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*That AE thread is not about you, so no, you may not comment on it. ~ ]<sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">]</sup> 02:14, 14 September 2018 (UTC) | *That AE thread is not about you, so no, you may not comment on it. This thread is not inherently a topic ban violation, as it is an attempt to seek clarification on the topic ban itself. Using this thread as a platform to comment about the AE thread would be, but that hasn't happened yet. ~ ]<sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">]</sup> 02:14, 14 September 2018 (UTC) | ||
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Clarification request: Genetically modified organisms
Initiated by David Tornheim at 23:40, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
- Case or decision affected
- Genetically modified organisms arbitration case (t) (ev / t) (w / t) (pd / t)
List of any users involved or directly affected, and confirmation that all are aware of the request:
- David Tornheim (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) (initiator)
- Kingofaces43 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
Statement by David Tornheim
I’m sure it’s not a bad faith edit on Kingofaces43’s part; however, without having the courtesy of notifying me, Kingofaces has prominently mentioned me at this WP:AE discussion.
My question to ArbCom is this: Under the terms of my topic ban in this area, am I allowed to respond to King’s statements regarding me?
King has also prominently mentioned me with regard to my TBAN at this open WP:AN/I discussion. Am I allowed to respond there or somewhere else? Is there an appropriate venue? --David Tornheim (talk) 23:40, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
Statement by Kingofaces43
I don't think much else needs to be said aside from that this filing or following the AE case is a violation of David's GMO topic ban. That's in part why they weren't pinged or alerted, which considering their topic ban, could have been considered pointy, grave-dancing, baiting, etc. if I had done so. The case also wasn't particularly relevant to David (no new sanctions being imposed on them) aside from me saying here's an example of pretty parallel behavior that got people topic-banned in the topic. People aren't always familiar with the GMO aspersions principle and the history of it, so examples of past issues with it at AE are helpful for admins who haven't followed the topic.
Either way, the topic ban was supposed to keep David out of this topic. I'm not sure why he thinks it would be ok to comment in an AE case on GMOs. If anything, it feels in similar territory as this AE case by another topic-banned editor with the take home message being that topic-banned editors should know better than to involve themselves in GMO DS issues unless it's to appeal their topic ban. We had problems at ANI with David violating their topic ban recently as well as concerns in this ANI thread of vexatious use of admin boards to proxy battleground behavior from the GMO topic. I chose to ignore it at that time after removing their initial topic-ban violation, but if this behavior continues and an admin doesn't call David out for that, it seems like a pretty straightforward subject to bring to AE. This venue's not really needed for that though, so I'm not sure what arbs could say here other than steer clear of the topic if anything. Kingofaces43 (talk) 00:53, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
Statement by Tryptofish
It seems to me that if anyone proposes any kind of sanctions or other actions against David, anywhere, David has every right to respond, anywhere – but that's not what's going on here. Pointing to a past case involving him does not require a response from him; the past case stands unless there is a successful appeal. And there certainly is the appearance that he has been following editors against whom he has a grudge following his GMO topic ban: link. --Tryptofish (talk) 01:12, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
Statement by {other-editor}
Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should opine whether and how the Committee should clarify or amend the decision or provide additional information.
Genetically modified organisms: Clerk notes
- This area is used for notes by the clerks (including clerk recusals).
Genetically modified organisms: Arbitrator views and discussion
- That AE thread is not about you, so no, you may not comment on it. This thread is not inherently a topic ban violation, as it is an attempt to seek clarification on the topic ban itself. Using this thread as a platform to comment about the AE thread would be, but that hasn't happened yet. ~ Rob13 02:14, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
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