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	:] has undeleted them. As I said to him, I'm not going to delete them again, I'll just let my reasoning stand for itself and someone else can act if they like. I will have to disagree with you about these templates. I'm sure that blocking and protection can be used in many cases where a user is removing warnings, for example if a vandal is blanking warnings to confuse future RC patrollers (I'd block them myself in that case). But the problem with the templates is that they imply a universal approach, and policy status, when that is simply not the case. I've expressed these reasons ] and ]. How would you respond to those arguments? --] (]) 06:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)		:] has undeleted them. As I said to him, I'm not going to delete them again, I'll just let my reasoning stand for itself and someone else can act if they like. I will have to disagree with you about these templates. I'm sure that blocking and protection can be used in many cases where a user is removing warnings, for example if a vandal is blanking warnings to confuse future RC patrollers (I'd block them myself in that case). But the problem with the templates is that they imply a universal approach, and policy status, when that is simply not the case. I've expressed these reasons ] and ]. How would you respond to those arguments? --] (]) 06:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

			:Also, please note that you are incorrect about the contents of ]. While the concept that user talk pages should be used as a 'rap sheet' / 'wall of shame' for past warnings ''has'' been inserted into that policy multiple times it has been removed just as many because there was never a consensus in support of such a change. What you describe as a "well known and accepted practice" is, in fact, strongly opposed as blockable harassment by a large number of admins... as can be seen in the current AN discussions noted above. --] 12:03, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

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Vandalism??

What vandalism? How dare you accuse me of vandalism! Show me the vandalism! 71.213.73.51 10:31, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

help!

I accidentally blanked half the Robin Hood article. I know you fixed it when I did this to the Star Wars article. Can you tell me how to fix it? Thank you.

TS Edit Test

re: Unicornscan article deletion

I noticed that you have deleted the Unicornscan. Could you please point me to some justification of this?

Continuing the discussion...

On your talk page this time. You stated: "your current vote likely will confuse the hell out of a lot of users..." How many users who voted support actually understand the C# code TawkerBotTorA is written in ? Jcam

Retrieval

Would it be possible to retrieve the article somehow? I couldn't figure that out from the deletion history. Thanks

no offence

Are you a wiki freak???!?!? Your making me scared!

NO OFENCE!

Vandalbot mistake

Hello! The vandalbot tagged me as a vandal by mistake; I think that it may be because I forgot to sign a comment on WP:AIV but other than that I am pretty sure that I am not a vandal! (aeropagitica) 20:45, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Benton Academy

Sorry - I'll fix according to your comments.

Why was this deleted???

I did not have time to add the hangon tag to this page after it was marked. I had made links from the Benton, Mississippi page (the reference was there, I just added link capability. I was also referenced under [[List of high schools in Mississippi ]]. Again I just added the link ability. I seem to remember two links being a qualifying parameter. I also have about 200 words of text to be added. There are several additional schools in the same catagory listed on Misplaced Pages indluding Trinity Episcopal Day School, Southaven High School, Jim Hill High School and several others.

Get AntiVandalBot working again. Now.

Yes, even if it means taking it off the toolserver and going back to the old way of doing things. Vandals are blanking pages left, right and centre – Gurch 19:05, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedy response – Gurch 19:31, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Someone blocked toolserver. It happens once in a while. Oh, Tawker: this edit's for you.. ~Kylu (u|t) 05:55, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Check other modifications by same user with bot

Is there any way you could do this? Often, a user who had a change reverted by the bot also performed many other vandalizations. If the bot could check through the user's edits, it would help clear out vandalism even faster.

Thank you for supporting my RfA

Thank you for your support in my RfA, which passed with a final tally of (56/0/2). It was great to see so much kind support from such competent editors and administrators as commented on my RfA.

I know I have much reading to do before I'll feel comfortable enough to use some of the more powerful admin tools, so I'll get right to it.

Again, thanks; _└ / _talk 13:43, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

WP:BRFA request

Hi - I've left a message here regarding a very short trial I ran for the pluralisation system. Thanks, M a rtinp23 20:45, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Responding

Hi Tawker. Here are the templates I use for the warnings:

==Editing Concerns==

#{{subst:test1}} ~~~~

#{{subst:test2}} ~~~~

#{{subst:test3}} ~~~~

#{{subst:test4}} ~~~~

Each has text and symbols, based on common use for many RC patrollers. Thanks for considering my suggestion. Kukini 02:39, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

The thing is we don't want to give the standard warnings - they sound way too much like a human is doing it - I'm well aware of test1-4, and of course the much more useful test5 :) - I think I'll work on another custom warning -- Tawker 04:29, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you...

...for your support of my recent RfA. I have always been a fan of your work as a Wikiepedian, so I especially honored by your vote of confidence. If I can be of any use to you, just drop me a line. BTW, congrats on getting to live in the Couv, one of the most beautiful cities on earth. We should all be so lucky. Cheers. youngamerican (ahoy hoy) 19:28, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: LOL

Well, I did unblock myself, which I guess is ok in this situation. It is pretty funny, and I'm glad that I'm not the only one who does that either. Strange things can happen while trying to keep up with all the vandalism. Am I the only one who feels like there is more vandalism than usual today? And I am reverting only the edits of the users that AntiVandalBot catches. Academic Challenger 22:43, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

How to get a regular vandal blocked

I am writing about user 82.94.28.98 who has had repeated warnings about vandalism. Recently (s)he has been very busy vandalizing the article on "coolies". I don't know how to contact an administrator to deal with this person. Would you please help me with this problem? Many thanks, John Hill 22:45, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Monitor pages

Hey Tawker, remember how on your RfA you responded to my comments almost instantly, then told me you have a bot monitoring that page? Do you still happen to have a copy of that bot? Cheers. +Hexagon1 04:19, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

small favor

I was wondering of you could help me out with getting votes for expanding an article I started a while back. My old US Australia relations article is currently being considered for expansion by the Misplaced Pages:Australian Collaboration of the Fortnight. To vote, go here and scroll to the bottom.

Thanks! Sharkface217 05:09, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

November Esperanza Newsletter

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The last AC meeting (full log)
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Vandal Bot Code

Hi Tawker, I help administer a wiki and am interested in this AntiVandalBot. Is it possible to make a Vandal Bot that doesnt rely us on installing it on Unix? For example, it would be nice it works as a MediaWiki extension. Any pointers on that? Thank. --ApplePie3 01:11, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Rollback

I had this idea recently: what if the rollback privilege was assigned to the antivandalism bots? Would that help TawkerBot2 & Co.? I believe it's not impossible to get the community consensus for this, since the objections raised in WP:RFR do not apply to bots. Of course, there is no point in proposing it if there is no gain for the bots. Tizio, Caio, Sempronio 18:42, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Yep, that would reduce our load on the servers a bit. It's a good thing (tm) ;) -- Tawker 18:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Laid out a section I intend to propose to the village pump at User:Tizio/Sandbox. Feel free to add/remove/correct if you like. Tizio, Caio, Sempronio 19:20, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Template:Wr

With all due respect I think I'll have to dispute your speedy of this one. Removing warnings is considered vandalism per VAND and it is a well known and accepted practice to block / protect user talk pages of users who constantly remove it. I must ask that you restore it..... -- Tawker 05:13, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Eagle has undeleted them. As I said to him, I'm not going to delete them again, I'll just let my reasoning stand for itself and someone else can act if they like. I will have to disagree with you about these templates. I'm sure that blocking and protection can be used in many cases where a user is removing warnings, for example if a vandal is blanking warnings to confuse future RC patrollers (I'd block them myself in that case). But the problem with the templates is that they imply a universal approach, and policy status, when that is simply not the case. I've expressed these reasons here and here. How would you respond to those arguments? --bainer (talk) 06:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Also, please note that you are incorrect about the contents of WP:VAND. While the concept that user talk pages should be used as a 'rap sheet' / 'wall of shame' for past warnings has been inserted into that policy multiple times it has been removed just as many because there was never a consensus in support of such a change. What you describe as a "well known and accepted practice" is, in fact, strongly opposed as blockable harassment by a large number of admins... as can be seen in the current AN discussions noted above. --CBD 12:03, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

For removing the vandalism on my talk page, and quick work in dealing with the vandal. I was posting a report on AIV when you bagged it. Cheers! Tony Fox (arf!) 07:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)