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Bayer will retire Monsanto name on June 7th

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/04/with-deal-to-close-this-week-bayer-to-retire-monsanto-name.html Shushugah (talk) 19:10, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Also Rupert Neate (4 June 2018). "Monsanto to ditch its infamous name after sale to Bayer". The Guardian. Retrieved 11 August 2018. Pol098 (talk) 20:14, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Ukraine

There are articles on the net which claim that monsanto bought vast tracts of land in Ukraine. The sale had something to do with an IMF loan which would not have been granted without that sale. Does Bayer now own these, too, and what were the intentions and activities with that land? 2001:8003:A928:800:D987:A121:5FC1:F91D (talk) 02:40, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Due weight a Roundup Cancer coverage.

My edit was reverted for "undue weight". From WP:DUE: "Keep in mind that, in determining proper weight, we consider a viewpoint's prevalence in reliable sources, not its prevalence among Misplaced Pages editors or the general public."

The mention of what the jury found, and the reason for the large fine, were reported in all coverage of this case:

Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/aug/10/monsanto-trial-cancer-dewayne-johnson-ruling

NBC https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jury-orders-monsanto-pay-290m-roundup-trial-n899811

CBS https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dewayne-johnson-monsanto-roundup-weed-killer-jury-award-today-2018-08-10/

Vox https://www.vox.com/2018/8/11/17678532/monsanto-roundup-causes-cancer-jury

NPR https://www.npr.org/2018/08/10/637722786/jury-awards-terminally-ill-man-289-million-in-lawsuit-against-monsanto

It should be on WP too. Therefore I will restore my edit. KoA43 was wrong in claiming my edit added undue weight. petrarchan47คุก 09:25, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Please respect the intent of 1RR here. The idea that glyphosate or its formulations are carcinogenic is pretty much WP:FRINGE, so if we do mention those viewpoints, they are very subdued. Court cases aren't exactly WP:MEDRS here either. Consensus has repeatedly been that we cover the case to a degree in that it happened, but major weight issues occur when someone tries to expound the viewpoints of those bringing that case forward. Kingofaces43 (talk) 15:40, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Roundup =/= Glyphosate

In this edit, KoA43 mentions the safety of Glyphosate in the Roundup section, conflating the two, just as Bayer is doing.

From coverage of the recent Roundup cancer trial:

" never mentions Roundup, instead using the word glyphosate. This is intentional, he noted.

"Glyphosate is "different than Roundup" since it includes a cocktail of other chemicals, which increases its weed killing potency. Wisner pointed out that the jury in California focused heavily on the "synergistic effect of the glyphosate and the other chemicals."

"And the simple fact is, Monsanto has never tested the carcinogenicity of the combined product," Wisner added. https://www.dw.com/en/did-monsanto-know-its-weed-killer-could-be-deadly-to-people/a-45116915

"And the last thing is—and this is really important—is that Mr. Partridge doesn’t say Roundup doesn’t cause cancer; he says glyphosate. And he does that intentionally, because he knows that glyphosate is different than Roundup. Now, glyphosate is part of Roundup, but Roundup is a combined product of glyphosate plus a bunch of other chemicals that make glyphosate significantly more potent. And one of the things that the jury is really focused on, this jury in our case, was that there’s a synergistic effect of the glyphosate and the other chemicals. And the simple fact is, Monsanto has never tested the carcinogenicity of the combined product. And this omission is glaring, and it’s intentional. In fact, we have internal documents that say, “We do not want to look at this issue because we’re afraid of what we’re going to see.” And the jury heard all this, and they rejected this idea that it’s a safe product, that it doesn’t cause cancer. And they said not only does it cause cancer, but that Monsanto acted with malice in doing so. I think that’s really important." https://www.democracynow.org/2018/8/14/historic_ruling_against_monsanto_finds_company

Please amend the edit so that it is scientifically accurate and encyclopedic. petrarchan47คุก 09:49, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

None of these are WP:MEDRS or WP:SCIRS and would seem to contradict what good sources actually do have to say about synergistic effects or risks of the formulations. What's currently there has been agreed upon text that accurately represents the sources in previous discussions, so that currently is the scientifically accurate version. Glyphosate-based_herbicides has more on that. Kingofaces43 (talk) 15:45, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

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