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{{ping|Ozzie10aaaa}} I'm going to question this revert: "Reverted to revision 881309900 by Himomitsmedannyb (talk): Article is being published will reflect these changes and more in a few days". Could you clarify? Is the article essentially now locked? Will "peer review" be required to make further non-trivial changes to it? I'm trying not to overreact, and I'm not concerned about my recent edits, rather the general principle that this seems wholly contrary to the spirit of Misplaced Pages. I had assumed that when the Med Project journal published something that just meant a peer-reviewed copy was archived elsewhere for reference, but this seems not to be the case here? ] <small>(])</small> 00:21, 12 February 2019 (UTC) {{ping|Ozzie10aaaa}} I'm going to question this revert: "Reverted to revision 881309900 by Himomitsmedannyb (talk): Article is being published will reflect these changes and more in a few days". Could you clarify? Is the article essentially now locked? Will "peer review" be required to make further non-trivial changes to it? I'm trying not to overreact, and I'm not concerned about my recent edits, rather the general principle that this seems wholly contrary to the spirit of Misplaced Pages. I had assumed that when the Med Project journal published something that just meant a peer-reviewed copy was archived elsewhere for reference, but this seems not to be the case here? ] <small>(])</small> 00:21, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
:it still hasnt been published(though I suspect soon), Im not certain once the published version is placed here (see ] for example) what exactly happens..--] (]) 01:56, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

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Possible flare-up in Liberia

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This news story suggests that there may be a new flare-up in Liberia. I can't immediately find any other corroborating stories. -- The Anome (talk) 11:34, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

another... (note and now a second case -not to mention the 7 or 8 cases/fatalities in Guinea- is it just me or is this not the same outbreak continuing (instead of "flare ups"))? --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:49, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
I think these are still best characterized as flare-ups. There's no sense of these individual disease clusters starting to achieve epidemic status. -- The Anome (talk) 15:30, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

sitrep

latest WHO situation report still not out(usually every two weeks)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:56, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

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  • additionally one could add a graph,to the article, which represents the different countries (cases/fatalities) like this (many GA articles use visual/images to further illustrate a point in the article)....
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discuss

Noted. Will look at it closely. - BroVic (talk) 14:53, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
@Art LaPella: Done. Thanks for the heads-up. – BroVic (talk) 15:24, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. I should be done with my copyedit in the next 12 hours or so. I've had a tight schedule and only managed to squeeze some time to get this done. – BroVic (talk) 01:06, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
@Art LaPella:Typo fixed. Thanks. – BroVic (talk) 17:42, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for everything. Art LaPella (talk) 22:20, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Pbsouthwood (talk · contribs) 09:58, 28 October 2016 (UTC)


GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it well written?
    A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
    B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
    Lead section: OK.• • • Peter (Southwood) : 14:10, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
    Layout: OK. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 07:51, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
    Words to watch. OK. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 15:59, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
    Fiction: N/A • • • Peter (Southwood) : 14:10, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
    Lists: OK. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 07:52, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
    thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:38, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
  2. Is it verifiable with no original research?
    A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
    thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 12:39, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
    B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:
    Checking whether sources are reliable is being slowed down by some of the references not including the publisher. I will not insist on adding the publisher etc to refs, but it is good practice and reduces the risk of losing them to a dead link sometime. I am partly fixing as I find them. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 13:08, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
    thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:23, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
    There are a few bare urls among the references. If those links get broken, there is no way of knowing what the reference was, and all the material associated becomes unreferenced. This can be a real pain to fix later, so I strongly recommend fixing them now. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 14:59, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
    will do, (still working)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:17, 28 October 2016 (UTC) Done please let me know if I missed any
    Found a few dead links:
    "Ebola Reduced Lagos Hotel Patronage by 75% in 2014, Articles – THISDAY LIVE". thisdaylive.com. Retrieved 26 April 2015. deleted
    "WHO: New Ebola cases could be up to 10,000 per week in 2 months". The Huffington Post. 14 October 2014. Retrieved 14 October 2014. Done better reference
    "USAID seeking better Ebola protective gear". The Seattle Times. 6 October 2014. Retrieved 13 October 2014. Done better reference
    "Sierra Leone's main referral hospital has been overwhelmed". StarAfrica. Retrieved 1 October 2014.
    "8 Ebola suspects freed by relatives in Sierra Leone". Global Post. Xinhua. 28 May 2014. Retrieved 21 June 2014.
     Done better reference
    will replace--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 16:31, 28 October 2016 (UTC) Done
    OK so far. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 07:50, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
    C. It contains no original research:
    Within balance of probability. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 15:58, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
    D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
    thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 12:37, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
    thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 12:39, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
    B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
    Very broad in its coverage. Lots of detail, but I cannot say whether any of it is unnecessary.• • • Peter (Southwood) : 15:58, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
  4. Is it neutral?
    It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
  5. Is it stable?
    It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
    thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 12:39, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
  6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
    All good
    thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 12:35, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
    B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
    thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:09, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:

By section

Lead section:

Please check casualty figures against reference - Total suspected cases and total deaths do not tally with local cases in infobox and 1st paragraph.
Ok, this is something we went thru in the process of the covering the outbreak....1. the table at the bottom of the article reflects the numbers (not including flare-ups) since the thinking was the main outbreak was over, though there could be additional isolated cases (flare-ups) but not the mass outbreak that had been observed until then... 2. the infobox does include the flare-up numbers (however should you believe an adjustment is warranted I am open to any adjustment in text (or numbers)?....(the infobox numbers and lede numbers are the same)
The current reference gives 28616 suspected cases and 11310 deaths against 28657 and 11325 in the lede and infobox, and the totals at the bottom of the columns in the infobox are not arithmetically correct sums of the figures above them in the columns. Either there are errors, or something is missing. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 12:31, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
your correct, (it was the last two countries to have flare ups, I adjusted the numbers)... however if you look at these numbers (minus UK and Italy that are not there, but had 1 case each) and add it to youll get the number at the bottom?? (and it still does not add up)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:19, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Article title in 1st sentence not bolded. I don't understand the hidden comment referring. Per MOS:BOLDTITLE and WP:SBE, neither the article's title nor related text appears in bold. Done..
(the WP:SBE means Misplaced Pages:Superfluous_bolding_explained I have deleted the hidden comment and "bolded")
OK, sorted.
I could not find Sardinia mentioned in the reference given.
Reference added  Done
Although the epidemic is no longer out of control, flare-ups of the disease are likely to continue for some time. How long? Does this refer to some time from March 2016? Is this statement still valid?
According to this statement from WHO the answer is yes, however as time goes by the possibilities diminish (over time). That is not to say an independent new outbreak could start, however it would not be seen as a continuation of this one, I could cite this in the text if you think appropriate?
Sorry, nor expressing myself well. My point is that "for some time" is an indefinite duration with an unclear starting point. Will it still be a valid statement in 3 months, or a year, assuming no-one edits it? It would be preferable if a more definite period could be indicated, so it can be clear whether further outbreaks would be considered part of this epidemic, or a distinct later event. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 12:31, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
your correct will adjust wording, and post here..--Ozzie10aaaa (talk12:38, 28 October 2016 (UTC)......Although the epidemic is no longer out of control, flare-ups of the disease for some time were likely, however the possibility of sexually transmission of survivors to others is still possible ...this statement is true due to ...i have adjusted the wording and added a reference  Done...--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:33, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Completed • • • Peter (Southwood) : 19:49, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Overview

OK. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 13:57, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:40, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Completed • • • Peter (Southwood) : 19:51, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Epidemiology

Outbreak
  • Map of ongoing status is not dated and now shows situation after end of epidemic. Is this actually useful with current caption? Clarify status of map, preferably in caption. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 08:21, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 Done--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 08:35, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
At last flareup there would have been at least one country in yellow, indicating isolated cases. Map is all green and blue. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 16:40, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
right will adjust text--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 16:42, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
  • Age of index case is quoted as 1 year and 2 years, This looks like an error, though the sources do differ. This should be clarified so it does not appear to be misquoted. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 08:04, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
my wordsearch is temporarily off, I'm having trouble finding where it says 2 year old?--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 08:22, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, I saw that in one of the other references, not in the article. Don't worry about it. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 08:40, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
  • As the epidemic waned, following international control efforts, the 8 April 2015 edition of WHO's Ebola Situation Reports stated that a total of 30 cases were reported These references do not support the number quoted, and there is no link to 8 April ed of setrep, which probably does. It is a little confusing. If the sitrep gives 30 as the number, why are the other refs there? Also clarify if these were new cases. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 08:15, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 Done--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 08:31, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Completed • • • Peter (Southwood) : 19:50, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Guinea
 Done--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 08:39, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
  • Some paragraphs in this section mention a large number of dates, without specifying the year. It would be easier to keep track if the year was specified in the first date mentioned in any paragraph, and at any point where the year changes (I don't think this second case actually occurs, but bear it in mind in case I have missed an instance. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 08:36, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
yes I see your point and will look over that text, you are correct it is important that the reader know if it is 2014,2015 or 2016. --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 08:43, 29 October 2016 (UTC) Done
Completed • • • Peter (Southwood) : 19:53, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Sierra Leone
 Done--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 08:59, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Completed • • • Peter (Southwood) : 19:54, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Liberia
  • CDC is mentioned several times in this section. Even if there is only one CDC, most readers will not know this, particularly non-Americans. Suggest you either link first instance in the section or clarify some other way.• • • Peter (Southwood) : 09:09, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 Done--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 09:28, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Completed • • • Peter (Southwood) : 19:59, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Rest of Epidemiology

Other subsections OK. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 09:23, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:35, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Virology

OK.: • • • Peter (Southwood) : 14:06, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:35, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Transmission

  • It is not entirely clear how an Ebola outbreak starts may be true, but I cant find it in the associated reference.• • • Peter (Southwood) : 14:27, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
    have struck that text. Done
  • On 12 January, the journal Nature reported that the virus's natural host could be found by studying how bush-meat hunters interacted with the ecosystem Not really what the reference says. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 14:27, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
    it probably came from His team is studying how bush-meat hunters interact with wild ecosystems to identify factors that might be linked to the spillover of zoonotic infections such as Ebola ...(will adjust the wording)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 14:38, 28 October 2016 (UTC) Done
  • or by contact with objects recently contaminated. It would be good to clarify exactly what constitutes contamination. The impression I have so far is that it would have to be with body fluids, but not I am not an expert - just like most of the potential readers. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 14:34, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
    adjusted text ref--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 14:58, 28 October 2016 (UTC) Done
    Better now, but would by contact with objects recently contaminated with the body fluids of an actively ill, infected person be clearer? Up to you. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 07:50, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 Done--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 08:01, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Completed • • • Peter (Southwood) : 20:07, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Containment and control

thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 14:33, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Treatment

Prognosis

OK. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 15:22, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:40, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Post-Ebola syndrome

OK. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 15:22, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:40, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Level of care

OK. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 15:37, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:41, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Healthcare settings
Protective clothing

Define or link PAPR. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 15:54, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

 Done--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 16:14, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Completed • • • Peter (Southwood) : 20:11, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Healthcare workers

OK. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 15:54, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 16:14, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Experimental treatments, vaccines and testing

About 15 different vaccines were in preclinical stages of development; these included DNA vaccines, virus-like particles and viral vectors (vesicular stomatitis virus, human adenovirus, and vaccinia virus). Another 7, as yet unheard-of, vaccines (ChAd3, MVA-BNFilo, Ad26, MVA-EBOZ, rAd5, rVSV and VLP), were also being developed. Wikilink these where possible. This is pretty opaque to the lay person. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 14:45, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

 Done though not all could be wikilink (redlink)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:00, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
I have no problem with redlinks • • • Peter (Southwood) : 15:23, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
ok, added redlinks--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 00:47, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Completed • • • Peter (Southwood) : 20:11, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Outlook

Statistical measures

Define CFR again for this section or wikilink. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 14:53, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

 Done--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:07, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Completed • • • Peter (Southwood) : 20:12, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Economic effects

thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:52, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
  • in both the affected areas and throughout Africa might be improved by a slight re-ordering to both in the affected areas and throughout Africa. Original suggests two affected areas. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 10:37, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 Done--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:57, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
combined--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:58, 29 October 2016 (UTC) Done
  • Employment and the economy, it was believed, would also lead to health consequences in the long-term – cross-country interactions between income per capita and mortality rates were noted. Clarify - seems somewhat confused to me. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 10:46, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
strike text--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:02, 29 October 2016 (UTC) Done
  • In the capital, Montserrado saw a 47% decline in employment per firm in contrast to what obtained prior to the Ebola outbreak. What does Montserrado have to do with the capital? • • • Peter (Southwood) : 10:43, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
fixed--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:07, 29 October 2016 (UTC) Done
of its normal business, (per prior years)...will fix text--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:08, 29 October 2016 (UTC) Done
Completed • • • Peter (Southwood) : 20:17, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Responses

that's the term used --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:16, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
OK, then that would make a good reference for the statement. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 10:27, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
good, its already included--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 16:20, 29 October 2016 (UTC) Done
Completed • • • Peter (Southwood) : 20:18, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Criticism of WHO
  • There has been significant criticism of the WHO from some aid agencies because its response was perceived as slow and insufficient, is a bit on the weaselly side. Could this be more specific? I see it is detailed in the following text. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 10:04, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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  • The panel indicated that the response begged strong operational capacity within the WHO and as well as the aid system, if outbreaks turned into emergencies; a politically protected system for WHO emergency declarations; and strong mechanisms for the responsibility of all parties, from national governments to non-governmental organizations to UN agencies. Furthermore, mobilisation of the understanding needed to fight outbreaks would require an international structure of rules to enable access to the benefits of research, and financing to establish technology when commercial motivations were not appropriate. Can this be rewritten so the meaning is immediately clear? The rest of the paragraph might also benefit by more straightforward language. Who are the "panel", and are all instances of "they" in this paragraph referring to this panel? • • • Peter (Southwood) : 10:21, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
the panel refers to (abstract, ive got access to Science direct should the full text be needed)...they is interchangeable w/ panel...I will flesh out the text in question towards a clearer meaning--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:41, 29 October 2016 (UTC)....have changed text  Done--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:51, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Completed • • • Peter (Southwood) : 20:18, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Timeline of reported cases and deaths

yes, for the table information (in some instances we would go directly to the site of the ministry of "x,y,z country" as many times they were faster with case and mortality counts than WHO) --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 17:22, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
I suggest putting the data sources information as either a note included in the table, or if it refers to both tables, as a footnote linked from both tables. Then you would not need subsections in the timeline section. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 09:00, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
is this ok?--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 09:21, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
I was thinking of something like this:
Major Ebola virus outbreaks by country and by date – to most recent WHO / Gov update- 14 Jan 2016
Date Total Guinea Liberia Sierra Leone Sources
Cases Deaths Cases Deaths Cases Deaths Cases Deaths
14 Jan 2016 28,542 11,299 3,806 2,535 10,675 4,809 14,061 3,955
23 Dec 2015 28,542 11,299 3,806 2,535 10,676 4,809 14,061 3,955
9 Dec 2015 28,542 11,299 3,806 2,535 10,675 4,809 14,061 3,955
25 Nov 2015 28,539 11,298 3,806 2,535 10,672 4,808 14,061 3,955
11 Nov 2015 28,539 11,298 3,806 2,535 10,672 4,808 14,061 3,955
25 Oct 2015 28,539 11,298 3,800 2,534 10,672 4,808 14,061 3,955
11 Oct 2015 28,454 11,297 3,800 2,534 10,672 4,808 13,982 3,955
Note 1: Cases include confirmed, probable and suspected per the WHO, numbers are the cumulative figures as published on the given date, and due to retrospective revisions, differences between successive weekly totals are not necessarily the number of new cases that week.

Note 2: Data are from reports by the WHO Global Alert and Response Unit and the WHO's Regional Office for Africa. All numbers are correlated with UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), if available. The reports were sourced from official information from the affected countries' health ministries. The WHO has stated that the reported numbers "vastly underestimate the magnitude of the outbreak", estimating there may be three times as many cases as officially reported.

great idea--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:00, 29 October 2016 (UTC) Done--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 09:59, 29 October 2016 (UTC)....
I am not sure what should go in, so I will just add an extra full width row at the bottom and you can copy/paste the text into it. If you have a problem, let me know.• • • Peter (Southwood) : 13:43, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:46, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
  • The links to main and see also articles are both redirects, Do you prefer the names as they are? If it does not matter, I suggest using the current article names to eliminate the redirect, but not a big issue.• • • Peter (Southwood) : 16:33, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
prefer as they are (should you really think the alternative is better then i'll edit it)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 17:25, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
OK, No problem. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 08:56, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
  • With the new formatting of the tables, is there any further value in keeping the subsection Data sources? ( the information is now in the notes of the first table ) • • • Peter (Southwood) : 19:44, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
I agree, there is no reason to have that part--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 20:07, 30 October 2016 (UTC) Done
Now that there is no "Data sources" subsection, the subsection title for "tables" seems redundant. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 20:30, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
removed Done--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 20:37, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Completed • • • Peter (Southwood) : 03:59, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Notes

Why is this not a level 2 section after See also as suggested in WP:FNNR?

 Done--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 16:30, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
  • Date is the "as of" date from the reference. A single source may report statistics for multiple "as of" dates.
  • Numbers with ≥ may not be consistent due to under reporting.
Do you know what these bulleted notes refer to? • • • Peter (Southwood) : 13:56, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
since the Ebola outbreak was so fast in mortality around summer of 2014, a lot of underreporting was suspected, particularly w/ Sierra Leone 14,122 /3,955 if you notice number and the percentage is way off, it was suspected that undercounting was going on. Therefore, ≥ meant equal or greated than the number that was actually being reported. To expand, Liberia and Guinea had numbers that were in line (more or less) w/ the mortality rate though it was still suspected that in villages (or towns) that were more remote there was undercounting as well. However, in terms of Sierra Leone the numbers of cases to death never added up.--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 14:06, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Not what I meant. There are no backlinks, so which part of the text are they referring to? The tables? • • • Peter (Southwood) : 15:26, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
yes the tables... it was eventually placed at West_African_Ebola_virus_epidemic_timeline_of_reported_cases_and_deaths b/c the tables had gotten so long they needed to be shortened--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:38, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
If they are still relevant, maybe they could also go in at the bottom of the tables. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 16:14, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
the reason they were placed in a separate article was that we had too much, what was left was the basic last days of the outbreak, plus the infobox--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 16:18, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Can they be deleted? They do not seem to serve any useful purpose at present. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 19:45, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
sure, however Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Disaster management and Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Statistics might find the information useful...--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 20:03, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Does the "as of" apply to both tables?
I can't find any numbers with ≥ • • • Peter (Southwood) : 20:27, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
as of to both tables, I will remove the greater than/equal symbol--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 20:32, 30 October 2016 (UTC) Done
"as of" should then be linked from the "Date" cell of both tables, or included in the internal notes for both tables, otherwise it is not apparent what it applies to. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 04:04, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
 Done--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 04:17, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
And it looks like we are done. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 05:17, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:29, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

References

Further reading

OK • • • Peter (Southwood) : 16:21, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:36, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Completed • • • Peter (Southwood) : 20:20, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

External links

OK • • • Peter (Southwood) : 16:21, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:37, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Completed • • • Peter (Southwood) : 20:21, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

General comments

  1. This is a very big article. It is unlikely that many readers will have the interest or attention span to actually read the whole thing at a sitting. Consider splitting it at some stage. This is a big job, and not a requirement of the GA criteria. I don't require it to be done, just saying consider the possibility, particularly if you want to take it to FA at some time. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 16:40, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
    ok, I will (I'm almost done with the references)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 16:56, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
  2. I have no idea if there is a MEDMOS order for the sections for epidemics. I looked but couldn't find one. If there is I trust you will have conformed as required. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 17:08, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
    yes per Misplaced Pages:Manual_of_Style/Medicine-related_articles though as you point out there is no exact rule/blueprint--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 17:20, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
  3. I have finished the basic review. There were not many problems, and most have already been satisfactorily fixed. I will be away most of tomorrow, so will probably only be able to check back on Monday. Leave a note when you have dealt with all the outstanding items, so I know when best to start the final check. If you have any queries before that, feel free to comment here or on my talk page. Cheers,• • • Peter (Southwood) : 16:11, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
    thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 16:16, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
  4. Passed. I think I have done all the associated manual administrative edits required of the reviewer. Good work. • • • Peter (Southwood) : 06:02, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
thank you, it was a privilege to work w/ you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:27, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

notes

  1. "Latest Ebola outbreak over in Liberia; West Africa is at zero, but new flare-ups are likely to occur". World Health Organization. WHO. Retrieved 28 October 2016.
  2. "Ebola Situation Report - 23 September 2015 | Ebola". apps.who.int. WHO. Retrieved 28 October 2016.
  3. "Ebola Situation Report - 9 December 2015 | Ebola". apps.who.int. WHO. Retrieved 28 October 2016.
  4. "Ebola Situation Report - 25 November 2015 | Ebola". apps.who.int. WHO. Retrieved 28 October 2016.
  5. "Ebola Situation Report - 11 November 2015 | Ebola". apps.who.int. Retrieved 28 October 2016.
  6. "EBOLA SITUATION REPORT 28 OCTOBER 2015" (PDF). World Health Organization. 28 October 2015. Retrieved 30 October 2015.
  7. "EBOLA SITUATION REPORT 14 OCTOBER 2015" (PDF). World Health Organization. 14 October 2015. Retrieved 22 October 2015.
  8. Cite error: The named reference CDC Estimating future number of cases was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  9. Miles, Tom (22 October 2014). "Official WHO Ebola toll near 5,000 with true number nearer 15,000". Reuters. Retrieved 11 April 2015. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
  10. "Ebola virus disease, West Africa – update 22 August 2014". WHO. Retrieved 18 September 2014.
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70%

The page says that there was a case mortality rate of 70%, but the info box says that only 11,000 died out of 28,000 total cases, which is much less than 70%. Why the discrepancy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.6.161.242 (talk) 12:20, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

right, if you follow the lede the sentence following the ...slightly above 70%...indicates among hospitalized patients was 57–59%(additionally, I was looking thru the archives and sierra leone fatalities came up in discussion due to )--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 14:48, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
To the question, I can only say we did our best what with so much conflicting information. BTW, it seems a shame to me that no one ever conducted a study to make a better guess on exactly how many people got the disease and how many died. The 28,000 figure is now reported as though it is accurate while in truth thousands of cases went unreported. Every one was so afraid - people were afraid to report due to the stigma, people were afraid of going to the hospitals what with wild rumors that the hospitals were infecting people, local governments were afraid to report cases and national governments were afraid that cases were affecting their tourism and economy. The WHO was, in the beginning, part of the cover-up and not until the epidemic was well underway did they do much of anything. Gandydancer (talk) 16:44, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
exactly true--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 17:19, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Clarifying reason for reversion

@Ozzie10aaaa: I'm going to question this revert: "Reverted to revision 881309900 by Himomitsmedannyb (talk): Article is being published will reflect these changes and more in a few days". Could you clarify? Is the article essentially now locked? Will "peer review" be required to make further non-trivial changes to it? I'm trying not to overreact, and I'm not concerned about my recent edits, rather the general principle that this seems wholly contrary to the spirit of Misplaced Pages. I had assumed that when the Med Project journal published something that just meant a peer-reviewed copy was archived elsewhere for reference, but this seems not to be the case here? Espresso Addict (talk) 00:21, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

it still hasnt been published(though I suspect soon), Im not certain once the published version is placed here (see Dengue for example) what exactly happens..--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 01:56, 12 February 2019 (UTC)


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