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| Sure. place the request. BUT before doing that I have a request to have the article reverted to the last version I made (see BK talk page). This is to be fair with BK. You have nothing to lose. Otherwise, I have no choice but to continue changing the page. I have not done that today to show good faith and to behave in a "gentleman" manner... tomorrow it may be different. Let me know. | Sure. place the request. BUT before doing that I have a request to have the article reverted to the last version I made (see BK talk page). This is to be fair with BK. You have nothing to lose. Otherwise, I have no choice but to continue changing the page. I have not done that today to show good faith and to behave in a "gentleman" manner... tomorrow it may be different. Let me know. | ||
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| OK. 244 I am waiting for your answer... Thanks! AVYAKT7 ] 16:40, 20 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Re: Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University and BK Followers
- ===Message for admins.===
There is a BK Follower Riveros11 that is trying any trick in the Wiki book to block any other contributor to the above page.
For the record, I have tried to engage in Discussion, formal Mediation and Arbitration and he has refused to co-join despite being informed. I have also put in a RfC for use of self-published material within the set limitation according to policy. Two admins have agreed that this is inline with policy already.
Rather than engage in discussion, Riveros appears to me to just be intimidating folk off with endless and often erroneous Vandalism accusations, including nexcomers. I am going to remove those to give the newcomers an easier ride. I have no fear that I am doing the right think. Help .. don't bite.
Within his intent to re-write, with slavish copy and pastes from academic papers, in my opinion, Riveros has no intent to engage in discussion and is working with another Brahma Kumari, user Bksimonb to make repetitive accusation against me. Its becoming very silly.
What do we do?
I have decided to coninue to engage in editing the article until his modus operandi is made very clear and public. 195.82.106.244 03:19, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
brahmakumaris.info reply
ok try and answer these two as best I can
Unlike yourself, I have travelled to India. Whilst there I visited the home of the BK in Abu. In common with some of the other ashrams I visited, Abu appeared as a virtual haven of order and tranquillity relative to the colourful but disorientating chaos of the rest of India. Although I didn’t stay on site, I mixed freely with the many other students, including children of all ages. My impression during my time there, was that the children were thoroughly enjoying the experience and were well looked after.
Abu is a very large campus and I reckon must cater for substantial numbers of children every year. I’m confident that if you or the BKI community pick up the slightest rumour of anything remotely similar in the period since the child abuse was alleged to have occurred, (which would appear to be over twenty years ago), then it too, will immediately appear on your website. For the moment however, I’m having no difficulty trusting my own observation that the BK are providing a safe, well-managed environment for children in their care, both at home and on pilgrimage.
Regarding 1976. Scanning the ex-bk/pbk dialogue, it seems despite initial pbk assertions that there was a clear murli directive in 1966 indicating that ‘destruction’ would take place in 1976, that these assertions were subsequently retracted, and it appears the weight of evidence is left with a picture sourced from your website, incorporating the words ‘Destruction will take place in 10 years’. Ten years from when exactly? I could further speculate that the inclusion of this phrase maybe due to a little doctoring, that just happens to nicely suit pbk theology? Or, if it is indeed original, - quite simply a bit of artistic license on the part of the draughtsman? If I am swayed at all as to 1976 being a significant issue for the BK, it’s where an ex-bk recounts witnessing the feeling of expectation apparently running through the BK in 1976. Not that he himself was exactly biting his nails, as elsewhere he recalls receiving direct permission from ‘Baba’ to pursue a college degree in the fall of ‘76!
True or false? Black and white? One or the other? If only you applied some of this wonderful two-tone moral code to your own behaviour. - Maybe there wouldn’t be the mysterious user brahmakumaris.info lurking around to worry about? sincerely searchin man 18:29, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Arbitration
Dear .244, Sure. place the request. BUT before doing that I have a request to have the article reverted to the last version I made (see BK talk page). This is to be fair with BK. You have nothing to lose. Otherwise, I have no choice but to continue changing the page. I have not done that today to show good faith and to behave in a "gentleman" manner... tomorrow it may be different. Let me know. Best, avyakt7 02:06, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
OK. 244 I am waiting for your answer... Thanks! AVYAKT7 72.91.4.91 16:40, 20 November 2006 (UTC)