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May Burma collapse into it's various ethnic group's states. Because 60 years of Burmese military suppression of Christian Chin, Buddhist/animist Shan, Buddhist Thai is enough. And despite their attempts to lie, cover up, obfuscate, they underestimate western people. We're well aware of what's going on, we're collecting data. And we won't forget. It's not just Muslims you do this to, it's every ethnic group in Burma. The Burmese lived in the central valley, but they've always sought to expand into other peoples land through genocide. The Shan have always lived in the hills, you are the invader, Burma. The Arakan have always dominated the coast, you are the invader, Burma. The Chin have always inhabited the mountainous jungles. You are the invader Burma. Here's a map of the Ethnic groups Burma seeks to dominate and make powerless to take their territory passed down for generations for Burmese thieves https://www.bbc.com/news/special/glow_panel/img/burma/burma_map464x585.gif <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:11, 18 December 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> May Burma collapse into it's various ethnic group's states. Because 60 years of Burmese military suppression of Christian Chin, Buddhist/animist Shan, Buddhist Thai is enough. And despite their attempts to lie, cover up, obfuscate, they underestimate western people. We're well aware of what's going on, we're collecting data. And we won't forget. It's not just Muslims you do this to, it's every ethnic group in Burma. The Burmese lived in the central valley, but they've always sought to expand into other peoples land through genocide. The Shan have always lived in the hills, you are the invader, Burma. The Arakan have always dominated the coast, you are the invader, Burma. The Chin have always inhabited the mountainous jungles. You are the invader Burma. Here's a map of the Ethnic groups Burma seeks to dominate and make powerless to take their territory passed down for generations for Burmese thieves https://www.bbc.com/news/special/glow_panel/img/burma/burma_map464x585.gif <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:11, 18 December 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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the so called permanent peoples tribunal

The "permanent peoples tribunal" ass referenced in the article is a self-declared court that is without ANY legal standing. It is run by an NGO, it is NOT "UN-backed" as the article claims, and its "proceedings" are shames by any legal standard. Among other absurdities it delivers "verdicts" without even once hearing the accused.

It is a bunch of NGO busybodies making themselves sound important. The single secondary sources given does not even support the claims attributed to it. I also doubt it qualifies as a reliable under Misplaced Pages policies.

I will therefore remove the assorted paragraph. Wefa (talk) 17:54, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

A good reference is the CIA report that estimates that between 1971 to 1983 no less than 600,000 Bangladeshi nationals from that country entered Assam, while 300,000 entered Meghalaya and about 200,000 entered Tripura. And we are supposed to believe that non entered Burma! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.195.93.225 (talk) 10:41, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

that may or may not be a good reference - if you had actually provided it. So we just have to take your word for it. And we don't. Wefa (talk) 15:31, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Rohingya reference sources

A possible reference for news and background articles -- from most major English-language media throughout the U.S., U.K, Australia, Canada, and the conflict zone -- the Rohingya Crisis News appears to post links to (and some abstracts of, or excerpts from) almost all the major English-language news stories on the Rohingya, since the current crisis began in August 2017 -- as well as numerous older stories. It claims to be "updated at least weekly."

The articles listed, and linked to, are from such basic reference sources -- across the political spectrum -- as the Associated Press, Reuters News Service, Agence France-Presse, New York Times, Wall Street Journal The Guardian, the broadcast networks BBC, CBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox News, Sky News, and the leading newspapers in the conflict region (Bangladesh, India, Thailand, Australia), and in the U.S. and Canada. (It generally avoids the more partisan, inflammatory or censored sources such as Myanmar or Arab media, though they're cited occasionally.)

It also contains some background references on the Rohingya, from major media, academic, institutional, organizational and government sources (particularly the United Nations), as well as numerous official government and NGO statements and reports (e.g.: U.S. State Dept., Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, etc.).

Although it appears to be very Rohingya-sensitive (it is apparently edited by a U.S. civil rights activist and former journalist/scholar), it also lists numerous articles reporting the denials, arguments and statements by the Myanmar government, and others largely hostile to the Rohingya. Seems fairly objective, and consistent with most current scholarship on the Rohingya. Online at: Rohingya Crisis News

~ Penlite (talk) 11:14, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Aung San Suu Kyi's Defense

The article mentions the criticisms against Aung San Suu Kyi's response to the crisis, but could possibly do more to convey her stance that combating terrorism is a top concern. In a speech, Aung San Suu Kyi claims "The danger of terrorist activities which was the initial cause of events leading to the humanitarian crisis in Rakhine remains real and present today." Aung San Suu Kyi has also claimed that many of the reports regarding the crisis are based off of misinformation, and denies some of the more serious charges on the part of human rights groups especially. NeWiley (talk) 21:13, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

The vast majority of independent sources are critical of her response to the Rohingya crisis so that's what we focus on. If you can find independent reliable sources that support her terrorism claims, then, I suppose, we could include material on that. Otherwise, what she says is not germane. --regentspark (comment) 00:09, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Once the Darling of the Western Left:

"...She said terrorism (by Muslims), not social discrimination or inequality, triggered the crisis."

As soon as Aung San Suu Kyi started resisting the Muslim attempts of colonization of her country, became nothing more than a killer and not even "germane"--- Just the elected Leader of the country currently under Muslim colonization.

The so-called "...vast majority of independent sources..." (above; by regentspark)are simply the same Appeasers of Muslims of the Left and Right. Ron Blower (talk) 07:25, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Colonization?... The Burmese have colonized and brutalized the Shan, the Chin, the Mon Khmer, The Thai, and the Rakhine for the last thousand years. They have invaded their neighbors and sought to ethnically cleanse these territories and settle them with Bamars for 500 years. They invaded the independent Arakanese kingdom shortly before the British arrived and started forcibly removing indigenous Arakanese from their land and settling them in Burman dominated areas to displace them and take over the territory.

I'm so sick and tired of you propagandist liars repeatedly trying to cover up your crimes by repeatedly trying to say oh terrorism, oh Muslim invasion. Is that why the Burmese have also done the same thing to Buddhist and Christian Shan and Chin for the last 40 years?.... Oh don't like bringing that up because the only way you can even begin to cover up Burman ethnic cleansing of natives is by focusing on the one they do to Muslims to win sympathy from westerners. Well bud, we're not stupid.

May Burma collapse into it's various ethnic group's states. Because 60 years of Burmese military suppression of Christian Chin, Buddhist/animist Shan, Buddhist Thai is enough. And despite their attempts to lie, cover up, obfuscate, they underestimate western people. We're well aware of what's going on, we're collecting data. And we won't forget. It's not just Muslims you do this to, it's every ethnic group in Burma. The Burmese lived in the central valley, but they've always sought to expand into other peoples land through genocide. The Shan have always lived in the hills, you are the invader, Burma. The Arakan have always dominated the coast, you are the invader, Burma. The Chin have always inhabited the mountainous jungles. You are the invader Burma. Here's a map of the Ethnic groups Burma seeks to dominate and make powerless to take their territory passed down for generations for Burmese thieves https://www.bbc.com/news/special/glow_panel/img/burma/burma_map464x585.gif — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:7DE1:E300:903B:1F2:AB51:A78F (talk) 02:11, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Time for edit protection

Due to the daily unsourced and/or incredibly biased -- or even derrogatory -- edits made by IPs, isn't it time for this article be protected? 187.18.107.228 (talk) 20:48, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

  1. Cai, Derek. "Aung San Suu Kyi Defends Policies Towards Rohingya Muslims". AP News. Retrieved 6 September 2018.
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