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== use Module:template wrapper ==

I have rewritten {{cite ODNB/sandbox}} to use ]. This allows editors to use any of the available {{tlx|cite encyclopedia}} parameters without the need for special code in this template.

I have also tweaked the sandbox a bit so that {{para|freearticle}} makes the template rendering more like the native underlying {{tld|cite encyclopedia}} rendering:
*free article using {{para|url}}:
*:<code><nowiki>{{cite ODNB/sandbox |url=https://www.oxforddnb.com/view/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-37018 |title=Woolf , (Adeline) Virginia |first=Lyndall |last=Gordon |freearticle=y}}</nowiki></code>
*::{{cite ODNB/sandbox |url=https://www.oxforddnb.com/view/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-37018 |title=Woolf , (Adeline) Virginia |first=Lyndall |last=Gordon |freearticle=y}}
*free article using {{para|doi}}:
*:<code><nowiki>{{cite ODNB/sandbox |doi=10.1093/ref:odnb/37018 |title=Woolf , (Adeline) Virginia |first=Lyndall |last=Gordon |freearticle=y}}</nowiki></code>
*::{{cite ODNB/sandbox |doi=10.1093/ref:odnb/37018 |title=Woolf , (Adeline) Virginia |first=Lyndall |last=Gordon |freearticle=y}}
*free article using {{para|id}}:
*:<code><nowiki>{{cite ODNB/sandbox |id=37018 |title=Woolf , (Adeline) Virginia |first=Lyndall |last=Gordon |freearticle=y}}</nowiki></code>
*::{{cite ODNB/sandbox |id=37018 |title=Woolf , (Adeline) Virginia |first=Lyndall |last=Gordon |freearticle=y}}
*restricted article using {{para|url}}
*:<code><nowiki>{{Cite ODNB/sandbox |first=Patrick |last=Little |title=Major-generals (act. 1655–1657) |url=http://www.oxforddnb.com/view/theme/95468}}</nowiki></code>
*::{{Cite ODNB/sandbox |first=Patrick |last=Little |title=Major-generals (act. 1655–1657) |url=http://www.oxforddnb.com/view/theme/95468}}
*restricted article using {{para|doi}}
*:<code><nowiki>{{Cite ODNB/sandbox |first=Patrick |last=Little |title=Major-generals (act. 1655–1657) |doi=10.1093/ref:odnb/95468}}</nowiki></code>
*::{{Cite ODNB/sandbox |first=Patrick |last=Little |title=Major-generals (act. 1655–1657) |doi=10.1093/ref:odnb/95468}}
*restricted article using {{para|id}}
*:<code><nowiki>{{Cite ODNB/sandbox |first=Patrick |last=Little |title=Major-generals (act. 1655–1657) |id=95468}}</nowiki></code>
*::{{Cite ODNB/sandbox |first=Patrick |last=Little |title=Major-generals (act. 1655–1657) |id=95468}}
Keep? Discard?

—] (]) 16:34, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
:There having been no comment, sandbox version made live.
:—] (]) 11:34, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
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@] I did not have time to discuss it yesterday and as nothing was broken I decided to wait until today today, but in the meantime I see you have done so at ] (thanks for the ping),—ping ]. I think that the padlock while nice eye candy is not as useful as the post script:
*{{tlx|ODNBsub|sentence=yes}}:{{ODNBsub|sentence=yes}}
So I would like it restored. -- ] (]) 07:55, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
:I left it out because {{tlx|cite ODNB}} gets its style from cs1|2. In cs1|2, {{para|registration}} and {{para|subscription}} have been deprecated. Following the deprecation period, cs1|2 will no longer render the imprecise subscription and registration messages. The text message form of subscription notification provided by {{tlx|ODNBsub}} is inconsistent with the rendered form of adjacent cs1|2 citations. Editors are, of course, free to write {{tag|ref|content={{tlx|cite ODNB|...}} {{tlx|ODNBsub|sentence{{=}}yes}}}}.
:—] (]) 11:35, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
::I agree that it would be preferable to restore a visible marker of the subscription requirement. ] (]) 17:11, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
:::{{u|Trappist the monk}} Is the access-date parameter not required? I don't care either way, just asking as it is a url based source? Regards. ] (]) 10:47, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
::::I would say that it's not required; might be useful if ever the ODNB website changes its structure such that {{para|url}} in a url-only ODNB citation can't link to the ODNB article. Then, {{para|access-date}} would be handy in possibly locating a copy of the article on an archive service – and this is really only useful if the article is free-to-read. Except for the case of free-to-read articles where the {{para|url}} links to a section in the article, I see little reason for using {{para|url}} at all. Better, I think to convert all of those kinds of ODNB citations to use {{para|id}} or {{para|doi}} and remove {{para|url}} when {{para|url}} points into the ODNB website.
::::—] (]) 12:07, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
:::::Fair enough; thanks for the quick response. Regards. ] (]) 12:36, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

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