sort of what shall we say...hullaballoo...going on with that. I hope you get it solved, so the article can be promoted. Best.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 07:38, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Bengal famine of 1943 spot checks

• Just let me know if you need any sources. I will email then to you. Thanks! Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 01:16, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
• No need to do this. Ian Rose closed the FAC. Thanks Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 02:34, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Ok, it would have taken me some time. But it did seem like it was going nowhere. I think some of the objections to the writing style were also valid. I am sorry your work didn't pay off.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 06:23, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

There is a difference between claims and acceptance

Rajus don't claim they are Kshatriyas. They are Kshatriyas and there is acceptance for that. Sharkslayer87 (talk) 13:02, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Then you need to present the sources that say so unequivocally. And if there are sources that say otherwise then they need to be included as well.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 13:31, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Indigenismo and Indigenismo in Mexico

Dear Maunus, I've proposed merging the two articles Indigenismo in Mexico to Indigenismo. Take a look at the talk pages. I'm surprised the pageviews for both are so low. Where appropriate, I'll pay attention to linking articles I'm working on, which might boost page view stats. I know from your user page that you don't see such debates generating much light, but I think that readers are not being well served by having two articles. It would be great if you could take a moment to weigh in on the talk pages. Amuseclio (talk) 17:41, 4 May 2018 (UTC)Amuseclio

.Dear Amuseclio, I will take a look, but I must say I don't know enough about indigenismo in South America to assess whether it is reasonable to merge the two. My intuition says it is bette o keep both and then link to the Mexican article from the general article - but it depends a little on whether we can find any literature about indigenismo in general. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 18:48, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

The article Boycott

Hello! As I understand, the word "boycott" is an eponym since it was derived from the name of Charles Boycott. I think that it is helpful if that is clearly stated in the article. Don't you agree? --Bensin (talk) 12:42, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

No. People can understand that Boycott is named after Charles Boycott without having the word "eponym" in the text. In fact using the word eponym, which most people probably don't know may confuse rather than help the reader. There is no need to link to thre article eponym everytime a word arises as an eponym. The normal and easily understandable way of saying this is saying something is "named after" something else. The word "eponym" is overused in some journalistic genres (notably music journalism), but it is rarely helpful in an encyclopedic context. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 12:51, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Reading anything may confuse anybody. The beauty here is the possibility to link to other articles so that any reader who does not understand the meaning of what an eponym is may click the link and read that article. My best guess is that anybody reading a section named "Etymology" would appreciate appropriate use of words like "eponym" or "portmanteau". --Bensin (talk) 13:49, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

The point of an encyclopedia article is not to teach the reader new vocabulary. It is not helpful to force unnecessary jargon into an article and divert the readers attanetion with links to articles that are not necessary in order to understand the article they are reading. It is both better language and more helpful to simply write that Boycott is named for Charles Boycott. Adding the word "epoynym" adds nothing to the article. I admit that removing this kind of abuse of the word "eponymous" is a pet peeve of mine. But I suggest you make an RfC if you want to insist that the word must be included.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 14:00, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

That's OK. Though I disagree that use of "eponymous" would be unnecessary jargon. Instead I think it's an excellent example of the word. I would also expect anyone discouraged by words like that to rather turn to the simple English version of the article. There is no need to drag it out. We may keep you version if you feel strongly about it. Thanks for answering. --Bensin (talk) 14:52, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

It is unnecessary because it can be explained in plain language with no loss of meaning, and it is jargon because not everybody will know it. Most readers don't know there is a simple English version of articles, and any ways they are never very good, and furthermore the fact that this is not the simple English wikipedia does not mean that we shouldn't strive for clear language that is readily intelligible to the average reader.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 15:22, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

How about doing something like this: named after I'm Underwater (talk) 08:46, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Aztec warfare Spanish observer

Could you put the name of the Spanish eyewitness that Hassig is quoting about Aztec warfare? Inquiring minds want a primary source. Amuseclio (talk) 22:38, 11 May 2018 (UTC)Amuseclio

I can't give the name unfortunately, because the source he cites is the Conquistador Anonimo. But I have added the name of the work he cites and a wikilink.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 06:10, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Yaqui Genocide

This editor is creating a huge headache. Virtually all their edits are copied from other articles without attribution. I found one where the sources don't match the text, and just sweeping my eye over the sources find things like "Rouse, p.7) with no way of finding out who it is. See my post to Dianna and to the editor. I've redirected one article to Taino. I guess this could be redirect to Yaqui. Doug Weller talk 09:51, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes, that makes sense - I think redirecting it to Yaqui is a good idea for now.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 10:27, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Which I did, only to be reverted with an edit summary saying he'd already said he was copying (it said " a section copied from another article" in his first edit summary, hardly helpful. I've reverted again asking him to stop. If he continues I think I'll have to take him to ANI. Doug Weller talk 11:50, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank You for Aztec articles Jkrn111 (talk) 17:40, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Malmø

Hi. Could you help me with the Danish pronunciation of Malmø? Is it perhaps or ? Either way, I assume it has stød because the corresponding Swedish pronunciation has the second toneme (). Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 02:31, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

looks right for me, though I wouldn't show both length and stød, but only stød. Apparently now, Danish phoneticians have begun to transcribe the stød before the syllable that it affects in which case your second option would be correct.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 08:34, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I'd rather stick to the transcription used on Help:IPA/Danish, but I'm aware that your suggestion is just as correct.

Yeah, but most older sources stick to putting after the syllable. Let's keep it that way for now, at least until the alternative becomes the predominant transcription. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 12:53, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

One more thing: is the transcription of Anders Lindegaard's surname correct? I'm pretty sure that words can have more than one stød, but shouldn't the last syllable be marked as bearing secondary stress? I think Nina Grønnum considers all syllables with stød to be stressed, but I could be mistaken. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 17:17, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

I don't have stød in the first syllable, and the vowel needs to be lower, and the final vowel is rounded (pronounced as å, though spelled with aa). I would write Danish: .·maunus · snunɐɯ· 18:46, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Are you sure about the final vowel though? That doesn't look like a transcription you'd normally see in dictionaries and reference works that use IPA (or at least the IPA-based system for Danish that we call IPA for simplicity). is a rounded vowel, maybe you mistook it for ? Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 19:27, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Well, going by the IPA/Danish it seems you are right because it does rhyme with "i går" - I just remember being taught using ʌ for that sound - but no matter, {{IPA-da|ɑnɐs ˈlenəɡɒˀ|lang} is fine.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 19:57, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Notification of AfD debate

Hi, I am writing to inform you that an AfD debate has been initiated for the article Environmental inequality in Europe (formerly Environmental racism in Europe). Thanks, Sturgeontransformer (talk) 21:00, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

New Page Patrol?

Hi Maunus,

I've recently been looking for editors to invite to join New Page Patrol, and from your editing history, I think you would be a good candidate. Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines; we could use some additional help from an experienced user like yourself.

Would you please consider becoming a New Page Reviewer? (After gaining the flag, patrolling is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). But kindly read the tutorial before making your decision. If you choose to apply, you can drop an application over at WP:PERM/NPR.

Cheers, and hope to see you around, — Insertcleverphrasehere 21:11, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:25, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Trouble at Black Legend

Cateyed, on the second day of his editing here, decided to create The Black Legend, covering Spain, and to reduce the long-established Black Legend page to a rump. Before he got started Black Legend was nearly 34k raw bytes, he then expanded it up to nearly 62K, before removing the Spanish stuff and reducing it to under 10K. I haven't had time to to work through his changes, though it is clear his English will always need a basic check for grammar and spelling, and his additions seem to be reference-free. I didn't think this was acceptable without discussion, so for now I reverted back to a version before his big cut. This page gets over 300 views a day, and has always been somewhat of a target for problems. I haven't formed a view as to whether a generalized "black legend" page is needed, but if it is, I don't think Black Legend and The Black Legend are sufficiently distinct titles. Perhaps this should be resolved by a WP:RM discussion, but I'm asking for preliminary views at the BL talk page first, ideally from those who have looked through Cateyed's many additions, at BL and at the other article. You're one of the top editors, so I'm informing you. Johnbod (talk) 01:56, 29 June 2018 (UTC)