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Venkateswara

I undid your addition of Vengadam to Venkateswara as it was unsourced. The source mentions Venkata, but not Vengadam.
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Don't link common words such as nation / nationality. See above link. --RHcosm (talk) 08:54, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

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1. The Life of Hinduism. University of California Press. 2006. p. 233. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |authors= ignored (help)

Talk:Kulottunga I/GA1

The review has been started up again by the reviewer; you will want to see what they added, and respond to it. (You were pinged, but under your old account name, so I've posted here to let you know about it.) Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 01:43, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset: Thanks for the heads-up. I've added the Review page to my watchlist. Nittawinoda (talk) 16:16, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

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Muthuraja

Muthuraja or Mutharaiyar are Tamil Caste around Trichy Region TamilNadu.Cannot confuse Mudiraj.Mudiraj is a Telugu caste around Telangana. Not relation between Muthurja and Mudiraj.Muthuraja is a King of Mutharaiyar Dynastry AD600 to AD1000.But Mudiraj main occupation is fishing.So cannot merge to Mudiraj and Muthuraja. And Paluvattaraiyar is Not a kerala this is a Ariyalur District TamilNadu so cannot remove the Paluvettaraiyar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkalaiarasan86 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Jkalaiarasan86:, you need to provide sources to show that Muthuraja are same as Paluvettaraiyar or the relation if any between the two commmunities. Misplaced Pages is not your personal blog, so your personal beliefs do not matter here. Please see WP:VERIFY. So until you come up with references, the Paluvettaraiyar section will continued to be challenged and removed. According to the Anbil plates of Sundara Chola, the Paluvettaraiyar originated from Kerala. Please refer source . Now it is your turn to come up with references. Nittawinoda (talk) 07:05, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

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Thirumangai alvar

@Nittawinoda: thirumangai alvar is Kallar right.But not a Kallar caste. cannot confuse Kallar(Thief) and Kallar caste.He was stolen by his intention to serve his devotees.ok but thirumangai alvar caste is Mutharaiyar --Jkalaiarasan86 (talk) 03:25, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

@Jkalaiarasan86: Source for "Kallar caste" . So maintain neutral version. Nittawinoda (talk) 03:35, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Udaiyar

Why do you mess up a lot of articles and the caste 106.203.29.94 (talk) 07:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

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January 2019

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• If you revert again any time soon at Vanniyar you will be in big trouble, although frankly you already should be given the alert above and you clear unwillingness to follow a host of policies, guidelines and common practises, eg: WP:OR, WP:RS, WP:NPOV, WP:BRD and WP:NPA. Sitush (talk) 16:44, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

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Template:Z33 Per your recent edits to Vanniyar. Usually there is no trouble if you are patient enough to wait for consensus first. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 16:53, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

@EdJohnston: - Hello Admin, Sitush (talk · contribs) and his cronies are pushing their POV on article Vanniyar. Sitush has simply removed all my edits to the article terming it as caste glorification. Sitush is all ok for accepting sources that favor his POV while he terms my sources as unreliable when the sources present a view contrary to his opinion.Recently I added a view as stated by Dr. Gustav Solomon Oppert but then he termed as unreliable supposedly because it belongs to the colonial period. On the other hand he is ok with adding material by various historians who based their views on events that transpired during the colonial era if they agree with his view point. The general modus operandi of Sitush seems to be forcing an edit war where he forces other user to revert an article back and forth and then immediately goes and tattletales to some admin regarding the edit war. What kind of spirit is Misplaced Pages promoting? Nittawinoda (talk) 17:00, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Sitush is very familiar with the sourcing issues on caste articles and his recommendations are often respected by administrators. Gustav Solomon Oppert did most of his work in the nineteenth century, and that sometimes is flagged as an issue for caste articles. If you think that Oppert's work has modern scholarly credibility and want to appeal you could consider the WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. EdJohnston (talk) 17:17, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Vanniyar

However looking at your edit, it seems to me it is a tad non sequitish, what does this add to the article we need to know?Slatersteven (talk) 17:47, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Also comment on content not user motivations, raising POV does your cause no good.Slatersteven (talk) 17:48, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

@Slatersteven: Dr. Oppert's view lends credence to the opinion that the Pallis(aka Vanniyar) are the Pallavas. Thanks Nittawinoda (talk) 17:56, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

See if you can find a copy of Untouchability: A Historical Study Upto 1500 A.D. : with Special Reference to Tamil Nadu, it has this "higher class Pallavas who accepted Cola sovereignty and joined the ranks of the Cola army came to be designated as Pallis".Slatersteven (talk) 18:09, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

This ] covers it quite well, it is certainly a claim they have made, and I think can be added.Slatersteven (talk) 18:14, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Your first example is WP:OR with regard to the actual article; your second is not reliable. It really isn't helpful spreading this stuff all over umpteen forums. - Sitush (talk) 20:58, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

So it does not say that?Slatersteven (talk) 15:23, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Warning

Hi, Nittawinoda. I have answered your question on my talkpage, but I'd probably better post the warning part of it here as well, to make sure you see it. I'm sorry to say your argument shows a depth of incomprehension. If you continue to edit the article based on such stuff, you will soon find yourself banned or blocked. Please listen better when experienced editors such as Sitush try to explain Misplaced Pages's rules and principles to you. Stop using offensive, bad-faith-assuming edit summaries, and stop accusing good-faith editors of vandalism or talking about "cronies" (without the slightest evidence) and nonsense like that. Have a read of our no personal attacks and civility policies. Bishonen | talk 13:26, 26 January 2019 (UTC).

@Bishonen: - you need to stop throwing your weight around and review my edit to the Vanniyar that started the edit-war. Atleast one other editor Slatersteven (talk · contribs) thinks that the source is good enough to be used as a reference here Misplaced Pages:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Is_Gustav_Solomon_Oppert_work_a_reliable_source_?. The quantity of edits does not make someone a good contributor and I've seen enough edits of Sitush (talk · contribs) to know that he is pushing a POV. If you continue to harass me or threaten me with a block, I will have to take this issue to higher authorities as you seem to be in collusion with Sitush (talk · contribs). The modus operandi clearly seems to be Sitush forcing the opponent to revert an article back and forth and then asking for your help to block or ban the editor and then you stepping in under the pretext of restoring normalcy by blocking the opponent. Nittawinoda (talk) 11:24, 27 January 2019 (UTC)