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This article has '''one sentence''' in the lede that described the criticisms of abortions, but there is far more to this issue than that. Saying any unborn fetus being aborted is one thing, but saying that a 21+ week old baby getting aborted is murder is more scientifically proven, since the fetus can survive independently in many cases. This article does not address the differences in fetal age and their associations with murder. Abortinganreally pregnancy is completely different from a late termination of pregnancy, which many more people equate to being murder. ] 05:47, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
This article has '''one sentence''' in the lede that described the criticisms of abortions, but there is far more to this issue than that. Saying any unborn fetus being aborted is one thing, but saying that a 21+ week old baby getting aborted is murder is more scientifically proven, since the fetus can survive independently in many cases. This article does not address the differences in fetal age and their associations with murder. Abortion in early pregnancy is completely different from a late termination of pregnancy, which many more people equate to being murder. ] 05:47, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
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Should we add or expand coverage of a particular aspect of abortion?
It is likely that we have already done so. There was so much information on abortion that we decided to split it all into separate articles. This article is concise because we've tried to create an overview of the entire topic here by summarizing many of these more-detailed articles. The goal is to give readers the ability to pick the level of detail that best suits their needs. If you're looking for more detail, check out some of the other articles related to abortion.
This article seems to be on the long side. Should we shorten it?
See above. The guidelines on article length contain exceptions for articles which act as "starting points" for "broad subjects." Please see the archived discussion "Article Length."
Should we include expert medical or legal advice about abortions?
Should we include or link to pictures of fetuses and/or the end products of abortion?
No consensus. See the huge discussion on this topic in 2009 here. Consistently, there has been little support for graphic "shock images"; while images were added in 2009 the topic remains contentious, and some images have been removed.
Should we include an image in the lead?
No consensus. Numerous images have been proposed for the article lead. However, no image achieved consensus and the proposal that garnered a majority of support is to explicitly have no image in the lead.
Should we mention the "death of the zygote/embryo/fetus/child/etc." ?
No - It is not mentioned because it is well known and understood by everyone that this happens. To explicitly mention it is POV of anti-abortionists. No one believes that in an abortion procedure the embryo will be transplanted to another woman's uterus or transferred to an artificial placenta so that it can then gestate to term and be birthed.
Are the terms "safe" and "safety" used correctly in this article?
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In this edit a source was removed a the second time from a paragraph marked with at least one sourcing issue (a "fail verification" tag) by Alexbrn (talk·contribs), citing "removed soapy". Removing sources from poorly sourced controversial content is inappropriate. JzG (talk·contribs), the original editor, did remove the entire poorly source paragraph along with this edit. Genericusername57 (talk·contribs) then reverted the edit here.
Hi, Zfish118, I checked the source marked "failed verification" and found that the url and doi led to different documents: the doi corresponded to the main article on sex-selective abortion and female infanticide, but the url went to someone else's follow-up comments about hepatitis, with little relevance to abortion. So I found a link to an accessible version of the main article and reinserted the ref; I assumed it had been flagged and removed by people looking at the wrong link.
I didn't reinsert the ref called "remove soapy": that one was about a purported link between naziism and the promotion of abortion; I agree that it was not a good source for "race-selection" as a societal factor. (Other than forced abortion of ethnic minorities, I haven't found any discussion of "race-selective abortion" in high-quality sources.)
I think that some sort of societal-factor paragraph should be included, but that the reasons need to be sourced individually. The sources used in the personal section also list some of the reasons in the societal section, but the sources don't group the reasons into these two categories. I added a ref to support in general the notion that societal factors may influence or limit a woman's choices; I've been looking for individual refs to verify the reasons listed. Cheers, gnu5706:04, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Looking over the societal motivations section again, it seems to me that the second paragraph (about contraception use and minority women) should fall under incidence rather than motivation. Would there be any objection to my moving it? Cheers, gnu5700:43, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
Short summary
"Medical procedure to end a pregnancy"
Well sometimes it is not a medical procedure but a surgical one.
And often it is not a procedure but simple the taking of medications to end pregnancy.
"Intentionally ending pregnancy" was thus better to separate it from a "spontaneous abortion"
"before it can survive outside the uterus" This is objectively false. Abortion can include termination of a fetus AFTER it can survive outside the uterus. What do you think "late term abortion" means? Whoever wrote this article, is misinformed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:602:87F:B32F:91C6:50BD:16B7:5EE1 (talk) 03:41, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
This article has one sentence in the lede that described the criticisms of abortions, but there is far more to this issue than that. Saying any unborn fetus being aborted is one thing, but saying that a 21+ week old baby getting aborted is murder is more scientifically proven, since the fetus can survive independently in many cases. This article does not address the differences in fetal age and their associations with murder. Abortion in early pregnancy is completely different from a late termination of pregnancy, which many more people equate to being murder. Bob Roberts05:47, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
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