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jni 05:48, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the information! I'll take care in future.

Szhaider 23:39, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Aniconism

Hi,

I liked your message over at the cartoons' talk page. I wanted to ask if you would consider contributing to the Aniconism page, a related subject that is poorly understood, and clearly can use a lot of expansion. Thanks - Tempshill 03:42, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for taking time to read my message at the cartoons' talk page. Aniconism is a controversial topic among Muslim scholars. I have read the article and I realize that it needs more clarification. I'll see what can I do and will try to post most accurate information. Thanks again! Szhaider 20:56, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

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I will try to find and upload another image of Abrar with known copyright information. Right now, I cannot find any copyright information about this image. Szhaider 02:11, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

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Misplaced Pages:Wikiethics

Hi,

We started a proposal Misplaced Pages:Wikiethics to state the existing policies coherently and make suggestions on improving the editorial standards in Wiki. I thought you might be interested in contributing to that proposal.

Unfortunately, a pro-porn and pro-offense lobby is trying to make this proposal a failure. They unilaterally started an approval poll although almost no one including me believe that it is time for a vote, simply because the policy is not ready. It is not even written completely.

Editors who thinks that the policy needs to be improved rather than killed by an unfair poll at the beginning of the proposal, started another poll ('Do we really need a poll at this stage?') at the same time. The poll is vandalized for a while but it is stable now. A NO vote on this ('Do we really need a poll now?') poll will strengthen the position of the editors who are willing to improve the ethics policy further.

If you have concerns about the ethics and editorial standards in Wiki, please visit the page Misplaced Pages:Wikiethics with your suggestions on the policy. We have two subpages: Arguments and Sections. You might want to consider reviewing these pages as well...

Thanks in advance. Resid Gulerdem 22:23, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

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Need your Help

I need support in editing the page for Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh from Pakistani-Wikipedians. The page concludes Pakistans link to 9/11 using information from Indian press and much information in that page is without proper references. The page says that ISI gives money to Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh and Sheikh then wired the money to Atta. I have checked some of the references on that page and information in the references is different from what is mentioned in it. I will appreciate any help because I have very less free time these days... Faisal 16:58, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Cat Lovers' Committee

Szhaider, I can see from your userboxes that you love cats.

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If you want to join, you can add yourself to the members list, and contact me, Sergeant Snopake, on my talk page, or the committee founder, GeorgeMoney, on his.

The Misplaced Pages Cat Lover's Committee has also been nominated for deletion.

Whether you join or not, please could you comment on the deletion page to help keep the committee going.

Please vote keep.

Thank You very much! :)

Sergeant Snopake, 12:56, 21th of April 2006 (UTC)

I Need your help once again

The concept of Muslim being brother (all for one, one for all) is not a new concept. We being Muslims believe in Khilafat, the concept created by Muhammad (PBUH) and that concept was not created in 1900 as described in the articles with names Pan-Islamism and Muslim Unity. I wish if you can help in doing major modification in Pan-Islamism and Muslim Unity articles. I do not know that what the need of these articles is when a good article of Khilafat already exists. I will really appreciate you help. --- Faisal 21:00, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

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Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh article is back to Anti-Pakistan stand

You have made few important changes in that article. Just want to tell that I need your support to keep your changes. Because it is back in its previous Anti-Pakistani stand. --- Faisal 18:59, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

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This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Misplaced Pages:Media copyright questions. 10:04, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Over-linking

I believe you are referring to the edits to Roosevelt Island? Refer to Misplaced Pages:Only make links that are relevant to the context. I felt that a link to Setting (fiction) was not entirely relevant to the context of the article, which is about Roosevelt Island. The island was a setting, true, but the article is not about fiction, film, or something of that nature, which would be appropriate for the link. --Larry V (talk | contribs) 12:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks... Szhaider 09:34, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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Thank you! When my name was removed from the request page I assumed that I had ‎been rejected. It's a pleasant surprise.‎ - Szhaider 09:18, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

HI Szhaider

Please visit page and add your personal email (if you don't mind) at the bottom for better collaboration, networking and comunication. Thanks :) Omerlives

Warning

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert a single page more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 14:07, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Don't do this again. And its also a warning. Szhaider 14:08, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

It is important to keep a cool head, especially when responding to comments against you or your edits. Personal attacks and disruptive comments only escalate a situation; please keep calm and remember that action can be taken against other parties if necessary. Attacking another user back can only satisfy trolls or anger contributors and leads to general bad feeling. Please try to remain civil with your comments. Thanks! Rama's arrow 14:33, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

You make the point. I agree. Szhaider 14:35, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

I cannot understand one thing - why do you insist on making Urdu bold, and then why not the others? Its a silly issue. You needn't be concerned that Urdu will be confused by readers as Arabic or not given enough value as the other transliteration. This is a silly issue over which you have broken 3RR. Rama's arrow

User notice: temporary 3RR block

Regarding reversions made on September 18 2006 to Abrar-ul-Haq

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future.

India

Why do consider India to be a threat to world peace and humanity? India pwns 69.158.61.72 02:48, 20 September 2006 (UTC) Szhaider doesnt only consider India a threat to world peace and humanity,we as civilized people oppose all sorts of state terrorism.Nadirali 03:16, 29 November 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

Question

Hi Szhaider - may I ask why you insist on making the Urdu transliteration in articles bold? I can't understand why you would be willing to fight edit wars and risk a 3RR block like you already did for seemingly trivial point? Cheers, Rama's arrow 14:17, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Readability! Principle! Pipe like structure of Arial's Urdu font! Szhaider 18:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Look Szhaider, the Urdu transliteration is clearly visible and readable - no Indic, Cyrillic or any other script requires such bold fonts. People who don't know Urdu aren't gonna benefit anyway. I don't find your explanation convincing because you chose to make Urdu bold but not Indic script transliterations - you also removed Indic script from the Sindhi transliteration at Karachi. I request you to discuss with other editors before making such unilateral changes. Your behavior is not acceptable as you are an Urdu WP administrator. Rama's arrow 18:20, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Indian scripts in Pakistan related pages are irrelevant (even in Allama Iqbal's article). As far as Urdu bold fonts are concerned, I stand by my point. Szhaider 18:53, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Ignorant Behaviour

I strongly condemn your behaviour over wikipedia articles. It seems that you just want to increase no of edits. Misplaced Pages community will never allow such persons having no knowledge of an article and editing and removing things from them as you have done to my created articles like Sheikhan Lalian etc. Abulfazl 06:50, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I strongly condemn any kind of personal attacks. You should discuss the matter at the relevent talk page instead of here. Word Shaikhan has its roots in Arabic then what's point of adding Gurmukhi. In addition, Shaikhan is in Pakistan where Gurmukhi is not used. As far as Lalian is concerened, English spellings and Urdu/Punjabi word's pronunciation are cleary very different. Either one of them has to be wrong. I think for a town as unknown as Lalian you should provide some kind of citation. Szhaider 13:00, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Jal

Salaam Szhaider! I really appreciate your efforts to add the Urdu script to South Asian articles. One of the reasons I think it's a good idea to keep the Hindi script on the Jal article is because the band has much fame in India. Several of their songs were in Indian Bollywood movies and right now, the band is touring in India in several cities (Jal Official Website). Because Hindi and Urdu are standard registers of the same language and Jal has a large audience in both Pakistan and India, I believe it's okay to have both the Perseo-Arabic and Devanagari script on the article. In fact, Bollywood articles have both scripts for the same reason (i.e. Fanaa, Sarkar, Amitabh Bachchan, etc.) In light of these facts, I hope you don't mind me reinserting the Hindi script for the Jal article. If you have any questions or would like to discuss this further, please let me know. Thanks for your understanding. Khuda hafiz, Anupam 04:12, 16 October 2006 (UTC).

Putting Hindi (or Divangari) in first line alongside Urdu gives a wrong idea as if Divangara is standard in the Band's country of origin. You can put Divangari in Etymology section whcih will make more sense as Jal is a very informal and almost obselete word in Urdu. Thanks! Szhaider 05:56, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

A correction for the record

I do not add Urdu scripts to specifically Indian articles. I add Urdu script to only those articles whcih are relevent to Pakistan. Szhaider 05:56, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Image:Rambo sahiba.jpg

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Sarfraz v Sarfaraz

Please see Talk: Sarfraz Nawaz. Is it okay ? Tintin (talk) 08:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Visual Basic 6 and Misplaced Pages

Are there any guidelines available for connecting Misplaced Pages with a software written in Visual Basic 6? I am intending to write a software for Urdu Misplaced Pages for quickly editing and repairing common mistakes. Szhaider 23:11, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Dont forget to add Saudi Arabia's flag

I saw the group of flags in your list of countries that are a threat to democracy.I have to say I 100% agree with you.I would just like to suggest Saudi Arabia's flag. Reasons: -It's a dictatorship closely allied with America -it supports political terrorism in Pakistan -It considers Pakistanis(as well as all south asians) as "miskins" or "beggars"

If you are uncomfartable with adding the green flag with "there is no God but Allah and Muhammed is his messenger",then simply place the tale logo of Saudi Arabian airlines as a flag to a draw a line between Islam and Saudi fanaticism.ThankyouNadirali 16:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

Thankyou

I also agree aobut religious scripts being used on flags such as SA,Iran etc.

If you dont know what the tale logo of sauid airlines looks like here's the link http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/4/20864-4161-saudi.jpg

See if you can create a rectangular shape of the symbol in the background to turn it into a flag.

Im glad you agree with me.This is how wikipedia should spread with colloboration of people who seek truth and knowledge where they can share that truth and knowledge. Nadirali 16:57, 28 November 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

Removal of project tags

I would request you not to remove project tags from talk pages. The idea of tagging articles is not to mark territory, but to improve the related articles. These articles will otherwise be invisible to the project members. Further discussion on this can be found here. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 22:23, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Agreed.--D-Boy 23:45, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree you do have a point that pre-1947 "History of India" articles should be neither Republic of India nor Pakistan-specific. At present, material of History of India is largely duplicated at History of Pakistan. This is not satisfactory, and I would support a merger of the two articles to History of South Asia. History of Pakistan and History of the Republic of India should both just treat the post-1947 period, while History of India and History of South Asia should be the same article. If you want to adopt this question, a polite and balanced proposal should be made to Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Indian history (while unilateral changes are pointless, they will just be reverted if no consensus is established first). dab (ᛏ) 08:09, 29 November 2006 (UTC)