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Re: Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University

Done. :) Thanks for the request. Luna Santin 08:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

hi, sorry i;m abit lost as to what your message is about, who Luis is and what is not fair and honest? jpJP 10:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi, okay thanks will keep that in mind. just one questions ... who are you ?

JP 11:12, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Guess I can always rely on 244 to keep fillin my talk page. Guess I need to work on my own crud removal technique.] ] searchin man 03:55, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

jps reply

Greetings, okay, to answer your questions. A) yes it is know that they make this assumption of that date and i am aware. you should read my discussion section in the bkwsu archive. it answers alot of your questions. "sekak ram stuff" is fabricated. not much more that i can say about that. the 5,000 year cycle is told to all, depending on how respective they. dinosaurs the bkwsu does not talk about dinosaurs. channeling does not take place, another sprite enters and speak. this used happen alot in the old day inthe east when people passed away and it happens today but not very often now. another person can invoke the spirit into there body,depending if that spirit wishes to come back. its a bit like that.

you have to remember what the bkwsu teaches is not scientific truth. its a spiritual philosophy, there and difference. spiritual knowledge is there is be used and applied in general life situations. people get caught up into the expansion of detail, thats apart of todays culture. scientific knowledge is to there to know and if it helps create new inventions and understanding of reality. don't get mixed up between the two. You would enjoy this dvd/book called "what the bleep to we know" it's about quantum physics, not many people are aware of it.

i hope you are happy with this. 

all the best JP 16:31, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

== jps reply to reply

okay i think your completely correct on all the issues and i have been wrong. so what does this mean now? you/pbks win? we all say bkwsu are evil? would they be working with the UN, won peace price and the rest of there achievements the pbks,what achievements have they achieved apart from saying how much better they are then bkwsu. they should at least do something more. people are not going to judge an organization based on what they say, but what they do. u just need to see the JAM project, server the world mediation programs they hold etc. you know it's all well and good saying we are great, better etc etc these lot are basic etc. are pbks serving the community?

i first starting posting because i thought people misinterpreted the bkwsu philosophy. then after answering all there questions with logical answers, i come to realize they that people have there own agenda, my advice to you is to spend 10 min in the evening or morning just simply learning to relax, you can do this at home. and then also write about your feelings towards things. all this will help you to let go of hurts you have taken from bkwsu, but also from other areas of life. dont reply back saying you werent a bk etc etc i dont care. just do what i am telling you to do and you will feel better for it.

JP 23:12, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

reply reply reply PR re-writes what are they? academic article about what? i have read a few academic article and most of them either have fabrication, extravagant claims, or have added extra fabrications to that what is true. most of the bad press is from former bks, who have other issues, misunderstandings etc

jesselp JP 15:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism Warning

Dear .244, You are being warned against vandalism in the Brahma Kumaris page. This is your only warning; if you vandalize Misplaced Pages again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.

Best, 72.91.4.91 13:47, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Active controversy

Hi

re:arbitration decision. I am just interested to read what constitutes a non-active controversy. I posted regarding the Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University. The contention over the use of self-published material is very current and active and I am being refused to use any by the group's members who do not want public reference to it.

I have tried for mediation with the cult/NRM member re-writing the article along the lines of their current PR. He refused to enagage. I tried via arbitration. He refused to engage again. Refusal to engage is a pretty clear tactic.

I guess I will try the RfC avenue but what happens if he refuses to engage again? 195.82.106.244 09:40, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I think I may have erred. Fred Bauder 15:23, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Dear All,

I have never refused anything. Can you show proof of that? Admin Jossi is in the Brahma Kumaris page now. He suggested the following:

1. Rather than spend so much energy in trying to cite websites from proponents and critics, the article will be better served if old-style research is done by looking into scholarly books and articles that must exist for this religion. If there are none, which I doubt, then the article needs to be reduced to the minimum or maybe deleted for lack of notability. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 01:39, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

User 195.82.106.244 "new tactic" is to get other admins attention to do whatever he likes without going through the whole issue. User .244 needs to produce reliable sources as suggested by Jossi.

Thank you. avyakt7 15:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Dear .244, "The free press and self-published BKWSU sources are all citable. It is as simple as that." Those are not reliable sources. As simple as that. Best Wishes, 72.91.4.91 16:13, 15 November 2006 (UTC)