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There is no mention in the entire article of ] or the lesser-known ] which are contemporary with Mustafa Kemal's rule and political development. Admittedly these issues are sensitive (see ]'s career), but to omit them altogether is to take a non-neutral stance. ]. There is no mention in the entire article of ] or the lesser-known ] which are contemporary with Mustafa Kemal's rule and political development. Admittedly these issues are sensitive (see ]'s career), but to omit them altogether is to take a non-neutral stance. ].
What genocide? The subject is Ataturk, not armenians dumbass

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Islamic Fundamentalism

I hear that the fundamentalists strongly criticize Mustafa Kemal. I recall a rap by Soldiers of Allah proclaiming him to be a "so called hero". Any info? Extremists doesn't like him because Atatürk removed Islamic State System and make a law based system that muslims and non muslims are 100% equal.

His family?

I think we should mention Atatürk's family somewhere in this article. Perhaps we could title the section "personal life" or something along those lines. Then we can mention his wife (was he married twice?) and his children, including Sabiha Gökçen—who isn't mentioned in this article at all. I'll try to do some research on his family, and add the section if there are no objections (unless someone beats me too it). —Khoikhoi 05:54, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I agree with your suggestion and I was planning to add something in that line when I have the time. With a quick check, Atatürk had at least eight adopted children (Afet İnan, Sabiha Gökçen, Fikriye, Ülkü, Nebile, Rukiye, Zehra, and Mustafa). So please go on and I will try to help you in the process. Regards, Atilim Gunes Baydin 16:55, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I've added the section. —Khoikhoi 19:08, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Not to mention his menagerie called Abdul.

great article

one of the better articles i've seen on wikipedia. surprisingly unbiased. i was expecting the usual wiki-marx drivel

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.140.5.249 (talk) 06:53, 11 October 2006.

Problematic image caption

I am removing the mention of "32 kings and 62 presidents" from the image caption of USSR reception near section "international relations", as this seems to be a folk legend circulating around Turkish forums and I could not find any reliable source confirming this. Please keep the caption that way until these numbers can be proved. And the names of every single one of these monarchs and leaders should be listable, for such a great occasion. Atilim Gunes Baydin 21:26, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

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So, if reliable sources are brought forth, the information can be added. If not, then it can't. —Khoikhoi 21:54, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Hagiographic

Overtly hagiographic, this needs to change and change soon.

No mention of genocide

There is no mention in the entire article of Armenian Genocide or the lesser-known Hellenic Genocide which are contemporary with Mustafa Kemal's rule and political development. Admittedly these issues are sensitive (see Orhan Pamuk's career), but to omit them altogether is to take a non-neutral stance. User:erxnmedia. What genocide? The subject is Ataturk, not armenians dumbass

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