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Roland (L) battles Marsile (R), black “heathen” Saracen king in the Song of Roland. Courtesy of Grandes Chroniques de France, Bibliothèque Nationale Roland (L) battles Marsile (R), black “heathen” Saracen king in the Song of Roland. Courtesy of Grandes Chroniques de France, Bibliothèque Nationale
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Interesting video, pretty much showing the ridiculousness of showing all the moors as white, the way they are portrayed on this Misplaced Pages page. "African Conquerors of Spain: The Moors", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hISBst26ZGE ] (]) 13:42, 5 January 2019 (UTC)


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More on the depiction of The Moors as White Only

In Europe, Moor means dark, black or swarthy, i.e. more black than say the average Spaniard or Italian. Here are some depictions of Black people you will not see on Misplaced Pages. https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/326792516685206069/?lp=true 83.84.100.133 (talk) 14:46, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

More images of Blackamoors in the Middle Ages. You can add these at will. 83.84.100.133 (talk) 16:02, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Black-a-Moor nobles playing chess and being waited upon by servants, from The Book of Games by Alfonso X in the 13th century https://pdjeliclark.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/book-of-games-alfonso-x-13th-century.jpg

Roland (L) battles Marsile (R), black “heathen” Saracen king in the Song of Roland. Courtesy of Grandes Chroniques de France, Bibliothèque Nationale https://pdjeliclark.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/song-of-roland.gif

Interesting video, pretty much showing the ridiculousness of showing all the moors as white, the way they are portrayed on this Misplaced Pages page. "African Conquerors of Spain: The Moors", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hISBst26ZGE 83.84.100.133 (talk) 13:42, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Depiction of Moors

I will include a gallery of the moors of the Early Modern Ages, a paintings of the time, there are existing in the world strangelly just a few, and more few in the commons, i will add exacty 6 images , 4 from morocco, and 2 from middle east. it shows the large variation of etchnic that were part of the moors until early mniddle ages.

The article also try to found a description of the ethnic moors. well, the images gives a more clear aswer of that. if you see the artcile half of this is about try to found that.

the artcile is called moors, but it not clear how the moors look. who were the moors. its just a galley. remember that moors dont disappear after the middle ages. so what is the problem to add that--BrugesFR (talk) 23:45, 1 July 2018 (UTC)


Per, Misplaced Pages:NOETHNICGALLERIES, "Articles about ethnic groups or similarly large human populations should not be illustrated by a photomontage or gallery of images of group members." --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:55, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
@BrugesFR: remember that moors dont disappear after the middle ages Nobody said that they have, but if one were to apply that kind of logic, 21st century pictures of Maghrebis will do just as well (clearly, a non acceptable proposition regardless of how you look at it). I will revert your edit and ask you politely not to revert again (you've made 8 edits so far, so I'll be very careful if I were you). M.Bitton (talk) 00:02, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
@M.Bitton: 8 edits? do you counted i just revert one or two. is not the same all people know how now magherbis look like, i beside only included famous people. morishg empires continues to exists in the early-modern agest, not finished in medieval times. now not exist maoorish but are divided in maghrebis and arabs. its different, its like to say celtics and spaniards. they are different people that were in the same country at diferent times--BrugesFR (talk) 00:09, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
but if they were a clear painting that how to look like the celts why not to add that--BrugesFR (talk) 00:11, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
@BrugesFR: Did you read the article posted by Kansas Bear? M.Bitton (talk) 00:12, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes before but this not appy because the is a defunct denomination, no there not a region called "of the moors" or "moorish" there are not 20th century moors but other denominated regions of peoples--BrugesFR (talk) 00:16, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
In other words, you don't agree with these two RFCs. In that case, I suggest you start a new new one. M.Bitton (talk) 00:20, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
One this is Moroccans or English people and other is celtics, ancien-egiptians, ancient-romans, the leatter is a active discussion i just help to solving add images of the time representing all the etnics that cvomposed the moors--BrugesFR (talk) 00:25, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

You pretty much are making a solid case for why the RFCs were needed in the first place, but like I said, don't let that stop you, feel free to challege them at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ethnic_groups. M.Bitton (talk) 00:30, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

  • I've removed the gallery. Please state here a rationale before adding it back. Images in Misplaced Pages articles should support or illustrate things that are written about and add significantly to the reader's understanding. --John (talk) 13:27, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

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An edit summary led me to check the most likely North American granted the heraldry, who is Daniel C. Boyer. A quick search led to User:Daniel C. Boyer who was blocked for adding his name everywhere he could. And has been socking continually since. I've done a range block. Doug Weller talk 12:11, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Good catch. I've just been reading up on Boyer and I'll keep an eye open for him now. Pinkbeast (talk) 16:43, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
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