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Copyright violation

Much of the material in this articles seems to have been lifted verbatim from http://www.altcpualumni.org/chronicles/dex5cpuchronicles.html, which is an extremely partisan source. If anyone has time it would be helpful to remove verbatim copying and to check the POV. -Willmcw 22:30, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Can we discuss major changes to the article here, please? Thanks, -Willmcw 21:57, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Graduate defends school April 25, 2006

As a 1989 graduate, of Columbia Pacific University, I can only say, my studies were real and my work, of 3+ years, was the reason for the granting of my degree. CPU Graduates were NOT given anything, we worked for our degrees.

The school, was most likely attacked for political reasons; which was very unfortunate. I would encourage other CPU graduates to make there comments here.

Mark A. Gardner - ATP-CE500,CE560XL, B.S.,CFII,MEI. (Professional Pilot)

Graduate defends school May 3, 2006

Over 1.5 years I researched and collected government documents to develop the above website. Those documents were scanned and linked in that website, so that anyone can take the time to view them. I am the originator of that website (http://www.altcpualumni.org/chronicles/dex5cpuchronicles.html). I am also the originator of the the original Wiki article. If it would be of help I can upload scanned government documents to support everything I have written.

Earon Kavanagh, BS (CPU 1995); PhD Candidate, Tilburg University (Netherlands, gov't funded provincial university) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Earon (talk • contribs)

The new entry at the beginning of the Wiki article claims that CPU was a "notorious diploma mill". This statement is both misleading, nonsense, lacking analysis, and libelous. Court rulings on the CPU matter (both administrative and State appeals) did not make such statements. If it would help I can upload a pdf of the 1991 State review of CPU and the State document of approval which asserts that CPU was equivalent in quality to regionally accredited institutions. I can also upload court documents and rulings. The press selected negative rhetoric from the local State attorney. I can also upload eyewitness statement from John Bear PhD, who witnessed Judge Jean Druyee berate that State attorney for his lack of preparedness and his obnoxious behavior in the courtroom. Most negative publicity on the internet related to CPU is simply persons copying and repeating negative press in their own websites, without doing any actual evident analysis of the situation.

Incidently, CPU was awarded IRS nonprofit status in February, 2006. CPU Press also published its first book in over a decade.

Earon Kavanagh, BS (CPU 1995); PhD Candidate, Tilburg University (Netherlands, gov't funded provincial university) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Earon (talk • contribs)

The article is very inaccurate. Below are a few reasons why. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.106.164.181 (talk • contribs) . (text omitted - see link at http://www.rae.org/racistresponse.html)

Thanks for your input. I deleted the text you copied and pasted from your website, and replaced it with a link. -Will Beback 20:25, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Documents

Will: Thanks, I will rewrite the article providing I can upload the original government documents to Misplaced Pages as the primary source files. That way, the "red flag" of citing one source will not be occurring. The website was started in 2001 as a way to hold and display these documents. EaronEaron 03:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

I have removed the phrase "as the school had very low academic standards" from the second paragraph on CPU. This phrase is unnecessary, unscholarly and misleading. The fact that the school failed to meet the 1995 reapproval vist under the new regulations of 1989 implies clearly that the school's academic and other administration standards did not meet the new regulations. The school could have re-applied and received approval at a later date if it so chose as did Pacific Western University for its business program. Failing a reapproval test, or a re-accreditation visit, does not discredit the school's performance for its entire life. It simply means that the school is not meeting current standards and must clean up its act to continue. EaronEaron 15:46, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

From what I read on the BPPVE site and in the Point Reyes Light, the point of view that you are describing appears to be an unusal one. While we need to include all points of view, we should not give too much weight to minority views. -Will Beback 19:48, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Good point, Will. I will make sure that all points and views are given equal value. It will take a bit of time. However those points should reflect sound research and analysis. Simply regurgitating what is found on negative websites that also regurgitate is misleading. I have no qualms with the BPPVE website as it is source material. The fact is that CPU failed its 1995 reapproval visit, and then chose to stay open AFTER being told to close in 1997. However, court testimony from Dr. Betty Dowd, a whistleblower, also impicate higher ups at the CPPVE, BPPVE's predeccor. This will also be placed on the Wiki site. That is where CPU got into trouble. We need to keep to the facts, and give opinions a lesser weight. P.S. Thanks for the welcome. I do have some non-CPU material to add to Wiki. Cheers, EaronEaron 04:38, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Earon, you might want to look at Misplaced Pages:reliable sources. Basically, we don't allow forums, blogs, and self-published material as sources. -Will Beback 06:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Columbia Pacific University (CPU): A Victim of Miscarriage of Justice and Sensationalist Media

Dirty Politics and Libellous Announcements

Irresponsible and libellous media announcements have defamed Columbia Pacific University (CPU) as a diploma mill. In reality CPU was supervised and approved by the California State Department of Education. Effective 1986-1989, California documents confirm that CPU's full institutional approval was the equivalent of regional accreditation.

CPU was a California State Accredited University. CPU degrees are legal and valid! California newspapers, such as the Point Reyes Light and the Union Tribune in San Diego published misinforming articles about CPU but failed to set the record straight when I submitted to the editors letters requesting appropriate corrections.

The closing of CPU resulted not from valid educational considerations but from the dirty politics of higher education in California. Mind you, the judicial system is often not about truth and justice but about power and money. Miscarriage of justice is a common phenomenon. CPU was closed on the basis of a fabricated report full of factual errors and insubstantial allegations. For example, it absurdly claimed that Harvard-trained psychiatrist Dr. Richard Crews was unfit to serve as the President of CPU because he was an MD and not a PhD. Another preposterous and prejudiced assertion was directed against the black deans of CPU holding PhDs from well-known European universities. The report falsely alleged that these European universities are unaccredited. There were over 80 errors of fact in the report rendering it completely worthless.

Error of Fact Number 28: The Spanish Dissertation

Error of Fact Number 28, for example, has become quite famous and mentioned in a variety of media articles. It concerns a Spanish dissertation that allegedly was approved by faculty who did not speak Spanish. In reality, the CPU faculty mentor who supervised the dissertation worked with the student in Spanish and the doctoral thesis provided Table of Contents, Summary and additional information in English. Moreover, CPU policy changed in early 1995, so that dissertations could be submitted only in English.

Documented refutation of all the false claims against CPU has been published on line in "The Chronicles of Columbia Pacific University", www.altcpualumni.org. Please, note that CPU graduates earned their degrees through competency and hard work. Thousands of them teach at accredited schools or work in research, civil service, business and industry. The defamation of the good name of CPU as a pioneer of distance education is unfair and unacceptable. Today CPU is a federally recognized non-profit educational institution, www.cpuniv.us .

Pluralistic Education is a Necessity''

I believe that Pluralistic Education advances the Public Good and therefore it is not only a Democratic Right but also a Necessity. We live in the electronic age that can provide the technology for the development of an information society in which education becomes accessible to broad segments of humankind. The rise of cybernetic culture in the global village can bring distance learning even to the most remote areas of the world. It helps education to be more democratic. Knowledge is power. Education empowers people to become an integral part of a well-informed citizenry, enabling them to create a constructive culture of social and political democracy.

Today virtual schools allow the realization of the once-utopic vision of education for all. Unfortunately, the development of virtual schools is also accompanied by the proliferation of Diploma Mills, bogus universities that are in the business of selling fake academic degrees. The infestation of the academic world with diploma mills is accompanied by the problem of how to separate the wheat from the chaff, the wide-spread inability of the public to differentiate between legitimate and illegitimate educational institutions.

Authoritarian Measures Suffocate Creativity

It was Albert Einstein who stressed that imagination is more important than knowledge and that the outstanding accomplishments of the intellect are based on the freedom of thought. In Ideas and Opinions (1954) he points out that the development of science and of the creative activities of the spirit require inner freedom, "the independence of thought from the restrictions of authoritarian and social prejudices as well as from unphilosophical routinizing and habit in general" (p. 42). And he adds: Schools might play constructive or destructive roles. They may favour inward freedom and encourage independent thought but they may also interfere and repress them through authoritarian measures.

Another leading thinker, Nicholas Negroponte, Professor of Media Technology at MIT, maintains that bureaucratic organizations are the enemies of creative environments. In "Where Do New Ideas Come From?" (Wire, 4.01), he observes that governments and corporations are sterile leagues that stifle imagination and creativity. This is a pity, he says, because we need innovative schools to develop, foster and nurture new ideas for human progress. Prof. Negroponte views the university as an unsettled habitat with undefined edges accommodating academics as well as people "who don't fit traditional scholarship" because new ideas come from a muddled creative environment.

A CPU Connection

Allow me please to add a note about my affiliation with CPU. After graduating from high school in Hungary, I attended for two years the University of Szeged. I hold a BA and a Teacher's Certificate from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, and a Master's (History and Art History) from Concordia University in Montreal ( Canada). I wrote my thesis on Georg Lukacs: Aesthetics and History. I completed all my doctoral course requirements at Concordia, did additional work at Columbia Pacific University and wrote my dissertation on The Interface Dynamics of Art and Science (1986). In the process of researching my doctoral thesis I collaborated with a group of renowned scientists and scholars, including P.R. Halmos (Editor of the American Mathematical Monthly), Sir Nevill Mott (Nobel Laureate in Physics) and John Kemeny ( Dartmouth College President). Under the title, The Brush and the Compass, the dissertation was published in 1988 by University Press of America, an umbrella academic clearing house of Harvard, Columbia, Stanford and others. The book has been internationally acclaimed and also taught in anthropology, art and science and other interdisciplinary courses. I am also the author of A History of Architecture (Jerusalem: R. Mass, 1972), as well as of other critically acclaimed books, and have published numerous scholarly papers in such peer-reviewed journals as Leonardo, Orbiter, Ylem,Pulsar,Contemporary Philosophy, Q.A.M.T. and Lo Straniero.

Paul Hartal

pzhartal@hotmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.7.149.45 (talk • contribs)

Edits on May 9, 2006

To the Editors of Misplaced Pages:

Thank you for deleting the highly misleading, offensive wording “notorious diploma mill” from Misplaced Pages’s entry on Columbia Pacific University! Eliminating such contradictory “add-ons” is important for Misplaced Pages to avoid the appearance of being a “scissor-and-paste” reference source.

In taking a stand for the truth and consistency, more still needs to be done in order to remove the dark cloud of injustice that has been brought to hang over the thousands who earned their legitimate CPU degrees. For example, the Associated Press quote that CPU “had virtually no academic standards” belies that fact that the majority of CPU’s faculty were professors of regionally accredited institutions and held to the same standard of excellence required by their “home” institutions. And those who sat for their California State psychologist license with their CPU degrees had to put in the same thousands of hours of State-approved supervised internship just like those who graduated from traditional accredited institutions.

In earning my Ph.D., I had real “in-person” qualified professors, readers, and advisors who helped guided my on-site research (not a “paper” research).

The late Dr. H. Douglas Dean, Professor of Biology at Pepperdine University, met with me once or twice per month at the university for 2-6 hours each time for 24 months (his wife Dr. Lucia Dean, M.D., can verify this). Prior to that, I spent several months of preparatory research taking the course “Observing Animal Behaviors in Zoos” at UCLA.

In developing my dissertation, I had numerous meetings with David Morehead (California Licensed Psychologist), Linda Cron (Assistant Prof. of English, California State University at Fullerton), Carroll Pitts, Jr. (late Prof. of Ministry, Pepperdine; his wife Berniece can verify my meetings), and Michio Nagai (Prof. of Old Testament Studies, Pepperdine University, now retired).

The librarians of the Los Angeles Zoo Library, Charles E.Young Research Library (UCLA), Kennedy Library (Calif. State Univ. at L.A.), and Payson Library (Pepperdine) had to complete a form to be approved that it can support my doctoral research:

Finally, hundreds of hours of on-site research were done at the Los Angeles & San Diego Zoos.

Recognition of my CPU doctorate can be seen in that agreeing to participate in the conferring of my Ph.D., held at Pepperdine’s Stauffer Chapel, was Dr. Carl Mitchell, Religion Dept. Chairperson and Professor of Psychology and William Green Scholar (he is now at Harding University, AR).

Does this sound like a “diploma mill” with “virtually no academic standards”? As you can see, CPU definitely DID have academic standards and they were adhered to by the professors from the very traditional Pepperdine University! Thank you for your responsible editorship, sense of “fair play” and not allowing Misplaced Pages to be abused by those who are bent on maligning CPU!!!

Sincerely,

Dr. Allen Wai Jang 1993 “National Honor Roll Science Teacher” (nominated by UC Berkeley's Lawrence Hall of Science, selected by the Association of Science & Technology Centers) 2004 Teen Ink magazine “Educator of the Year” — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.7.149.45 (talk • contribs)

Steven A. Brody

Someone added several entries to the list of notable alumni. I spot checked a couple and found this odd one. Dr. Brody says on his CV (here) that he received a PhD. from CPU in Novato in 2001. But our article says they had been closed long before that. Any ideas? -Will Beback 20:37, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

No source was given for the additions and many supposed alumni do not appear to be notable, so I've removed the new entries. Let's find a verifiable source before adding more names, please. Cheers, -Will Beback 22:53, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

"Cheers", Churchill said to his son:

Lord Randolph was drunk. "Father", Winston said, "I'm now the Prime Minister of Great Britain". "Well, Lord Randolph replied, "for my part you're still nothing".

I don't remember where I read this anecdote. But it clearly shows how easy it is to belittle people. Quite effortlessly one can dismiss and traduce values. I write this because a list of notable CPU alumni was removed by Wiki editor Will Beback. As the editor explains, these "supposed alumni do not appear to be notable". I agree that it is better when statements come with links. However, all the CPU alumni who were listed are noted and highly accomplished individuals. Information about them is verifiable on line. Morover, even entries on CPU alumni, with internal and external links, such as Wallace W. Rhodes ], and by now, John Gray, David Hawkins and Jerry Bergman vanished from the Wiki article.

The CPU story is most complex, and like everything else, it deserves fair treatment and honest presentation.

Paul Hartal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul Hartal (talk • contribs)

23 June, 2006

What was the source for these alumni? The same editor added Dr. Brody, who turned out to not be an alumni after all, even though he lists it on his CV. Is there a list of alumni? -Will Beback 03:10, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

PS: the names of Gray, Hawkins, and Bergamn were removed in this edit here:. I've reverted it. -Will Beback 03:13, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Dr. Brody and CPU

Steven A. Brody, M.D., Ph.D.,holds a Bachelor's degree and a Master's degree from Brown University in Providence, RI. After earning a medical degree from Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, he completed his Internship at Yale and his OB/GYN Residency at Stanford University Medical Center(1986). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Paul Hartal (talk • contribs) .

I'm not sure why we're still discussing Brody, but here's what his CV says,

• Doctorate:
• Columbia Pacific University
• School of Health Services Administration
• Novato, California
• Ph.D. March 31, 2001

Perhaps no one told him that his degree was revoked. -Will Beback 01:49, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Any Ideas? asks Wiki Editor Will Beback regarding Dr. Brody's CPU PhD, 15 June, 2006. The editor cut short my previous comment. In any case, Dr. Brody's PhD might be valid after all but rather than a CPU PhD it might be a Columbia Commonwealth University (CCWU) PhD. At the time that Dr. Brody graduated CPU incorporated itself as a different school under the name CCWU. CCWU is licensed in Wyoming as a degree granting institution and has applied for regionally accredited status. --Paul Hartal 02:57, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure how a school called CPU in California could be mistaken for a school called CCWU in Wyoming. Most diplomas have the name of the granting institution written on them. -Will Beback 04:44, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Today CPU and CCWU are indeed two separate schools, with entirely different names. Still, after the closing of CPU in California, the owners reopened the school in Montana under the same name. Later, they changed its name to CCWU and licensed it in Wyoming. A group of CPU graduates, whose degrees were revoked by California due to the closing of the university in 1997, opted for legalizing and validating their degrees through CCWU. The case of Dr. Brody's revoked Ph.D. resoundingly demonstrates the absurdity of rendering illegal the academic credentials of an internationally renowned physician and scholar by judicial means. The prosecutor who called CPU degrees absolutely worthless did not read a word of Dr. Brody's dissertation. CPU was closed on the basis of a fabricated report in which independent critics found over 80 errors of facts. These errors of fact make the document virtually worthless. Apart from this, the fundamental philosophical and pedagogical premises of the report are all debatable. Above, I have already pointed out some of these. A so far overlooked aspect of the report involves critical details that confuse quality with quantity. For example, it singles out for criticism a CPU dissertation, which, disregarding the appendixes and the bibliography, comprises only sixty pages. Now, mind you, Einstein's doctoral thesis, " A New Definition of Molecular Dimensions", submitted to the University of Zurich in 1905, was only 21 page long.

--Paul Hartal 01:33, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

• A group of CPU graduates, whose degrees were revoked by California due to the closing of the university in 1997, opted for legalizing and validating their degrees through CCWU.

How did that work? -Will Beback 02:02, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

With a MSEd and MSEdAd, I completed all of the PhD requirements from CPU's Administration and Management Program in July 1999 - a most challenging and noteworthy program. Upon learning of the termination of CPU's license, I was able to transfer 48 CPU credits to Columbia Commonwealth University and re-earn a PhD October 2003. Although additional learning is valuable, the additional cost and time could have been very beneficially utilized towards my profession in public education with an earned PhD from CPU. Rosemary Fecteau Ph.D.

The Facts on CPU and CCWU. By late December, 2000, the three owners of CPU had gone their separate ways and CPU closed. Les Carr, one of the founding owners decided to start a school called "CPU Montana" in Missoula, Montana. Carr's attorney sent letters to CPU students who had not finished their degrees, inviting them to complete their degrees at the new institution, but they had to sign off on the legal paperwork. I was one of those students. Within three months, Carr decided to change the name of the new school to Columbia Commonwealth U. This made absolute sense. I consulted with Carr on all of this as I had been working on the worsening CPU image situation since 1999.

The new school "CPU Montana" had no corporate relation or other relationship to the original CPU of California, which was now closed. The other two owners were also gone. Anyone graduating from a "CPU" after December 2000 in fact graduated from what is now called "Columbia Commonwealth U", as did I. They should make arrangements with that institution to have their degrees updated with the proper name. The name "CPU Montana" was changed legally in March 2001 to "Columbia Commonwealth" U. Degrees from that school, for a short while (three months), were imprinted "CPU Montana" (in full text).

Columbia Pacific University is now incorporated as a nonprofit institution and approved by the IRS as a charitable entity that can grant tax-deductible receipts in the USA for donations. CPU is not offering degrees at this time, while carrying out its reorganization. The two names CPU and CCWU should not be intermingled as there is no relationship.

Earon Kavanagh M.S. (PhD Candidate, Tilburg U) Information Officer, CPU Board of Directors

Thanks for that response. Since the CPU Novato was disbanded, I'm not sure what the connection is, if any, to the "new" CPU. Is the new CPU 501(c)(3)? -Will Beback 00:52, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

FACTS: The Old CPU and the new CPU - July 1, 2006 Will: An alumni group that was working to organize the alumni community acquired all of the remaining assets of CPU in early 2005. We now own, watch over and control all CPU graduate records - for over 7000 graduates, and we issue the transcripts; we hold the right to use the course materials, the logo/seal - everything. We are incorporated as a nonprofit in Delaware (state of incorporation only), we operate our transcript service out of Florida and are registered with the Secretary of State to do our nonprofit transcript business there. We are also tax-exempt under IRS 501 (c) and can issue tax receipts to CPU alumni members and other donors in the USA. We, in effect, are seriously engaged in the corporate and institutional turnaround of Columbia Pacific University. We have several committees working on several areas (see www.cpuniv.us). However, as we are still engaged in early stages of redevelopment, CPU is not currently offering courses or degrees. CPU never died, although it was certainly mortally wounded for political reasons before it could come into its stride. I have been working on reinvigorating CPU, chiefly in the interests of the alumni community since 1996, when I first got word of the failed reapproval visit in California. I am well known in the distance education community for these activities. The reinvigoration project picked up speed after CPU closed in California in 2000. In 2000 I conceived and started www.altcpualumni.org as a way to tell the CPU story, based primarily on records. In 2003 the organizing began with a group of senior alumni. The pace again picked up speed in 2004 when we formed a governing board. In 2005 we began to make achievements in our governance structure. The founders of CPU made some strategic mistakes: they did not acquire nonprofit status, and they did not seek accreditation as they got too comfortable under the early California regulations (my analysis). We are merely doing what should have been done years ago. There are over 7000 graduates of CPU, most of them American. We hold consumer interests as our highest priority. The state's failing of CPU did not take consumer interests fully into account. CPU should have been put on probation when it failed to meet the new regulations in 1995, as it had a successful site reapproval visit in 1991. How do I know this? I have the records of the visit and the recommendations. Probation is standard practice with the regional accreditors, as students, alumni and other consumers are deemed as important stakeholders. An institution warrants its degree holders; if an institution fails, its graduates tend to go down with it. The state's behavior with CPU was/is unfair and perhaps unethical in education practice. A failing school should be given at least one change to make needed adjustments.

Earon Kavanagh M.S. (PhD Candidate, Tilburg U) Information Officer, CPU Board of Directors — Preceding unsigned comment added by Earon (talk • contribs)

New comment

This entry on CPU is completely non-neutral and ought to be so noted. Most of the material is from the defenders of the discredited and disreputable CPU. There is no balance of viewpoints from others.

The fact that the article attempts to use the "honorary" conferring of one of its bogus doctorates on a public personage who likely never heard of it speaks volumes about CPU's reputability. There is no evidence anywhere except on CPU-promoting web sites that Harold Wilson, former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, ever had anything to do with CPU.

The fact that CPU is defended by a "graduate" who cannot tell the difference between "there" and "their" speaks to the quality of the "education" the "students" of CPU purchased.

24.20.176.2 20:43, 26 September 2006 (UTC)Legitimate Learning

The Libellous Claims of "Legitimate Learning"

Hiding behind a pompous pseudonym, “Legitimate Learning” makes irresponsible, false and libellous accusations against Columbia Pacific University. He ignores the fact that in 1986 CPU received full institutional approval from the California State Department of Education and that the school’s approved status was the equivalent of regional accreditation in the US. CPU degrees earned between 1978 and 1997 are legal and valid.

Ironically, Legitimate Learning calls “for balance of viewpoints”, which is certainly not his forte, as can be seen from his defamatory conclusions regarding CPU because of a typo made by one of its graduates.

“Legitimate Learning” expresses his biased opinion and demonstrates his sloppy research skills regarding Harold Wilson’s affiliation with CPU. Contrary to his claim, the former British Prime Minister was an Honorary Fellow of Columbia Pacific University. The award was conferred on him at the CPU Degree Ceremonies held in October 1983 in Birmingham, England. In addition to Harold Wilson, other distinguished leaders also held Honorary CPU Fellowships, among them David Attenborough, the world famous naturalist, and Jill Knight, M.B.E. M.P., Member of Parliament for Edgbaston, Birmingham. Documented evidence for this can be found, for example, in the 1984-1985 General Catalogue of CPU (page 14). The 1985 edition of Bear’s Guide to Non-Traditional College Degrees by John Bear mentions Harold Wilson’s Honorary CPU Fellowship (page 96). Moreover, in an article of August 5, 1983, published in The Times Educational Supplement in England, Sarah Bayliss reported that CPU was a serious non-traditional university, “which boasts many reputable names among its faculty and honorary award holders”. She wrote: “Mr. Barry Taylor, chief education officer for Somerset, last autumn accepted an honorary fellowship from CPU”, and so did “Mr. John Tomlinson, chief education officer of Cheshire and president of the Society of Education Officers in 1982”. Paul Hartal 03:29, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup

I corrected some problems with this article, but I think it needs a reorganization and minor clean-up. In first read it appears to have some slight POV issues as well (perhaps the tone of the article is a bit negative). As one example of the clean-up needed, there is this sentence: "discovered eight permit-less dormitories on Carr's property at 148 Wilson Hill Rd." However, Carr is not identified. Who is this? I'm adding a cleanup tag to the article. Isoxyl 14:53, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the Proposed Cleanup

The full name of Carr, mentioned in the article, is Les Carr, PhD, a graduate of Vanderbilt University in clinical psychology and education. A former Dean and Academic Vice President of Salve Regina College, RI, and President of Lewis University, Ill., Dr. Carr was a Co-founder of CPU and its Dean of Faculty. Your observation, Isoxyl, about the negative tone of the article is correct. As a matter of fact CPU has suffered a great injustice. Consider, for example, the judge’s vulgar, non sequitur and fallacious ruling: “The decision is not whether or not the students are dissatisfied. I mean that is not the test. It’s like saying, you know, that prostitution should not be illegal because the customers are satisfied”. Equating the serious, legitimate and legal learning efforts of thousands of accomplished CPU students with prostitution? Mind you, student satisfaction and performance are a crucially important factor in measuring a school’s success. Make a web search and you will find an amazing number of very successful people with CPU degrees. The closure of CPU was an unfair and politically tainted act. In the CPU trials neither students nor faculty were invited to testify.

Paul Hartal 23:44, 21 October 2006 (UTC)