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	As the header of the page states and other people have counseled you, please take your complaint about my abuse of sysop powers to the appropriate place. The specific directions for opening a complaint can be found ] and the template to create the subpage is located ]. I look forward to the chance to have the community comment on this situation. ] <sup>]</sup> 09:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)		As the header of the page states and other people have counseled you, please take your complaint about my abuse of sysop powers to the appropriate place. The specific directions for opening a complaint can be found ] and the template to create the subpage is located ]. I look forward to the chance to have the community comment on this situation. ] <sup>]</sup> 09:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

			:Shell: the main page of RfC does not say anything about RfCs being the place to appeal administrators' abuse. Instead WP:BLOCK does say it is ANI where it belongs. No mention of RFC.
			:Personally I am very sad that you insist in defending your wrong decission when it does so clearly breaks the rules. You have not even defended your decission (at least with minimal coherence) nor has done any other user/admin.
			:I also find very sad that no other administrator has dared to intervene even when the case is so clearly a policy violation. I am offering an exit in good terms but as wikipedian I can't but follow the correct procedures outlined in the relevant policy pages and I hope that you do the same, because, as administrator you must abide to policy as much or even more than the common user.
			:I am getting more and more worried at the apparent arbitrarity displayed and what seems a fear of retaliation felt by some administrators. As compromised wikipedian I can't but fight that with the means that policy allows. It's not just my pride, my feelings or anything of the like: it is Misplaced Pages and Misplaced Pages's pillars what are at the stake.
			:Really sorry we are at this stage, really, I used to have a high esteem of administrators and Misplaced Pages community rule and I still hope this faith in Misplaced Pages will be restored, maybe today, maybe tomorrow, maybe in a few years. I have patience and perseverance. --] 17:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

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In English please You are very welcome to post in my talk page but, while I do understand Spanish (and Basque and even some French and Italian) this is the English Misplaced Pages. Other users may be interested eventually in what you say and English is the work language here.

So say what you have to say in the language of this media. Thanks. --Sugaar 21:40, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Basque portal

Kaixo! Thank you for contacting me to help you with a Basque portal, but I do not have too much free time nowadays and I prefer wasting it on Basque Misplaced Pages, and only sporadically on other Wikipedias. I hope you find someone to help you. Gero arte!

Katxijasotzaile 12:03, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes the Euskal Misplaced Pages does need a lot of work. Sadly I fear my Basque is too poor to help much.

Anyhow, the project is active and the portal too, take a look:

--Sugaar 14:53, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the invite to help. I'm unable to devote much time to Misplaced Pages editing at the moment, but may be able to help later on. It's been 10 yrs now since I last visited the Basque Country, but visited it regularly before then and picked up some of the language in Barnetegiak. Probably my most useful contribution would be to tidy up some of the style and spelling/grammar errors in many of the Basque articles, which have obviously been written by people whose mother tongue is not English.

--NSH001 21:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

That's a great help indeed. :)

--Sugaar 22:36, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Kaixo Sugaar! Thank you for your invitation for creating the basque wikiproject, I have seen that you have created it and I think it's very interesting. I'll try to help you adding some information, but I have a lot of work adding info at our Misplaced Pages and working as an administrator. We have a lot of work with the basque wikipedia, creating pages and getting more people with us. Thank you for your contributions related to the Basque Country, we thank you a lot. If you want any information related to the basque language and country, you can ask me for it. Write me on my basque talk page, please! See you! TXiKi 23:06, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

RE: RFM

I took care of archiving it. Thanks for letting me know. -^demon 20:47, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome, thanks to you. --Sugaar 21:15, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Basque

Sorry but I'm gone in south america for 9 month. No project is possible for now. mileskerMuturzikin 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Never mind. It will be around when you're back, I believe. --Sugaar 11:15, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Mediation

Medation has begun here. | AndonicO 19:35, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

You've been asked multiple times by many people to stop being incivil, stop attacking other editors and especially to stop harassing Thulean. Unfortunately you've now continued this both in the mediation and on my talk page. I've given you a short block - please stop the behavior and try to approach the mediation in a civil manner - without attacking and belittling other editors whom you disagree with. Shell 20:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Sugaar (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

It's just a 6-hours block but it's so unfair that must be unblocked anyhow. There is no such "personal attack", there are no such "repeated warnings" and I have the intention of formally recusing this particular administrator for whatever cases against me: she is completely biased an unfair.

Decline reason:

It's a six hour block. The warnings have been obvious. You can wait it out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Premeditated Chaos (talk • contribs)

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Continued dispute on WP:AN/I

As the header of the page states and other people have counseled you, please take your complaint about my abuse of sysop powers to the appropriate place. The specific directions for opening a complaint can be found here and the template to create the subpage is located here. I look forward to the chance to have the community comment on this situation. Shell 09:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Shell: the main page of RfC does not say anything about RfCs being the place to appeal administrators' abuse. Instead WP:BLOCK does say it is ANI where it belongs. No mention of RFC.

Personally I am very sad that you insist in defending your wrong decission when it does so clearly breaks the rules. You have not even defended your decission (at least with minimal coherence) nor has done any other user/admin.

I also find very sad that no other administrator has dared to intervene even when the case is so clearly a policy violation. I am offering an exit in good terms but as wikipedian I can't but follow the correct procedures outlined in the relevant policy pages and I hope that you do the same, because, as administrator you must abide to policy as much or even more than the common user.

I am getting more and more worried at the apparent arbitrarity displayed and what seems a fear of retaliation felt by some administrators. As compromised wikipedian I can't but fight that with the means that policy allows. It's not just my pride, my feelings or anything of the like: it is Misplaced Pages and Misplaced Pages's pillars what are at the stake.

Really sorry we are at this stage, really, I used to have a high esteem of administrators and Misplaced Pages community rule and I still hope this faith in Misplaced Pages will be restored, maybe today, maybe tomorrow, maybe in a few years. I have patience and perseverance. --Sugaar 17:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)