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| Firstly I want to apologize for my dificulties for keeping cool and follow the procedures. Randroide put me in the PAIN page so I was forced to react. Now has been accusing me in Durova page so I defended. Yesterday I had with Durova the next exchange : | Firstly I want to apologize for my dificulties for keeping cool and follow the procedures. Randroide put me in the PAIN page so I was forced to react. Now has been accusing me in Durova page so I defended. Yesterday I had with Durova the next exchange : | ||
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| I do not want to take any more iniciative without you consent. I fact, you seem to be a balanced person with patience so perhaps is better if you manage the RFC thing. For me, Misplaced Pages is not only the english wikipedia but the world class wikipedia so it should be not so dificult to get rid of El Mundo as a source since is a local Spanish newspaper saying extravangant and unsupported things that are not reflected in any world class media. However I let you the decision of how to proceed. I think we can show who is Pedro J but I do not know if showing who is him and why is doing all this would be enough. --] 12:14, 13 November 2006 (UTC) | I do not want to take any more iniciative without you consent. I fact, you seem to be a balanced person with patience so perhaps is better if you manage the RFC thing. For me, Misplaced Pages is not only the english wikipedia but the world class wikipedia so it should be not so dificult to get rid of El Mundo as a source since is a local Spanish newspaper saying extravangant and unsupported things that are not reflected in any world class media. However I let you the decision of how to proceed. I think we can show who is Pedro J but I do not know if showing who is him and why is doing all this would be enough. --] 12:14, 13 November 2006 (UTC) | ||
| Hi,Randroide is editing articles about cars compulsively to be able of accusing me of working only in 11-M. Should we wait or should we proceed with RFC?. --] 16:03, 16 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Hi, Southofwatford. I have to say that I admire your coolness in dealing with these nutjobs. A question: Why are the other users supporting them that much? Don't they stand out to them as a bunch of conspiracy theory weirdos and extremsits?
I think without having familiarity with the sources they use, its difficult for people to make that kind of judgement. Coolness? I don't know, I just want to see Misplaced Pages have a credible article on this subject - at the moment it doesn't have that. --Southofwatford 14:15, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Hola. Te pido disculpas por lo que dije sobre ti. El que yo me sintise atacado personalmente no era motivo para atacarte a ti, ni siquiera en la forma indirecta en lo que lo hice.
Te propongo que borremos todos los ataques personales y que empecemos de nuevo.
Sé que el asunto que tratamos es muy polémico y trágico, y entiendo que todos a veces digamos cosas de las que luego nos arrepintamos.
Un saludo. Randroide 12:40, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Hola. Pongo en tu conocimiento que la "protección" del artículo sobre los atentados de Madrid era falsa. Si se vuelve a poner por un usuario anónimo o por un no-administrador, podemos y debemos quitarla sin más . Un saludo Randroide 11:59, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Randroide 19:14, 10 October 2006 (UTC)Hola, Southofwatford. A ver si en castellano nos entendemos mejor. Te voy a hacer unas preguntas porque me paece que no acabo de entenderte.
Contesta meditando mucho lo que escribes, por favor. Es importante que nos comuniquemos correctamente:
1.¿Aceptas en general a "EL Mundo" como una fuente válida (quizás con algunas excepciones sobre las que te pregunto más adelante) para el artículo sobre los atentados del 11-M en Madrid?.
2. En caso afirmativo en la pregunta 1: ¿Estas en desacuerdo SÓLO con mi propuesta de inclusión de ALGUNOS artículos de "El Mundo"
3. En caso afirmativo en la pregunta 2: ¿Con cuáles estas en desacuerdo y porqué razones?.
4. ¿Se extienden tus objeciones a noticias publicadas en "La Razón" y "The Guardian"?.
Muchas gracias por tu atención.
Randroide 19:50, 10 October 2006 (UTC) Vale. Gracias por tu pronta respuesta.
3. En caso afirmativo en la pregunta 2: ¿Con cuáles estas en desacuerdo y porqué razones?.
- Cuando tienen información claramente incorrecta, o cuando tienen titulares que no corresponden con el contenido, o cuando tienen afirmaciones sin evidencia.
- ¿Puedes por favor ponerme ejemplos de lo que consideras "información claramente incorrecta"?. Aquel ejemplo de edición de respuestas en la Comisión del 11-M NO me parece un ejemplo de esto.
- ¿Puedes darme ejemplos de titulares que no corresponden con el contenido y de afirmaciones sin evidencia
4. ¿Se extienden tus objeciones a noticias publicadas en "La Razón" y "The Guardian"?.
Si, también - aunque hay que distinguir entre artículos donde la información no estaba disponible en el momento (en los días despues de los atentados) y los que si han tenido acceso a datos correctos.
¿Aceptas los mismos stándares para todos los periódicos que se citen en le artículo?.
Un saludo y hasta mañana. Ahora creo que empezamos a entendernos.Randroide 19:50, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
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Hi Southofwatford,
Firstly I want to apologize for my dificulties for keeping cool and follow the procedures. Randroide put me in the PAIN page so I was forced to react. Now has been accusing me in Durova page so I defended. Yesterday I had with Durova the next exchange : http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Durova#11-M I do not want to take any more iniciative without you consent. I fact, you seem to be a balanced person with patience so perhaps is better if you manage the RFC thing. For me, Misplaced Pages is not only the english wikipedia but the world class wikipedia so it should be not so dificult to get rid of El Mundo as a source since is a local Spanish newspaper saying extravangant and unsupported things that are not reflected in any world class media. However I let you the decision of how to proceed. I think we can show who is Pedro J but I do not know if showing who is him and why is doing all this would be enough. --Igor21 12:14, 13 November 2006 (UTC) Hi,Randroide is editing articles about cars compulsively to be able of accusing me of working only in 11-M. Should we wait or should we proceed with RFC?. --Igor21 16:03, 16 November 2006 (UTC)