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The fact that you copied the older version is proof that you have not read the new version ] 12:47, 17 November 2006 (UTC) The fact that you copied the older version is proof that you have not read the new version ] 12:47, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


==Myths==

Some myths have become facts over the period of time and that is why you need to prove them wrong

For example the myth about Polish Cavalry chargeing into German tanks.

Some things also need to be spelled out for example that dolphines are not fish and not all birds can fly.

I have no clue about the Origin of the myth just that it is cemented into the public minds and that is why it needs to be proven wrong.

And yes the direct copy of "The last red Tzar" is nice but you still need to speel out that Stalin did not crash on the 22nd of june.

Also one needs to mention that he did not make any obvious defensive preparation which might provoke a German attack, in the hope of buying time to modernize and strengthen his military forces.

So these 2 things must be in the text. ] 22:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

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Ok, thanks for the heads up. I see the potential for abuse that you describe in the polling mechanism, I'll refrain from participating in them utill I have some more 'editorial credibility' under my belt. --C33 18:17, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

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It adds everything to the article

Perhaps reading what I actually added to the text and not liveing in the past would help. Here is the text in its current form.

Stalin had ignored numerous intelligence warnings of a German attack.. He also sought to avoid any obvious defensive preparation which might provoke a German attack, in the hope of buying time to modernize and strengthen his military forces. A myth is that Stalin appeared unwilling to accept the fact and, according to some historians, was too stunned to react appropriately for a number of days. And this myth is dispelled by people who have looked into the Soviet Archives after the fall of the Soviet Union. Both Richard Overy and Simon Sebag Montefiore have showed that he held at least 8 major meetings the same day as the invasion.

Beenhj 12:43, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


The fact that you copied the older version is proof that you have not read the new version Beenhj 12:47, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


Myths

Some myths have become facts over the period of time and that is why you need to prove them wrong

For example the myth about Polish Cavalry chargeing into German tanks.

Some things also need to be spelled out for example that dolphines are not fish and not all birds can fly.

I have no clue about the Origin of the myth just that it is cemented into the public minds and that is why it needs to be proven wrong.

And yes the direct copy of "The last red Tzar" is nice but you still need to speel out that Stalin did not crash on the 22nd of june.

Also one needs to mention that he did not make any obvious defensive preparation which might provoke a German attack, in the hope of buying time to modernize and strengthen his military forces.

So these 2 things must be in the text. Beenhj 22:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

  1. Russia's War: A History of the Soviet Effort: 1941-1945 ISBN 0140271694)
  2. Simon Sebag Montefiore. Stalin: The Court of the Red Tsar, Knopf, 2004 (ISBN 1400042305)