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Linkspam

Hi Katie,

While I do admire your desire to clean up Misplaced Pages pages, I think you are deleting a lot of perfectly useful external links. If an external link is relevant to the topic, at least somewhat well-designed and provides information that either differs from the content on the Misplaced Pages page and/or is in a more user friendly format, it is NOT spam. Simply deleting links because you don't like them goes against the spirit of the Misplaced Pages. By all means, please delete real spam but please let relevant links stay. Thanks! Stageagent 05:17, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello - thanks for the message. I did not delete the ELs because I "don't like" them. It's not a question of "like" or "don't like" or "love" or "hate." The External links and Spam policies are pretty clear to me. A few ELs, perhaps at musical theatre and play and opera, would probably be okay. 35 such links, at every article about every musical? Not so much.
More importantly, there's an official guideline about linking to your own site, and it's there because if every registered Misplaced Pages user started adding ELs pointing to their own site, or even just to his or her favorite site, the credibility of the encyclopedia would vanish.
Try this hypothetical: The New York Times decides to do yet another article on Misplaced Pages's veracity, and this time their gaze falls on our coverage of theatre. The reporter digs through the articles and the edit history of Oklahoma! and Annie and others, sees the ELs to stageagent.com, and finds that User:Stageagent put them in. What do you think the headline of the story would be? I promise it won't be "Misplaced Pages thoroughly covers theatre". Instead, it's going to be something like "Wikipedians drive Internet traffic to pet sites", it's going to prominently mention this little episode somewhere above the fold, and once again the encyclopedia will be subjected to stories about the supposedly foul intentions of Wikignomes and admins alike, registered or anonymous.
That's why I deleted the ELs to stageagent.com. I'm not one of those editors who get into editing conflicts and revert wars, so rest assured you won't find me deleting them again. My objection is on the record, and if others disagree with me, I'm perfectly fine with it. I think your site is useful, but I _don't_ think that 30+ links to it from Misplaced Pages is appropriate. It's not personal at all, and I hope you understand that. Thanks again for the message. KrakatoaKatie 05:53, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
(cross-posted to User talk:Stageagent and User talk:KrakatoaKatie)

Thank you for supporting my RfA

Thank you for your support in my RfA, which passed with a final tally of (56/0/2). It was great to see so much kind support from such competent editors and administrators as commented on my RfA.

I know I have much reading to do before I'll feel comfortable enough to use some of the more powerful admin tools, so I'll get right to it.

Again, thanks;   / talk  13:17, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

The contributed article

Mam I was awarded Ph.D. degree by Agra University ,Agra(INDIA) in 1994 on my work on"Major Themes in the Novels of W.Somerset Maugham. My present article is based on the research i've made under the guidence of Dr.V.K.Singhal,Head-K.R.College , Mathura. Kindly give it a place here.

Mamtash 05:43, 3 November 2006 (UTC)MamtashMamtash 05:43, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you...

...for your support of my RfA. If I can ever be of serivce with my shiney new buttons or just to look at an article, please do not hesitate to ask. BTW, I do apologize, as many of the spelling mistakes that you have corrected were likely mine :) youngamerican (ahoy hoy) 17:53, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

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RfA thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA discussion! I appreciate you contributing your voice to the debate and its outcome. I hope how I wield the mop makes you proud. Thanks!— Saxifrage


Thank you for your support!

Se la face ay pale, la cause est...
Se la face ay pale, la cause est...

23:42, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

If I'm a bit pale in the face now,
it's because of the amazing support
during my recent request for adminship
and because of all those new shiny buttons.

And if in the future
my use of them should not always be perfect
please don't hesitate to shout at me
any time, sunset, noon or sunrise.

editor review

Hello KrakatoaKatie

Many thanks for taking the time to comment on my editing.

  • re: Many edits
    • Many edits are associated with the creation of a family tree (see servilius). I did this work in a user page sandbox section before releasing the page. This is preposterously painstaking as it is done by hand. I have previewed numerous times before saving, but feel the need to save after relatively few steps just so I don't risk losing my work. Am I maybe missing some tool to make this easier?
    • More edits are associated with the set of tables added to the moneyer page. Here I did most of the work off-line, the wiki-formatting in my sandbox, then a page creation. Again, any tricks I may have missed?
    • Many edits are also just me making links to pages I have found useful for one thing or another (style, etc) I have had a fair bit of trouble following the Style documentation; a lot of stuff is said in similar ways on multiple pages, etc.
  • I believe I have fixed the tables.
  • Reference Style: I chose the following scheme:
    • a references section for citing a book or multi-volume reference work or article in a journal.
    • A particular footnote then links a statement in my text with a page or pages or section within the reference.
    • footnotes to Harvard Referencing rather than Harvard referencing directly because I have rather a lot of citations and the flow was really getting interrupted.
  • Reference Style: This was one of the main reasons I asked for a review. I really wasn't sure what I should be doing and the documentation was not helping me. I was hoping to get more specific input on this so I could improve it before going on.
    • I notice that few articles in WP (even featured ones) contain citations down to the page number (a surprisingly large fraction don't link to printed works at all?)
    • What level should I cite to? I provided references for things I considered possibly surprising (or contradictory to the original article)
    • What level of detail should a citation contain? ie. are page numbers required? excessive? ??
    • How should multi-volume works be handled in Harvard referencing?
    • How should individual articles in a collection (Festschriften are common in numismatics) be referred to in Harvard referencing?
    • Is there any expert I can go to for specific detailed advice on citations in wikipedia?

Curtius 03:35, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Katie, thanks a lot for your support and very flattering words to my RFA... Even though we have not interacted in the past, I have seen you around quite a lot. You have contributed a lot in a very little time!! Do let me know if I can be of any assistance at all -- Lost 12:10, 9 November 2006 (UTC)