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Photo not showing on home computer but visible on another computer.

I had an operator at Misplaced Pages kindly upload a publicity photo to the Gerald Mohr Wiki site recently. She added an infobox template to do so. Oddly, although the infobox is on screen, the photo is not showing at all on my home computer but is showing on my office computer. I've tried purging, cache cleaning, cache bypassing on my computer and also changing the level of protection from my firewell to medium for a trusted site, but all to no avail. Has anyone any other suggestions as to how I can get the photo to show on my home computer, please?

The State of the Dab

I just finished some cleanup after moving The State, an article about a South Carolina newspaper, to The State (newspaper). The State is a political concept -- an abstraction. No offense is intended to the great state of South Carolina or its journalists but the political concept is universal.

The article on the political concept is at State, as it should be. All other uses of the word are derivative of the concept. I've redirected The State to this after disambiguating all references to the newspaper -- as well as quite a few to The State (TV series) and even The State (album).

What remains is an enormous number of links to State -- over 500, anyway. Most of these should be links to State (country subdivision); many of these are in templates. I don't have a deskbot or the time available to fix all of these bad links, nor is this a situation I created. So for the time being, readers who want to know what a state is are going to hit the political concept, get bounced to State (disambiguation), and finally, perhaps, get to their destination.

I'm not here to beg anyone to disambiguate these hundreds of links (be nice of somebody did). I'm here to plead with people to get a global view when linking in the first place. This project covers the entire range of human knowledge. Articles need to be disambiguated or we run the reader through a thicket. Before linking any word, ask: How general is this term? If there's any doubt, follow the link -- you can follow directly from preview, just special-click the link to open a new window or tab. See where you are pointing people before you point them there.

When creating a new article, consider the generality of your subject's name. You can't do anything directly about stupid or self-aggrandizing entrepreneurs but you can resist the urge to create, say, an article titled Crab House whose subject is one restaurant in downtown Chicago. Don't even call it Crab House (Chicago); there are many crab houses in Chicago and most of them have been around longer than "the" new, awful, touristy one with no name. All kinds of fools want to be not merely a special case but the -- the only -- crab house, chicken shack, state, news, times, album, show, game, toy, car, suit, party, or city department store. Don't play into this, please. Okay? John Reid ° 18:18, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I would be happy to disambiguate State for you, but unfortunately it's not a dab page and I don't think the tool I have will work unless the subject page is itself a dab page. I'll try it, though, and if it works, I'll plow through all the links when I have time (probably this weekend or next week). Meanwhile, I recommend that you add a link to The State (newspaper) at State (disambiguation). :-) If you're American (or what the hell, even if you're not), Happy Thanksgiving! --Tkynerd 19:50, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I went ahead and added that link for you. --Tkynerd 21:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry to report that a test shows that the tool I use will not disambiguate State. It would be perfectly happy to disambiguate State (disambiguation), but there were only 5 inbound links to that page, and only one of them actually needed disambiguation (Baltic countries, which I just took care of). --Tkynerd 23:47, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, State is a particular case and not my primary concern; I worry more about the general case. We don't pre-disambiguate for no obvious reason but we do need to dab rationally as we go along. When we create a new article, we need to check to see what other plausible topics are going to home in on the same article title; when we link, we need to check to see where we're linking.

You don't really need any sort of deskbot to dab; it just make the work go faster. It helps to have some general knowledge of all of the subject areas involved. Perhaps I should put State on watch and whittle away at it. John Reid ° 20:29, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I quite agree with the general principle here. When linking, always follow the link you have created, and check you have linked correctly. This should be in the guidelines somewhere (and probably is), but even so, it seems that people need to be reminded of this quite frequently. Adjectives (especially of countries) are another case of poor linking. People link to English, Malagasy, Ptolemaic, European, without thinking which case they should be linking to (the language, the people, the country, etc). Carcharoth 01:05, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Nick Dastardly

I think the article is POV and generally not up to Misplaced Pages standards. Therefore I marked the article {{pov}} and {{cleanup}}. Please take a look and let us know on the discussion page what you think. TIA! --217.235.248.15

I attempted a very brief clean up, but this article probably deserves an AfD. :( Doc Tropics 05:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks anyway. --217.235.253.66

And 24 hours later, several "improvements" have restored its status as an eyesore. --Doc Tropics 09:08, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Request for interlanguage link English Main Page --> Simple English Main Page (and others)_Simple_English_Main_Page_(a-2006-11-21T02:42:00.000Z">

Hi! This is a request. I guess I can't edit the Main Page (Welcome Page) -- there's no edit tab at the top. But surely somebody can. I would like to ask that somebody to please post an interlanguage link (at the left) from the English Main Page to the Simple English Main Page. The reason is that I think if that is done, then more people will notice that there is a Simple English Misplaced Pages, and write articles for it, which I think will help with exchange of ideas among languages. If you click on Francais at the left on the Main Page, you see that the French Misplaced Pages has links to about 50 languages, while the English Misplaced Pages has links to only about 33. I'm particularly requesting a link to the Simple English one, but I think the others should be added too. Also, one more thing -- the page you get when you type www.wikipedia.org gives the impression that there are only 8 languages. It would be nice to add "... and more!" to it or something -- maybe show a row of languages going off into the distance so it looks like an infinite number of them. By the way the Village Pump page has a huge number of language links. Maybe some of those languages also have Main Pages that can be added as links from the English Main Page. Thanks for listening! --Coppertwig 02:42, 21 November 2006 (UTC)_Simple_English_Main_Page_(a"> _Simple_English_Main_Page_(a">

Only Wikipedias with 20000+ articles are added, however there's some more debate whether it will be lowered to 10000+ at Talk:Main Page. MER-C 12:20, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

For www.wikipedia.org, in addition to the 10 languages around the logo, just look down and you can see dozens more below the bookshelves. At the bottom is a list of links, in several languages) to all Misplaced Pages languages.

Also, this is the English Misplaced Pages (en.wikipedia.org). www. isn't a part of it. For any changes to that page, you would need to go to meta.wikimedia.org. -- kenb215 talk 06:41, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

ref. labor rights , abuse and woeking condition and emplyee relationship

I live in Orlando , Florida, work for large retail fortune 500 company, who does business in all 50 states, I have some concern, grivences about working condition and feel that some labor rights are violated and abused, we dont have a labor union so , I like to talk to any private or public labor rights group or federal or state goverment official or any other reosurce. (E-mail address removed) thanks

Kumar

Sorry, but this isn't the right place for that sort of request. Posting your e-mail address here will get you lots of junk mail. ~ ONUnicorn 21:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I would recommend trying the Reference Desk for this sort of thing. Good luck. --Tkynerd 12:53, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Copyright question

I ran across the article William S. Powell. At the bottom of this version it had a little thing that said, "(text used with permission from The University of North Carolina Press)". I asked about it on the creator's talk page and got this response:

I'm the webmaster and IT Manager for the University of North Carolina Press. All text for the Powell article was either written originally by me or was taken from UNC Press media/press release information, all of which is available for use by any media outlet.

Should the bottom line simply be removed to avoid confusion? And/or is any further release information required?

They have since removed the bottom line. Can anyone help me determine if there are any copyright problems with this now or not? ~ ONUnicorn 19:47, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm working on it. -- kenb215 talk 07:07, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Harrasment Issue

I am asking that anyone who wants to and has the time to visit this link with regards to a user who, I feel, is harrasing me with edit stalking. I wish to make it clear to this user that he has gone too far and his actions of posting my personal information on Misplaced Pages and creating a project page devoted to covertly calling me a copyright law breaker, will not be tolerated. -Husnock 19:51, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

• I have not stalked you, as I have repeatedly stated to you and proven to you with quotes from Misplaced Pages:Harassment. Furthermore, a member of ArbCom told you it was not stalking and what I was doing was natural and proper. I firmly believe and understand that you think I have gone to far. This is why I have agreed to mediation in the dispute to bring a third party to the table to rectify the issue rather than having me continue the needed work. I'll also make it clear for the 4th or 5th time, that I did not post personal information about you anywhere period. You did. I tried to help you not reveal this information, and as a result you accuse me of posting the information. If you are truly concerned about your privacy, then remove the image, and possibly replace it with the one I provided to you that does not have the personal information...which I did as a favor to you to assist you. An olive branch was handed to you and you put a lighter to it. Lastly, there is nothing covert about my edits. I informed you of what I was doing and fully expected you to see the page. This is why I put the "Nature of this page" section on it from the beginning. If I wanted to do something covertly, I would not post it here on Misplaced Pages for all to see. Enough of the rhetoric, please. --Durin 20:33, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I invite any who see this to visit: Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Durin/Husnock images as I am trying to have this insulting page removed from Misplaced Pages. -Husnock 11:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Muhammad Qadiri

Perhaps someone can take a look this article. I tagged it as POV and original research, but I am not sure it needs to be nominated for deletion or to be improved until it meets the Misplaced Pages standards. I do not know too much about the islam in Pakistan, but also do not want to leave things as they are right now. Thanks and regards, gidonb 06:11, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

In the meantime I undertook some more action. gidonb 15:27, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

University of Bedfordshire Arguments

This page is increasingly becoming a review and a place for an ex-staff member to air personal grievances. I am relavivtly new and would appreciate some help in tidying up the article from experianced editors. Also what is the policy in terms of this type of issue?

Many thanksGazMan7 09:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Needy monobook

My monobook needs more cowbell. Can anybody point me in the right direction?--Shella * 19:30, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe that was just too flippant a question. I need help finding some scripts for work in afd if anyone would point me to them I would appreciate it.

Google search found them thanx.—Shella * 22:30, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

VH1s Top 100 songs of the 80's

Would it be copyright infringement if I made a "VH1s Top 100 songs of the 80's" page?

yes.Geni 18:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

To clarify: it would if you intended to include the list. Other lists, like Rolling Stone's greatest guitarists list, have been removed. Also note that TV channels and magazines are churning out new "best XXX of the XXX" lists daily, they no longer appear to be notable or have value. Notinasnaid 19:28, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, what about on their pages making a comment like, for example, on the "Livin' on a Prayer" page saying something like 'This song was voted as VH1s Top song of the 1980s'? (true, you know)--WTRiker 20:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

In an article about X, there is no copyright concern in saying that X occupied position Y on list Z. However, one should consider whether that information is notable and interesing enough to the reader to be appropriate in an encyclopedia article. A high position on a well known list often would be, but a low position on a poorly known list generally would not be. In other words use some common sense on whether it is worth mentioning. Dragons flight 20:48, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Image request

In the name of $100CAD for Wikimedia, does anybody have some ideas for appropriate pictures for the Cro-Magnon article? Xaxafrad 23:58, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

how about this one?

BJAODNed Dylan Lake (t·c·ε) 23:20, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Expert request sorting

Hey there folks. WikiProject Expert Request Sorting is in need of assistance. We have several thousand articles that are requesting expert assistance and a way to get them to the eyes of those who might be able to provide it. If you have a couple spare minutes here and there, could you take a look at WP:WERS#Open tasks? It would be much appreciated. Thanks! --Brad Beattie 12:00, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Could I have a neutral opinon on this spate of reversions?

I just added a bunch of citations to the Landmark Education page which were reverted Wholesale again by user:Smeelgova.

(see the History, 23 Nov 10:31 to 13:11)

There has been extensive discussion of the issues on the article's talk page.

The whole thing is an edit war soup. I am at the point that I don't know what to think.

Could someone not involved with this take a look and advise me on how we can move to a reasonably stable article which is in conformance with wikipedia's NPOV, verifiability and reliable sources policies? Thanks. DaveApter 14:24, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, one of the main problems with this article is its reliance on citations from the for-profit company's own main Corporate Website. As per Misplaced Pages Policy, especially with regard to articles with controversial subjects, we should not allow the usage of citations from a Corporate Website, especially to the degree in which they are in use in the article at present. Yours, Smeelgova 11:54, 25 November 2006 (UTC).

Newbie help

I'm not familiar with all the templates, nor terribly well at being diplomatic, so I was wondering if someone could welcome User:Jjrizo to Misplaced Pages. At the same time, some words about WP:COI could help; he's not just spamming his links around like some people, but he is the seller of the book and the articles he's linking to.--Prosfilaes 18:02, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Done and done -- Lost 16:17, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Unknown Bands Lover

That's what I call him.

Topic of this little discussion is a number of articles about bands that do not seem to be very well known (Nick Dastardly, Straw Dogs (Band), Gee Davey, Brandon Patton, Brainpool (band)). I think these articles are of low quality and most of them ar POV, so I tagged them. At least some of the articles are candidates for AfD according to the criteria set up in WP:MUSIC.

However, these tags are repeatedly removed without notable improvements on quality or NPOV. The Users removing them are each editing the articles in question, but little else (User:Blaklotus, User:Nofuel, User:Smoke23, User:PickledHambone, User:SlideSolo, User:63.166.148.155).

Now I see three problems:

• Is the untagging vandalism?
• Are these sockpuppets?
• Is trying to AfD the lot against a bunch of sockpuppets worth it?

Please, can any senior editor offer any advice?

tia --217.235.246.103

I'm passingly familiar with the Nick Dastardly article, having made a small attempt to clean it up. I was seriously tempted to nom it for AfD because it is such a borderline case of notability. If you want to try an AfD, I have two suggestions:

1. Register and get an account first; IP editors get little respect in AfD's.
2. Nom the articles singly. Mass AfD noms rarely work out well; one article being judged notable is enough to result in all of them being kept.

I hope this helps. --Doc Tropics 19:42, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, but I'd rather stay IP. I'll give it a shot anyway.

Thanks for the hints! --217.235.246.103

I made a page for this long ago: User:John Reid/Obscure bands. This is open to public editing. John Reid ° 20:31, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't quite understand what your page is supposed to do. Care to elaborate? --217.235.246.103

Nope, IPs can't do the AfD. So, does anybody feel inclined to lend a hand? --217.235.246.103

IP217 - I have nom'd Nick Dastardly for AfD. Your are welcome to participate in the discussion, but as I mentioned, IP editors often get short shrift in these debates. Is it possible for you to register and establish an account? If so, I would strongly encourage you to do so. If nothing else, I'd like to call you something a little more personal than "IP217" : ) Doc Tropics 21:24, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Need help moving page

Hi, I am a very wet behind the ears Nubi. Yesterday, I posted an article "Mary Beth Mckenzie" which needs to be moved to "Mary Beth McKenzie" due to spelling error ("K" needs to be capitalized). My account is only 1 or 2 days old, so I don't have a "move" button yet.

I would appreciate it if someone with proper authority could do this move for me.

TIA, Dave 16:08, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Done -- Lost 16:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Help me with Portal:Internet

I don't find myself with much time for the Misplaced Pages at the moment, so I would appreciate it if another member could start maintaining Portal:Internet. Thanks. Computerjoe's talk 20:52, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Fixing a malformed AfD nomination

I messed up in submitting Rumourdely to AfD (I misspelled the name on the afd2 and afd3 pages) and in trying to fix the problem, just made a bigger mess. It's happened a few times before, and it's time I learned how to correct an error when I make one. Can someone direct me to the WP: page(s) which provide info on fixing a submission problem (and maybe fix the messy submission too)? Denni 22:17, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism by 204.244.150.7

204.244.150.7 seems to have fun by subtly modifying tens of pages, chaging words into similar words etc... see contributions on:

Nicolas1981 22:56, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. I have warned the IP. See WP:VAN for more information about reverting and reporting vandalism. In the future, you may want to consider consider leaving the user a message yourself, or adding a template. Dar-Ape 04:51, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages with two languages : French and English

Hi and congratulation about your site

I'd like to use, in IE 7.0 the Search tools with two sites of Wibipedia : this one in English and this one in French

But ... if I select "Misplaced Pages" (tick front of) the result is ... always in English Note that there is an yellow asterix front of "Misplaced Pages (Englich)"

And if I select "Misplaced Pages (English)" (that I added from your tool "Find more Providers" the result is in English.

Thank you for any inform let me to select, in the search tool, Misplaced Pages in French or Misplaced Pages in English.

Sorry for my poor English Thank you in advance for anyanswer/link

Regards

José RELLAND jose.relland@free.fr

I've made one for you that should do this. Go to http://www.1site1moment.com/toby/searchenglishfrenchwikipedia.asp then click 'Add' then click 'Add Provider' and it will appear in your list of search providers under 'Misplaced Pages'. Tra (Talk) 14:33, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Anwers.com, reliable as a source?

Specifically regarding the insertion of controversial or negative material in a BLP, is Answers.com a "reliable" source for the purpose that its being used for here? I wouldn't question its use in articles on other topics, especially pop-culture, but BLPs are held to a much higher standard of proof. Is this source alone enough to justify the material being inserted? Doc Tropics 21:57, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Answers.com takes Misplaced Pages content and republishes it (it also has other content too). That link is identical to Gracenote, so no... Thanks/wangi 22:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Keren Woodward

Someone has to look at this page Keren Woodward. I dont know how I report it, but there is obviouse false information on the site.

I have removed it. Thankyou for letting us know. Did you know that you can edit the article yourself to remove the incorrect information? Just click on the edit link at the top of the page. Viridae 22:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

AfD:LinuxDC++

I just want to give the AfD some attention as it has been heavily influenced by fanboys of the software. Didn't know where to post this, so here I am: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/LinuxDC++ - go share your view/recommendation! Memmke 10:53, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I've placed the standard disclaimer on it. Misplaced Pages's deletion policy considers arguments, not weight of numbers, so don't be too worried about a mass flood of identical arguments (the closing admin should only count them once). --ais523 12:32, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I wasn't aware of that disclaimer, although it would be useful to have a category along with it. Memmke 08:17, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Kh liew doing a lot of work on TVants

Can someone take a look at TVants and the editing of it by Kh liew (talk · contribs)? I'm leaving for work, and it looks like this article is getting further and further from encyclopedic. It would be best if someone could get involved sooner rather than later, I think. BigNate37_(T) 17:35, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I reverted all their edits to the article and talk page and made a few more changes. I also left a message on Kh liew's talk page explaining things. Hopefully that will resolve the situation.--Kchase T 19:15, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I went ahead and left him/her a note about the images s/he used as well, on the article's talk page. BigNate37_(T) 01:46, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Chess openings

I've recently reviewed the Category:Chess openings and it seems a little large, and full of articles that may not have much in the way of encyclopedic content. All many of them amount to is listing of the openings, with only a brief mention of anything else. Often, it's just a description of how to use that opening. I've brought this up on the Chess WikiProject talk page, but I'm not sure they're getting my concerns understood. I'm wondering if anybody has any suggestions on how to broaden the discussion. I don't want to just put up articles for deletion, because I'm afraid that might upset folks too much, but I would like some wider establishment of consensus. Mister.Manticore 19:03, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I hadn't seen these links (or any Chess articles) on Misplaced Pages prior to seeing your comment here. Nevertheless I found the Category:Chess openings to be an excellent resource for an encyclopedia ! This is not to say that individual articles should not be expanded, better referenced, generally improved and better interlinked, but I do feel that merging them simply to get fewer entries in the list will be counter-productive. Considering that ECO lists 500 openings, I think the category needs plenty of work in order to make it truly encyclopedic.

I am not expressing this view with the aim of being contrarian, but rather with the hope that an independent opinion from someone uninvolved with the Chess WikiProject will be useful addition to the discussion. Abecedare 04:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

HELP!

Special:Listusers has a HUGE backlog of inappropriate usernames. Please, for the sake of my sanity help fix this. Samuel 23:47, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

The trouble is that even once they are blocked, the offensive usernames still remain in the list. Having the accounts renamed by a beauracrat to something inconspicuous is one way to remove them, but current policy only permits this with the permission of the user concerned. Tra (Talk) 00:21, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

we knocked them off the front page. Not much else we can do.Geni 17:12, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

My Name

This is an odd situation that I knew would arise sooner or later. I'm not a newbie at all but I chose to log out because I don't want to seem like a pompas jerk. I am a television writer and producer. I have many awards including Emmys and other national and international awards, and my work is included in the National Archives. Again, I don't want to seem like a pompas jerk but I'm just establishing that I have NOT put myself on Misplaced Pages but perhaps somebody could have.

There is a different person that shares the exact same name as me and he too is a television writer and producer. The problem is that although I don't know of him having any major awards, he has many many fans because the program he is involved with has a huge cult following. I have received emails from him fans accidentally (until he finally got a website of his own). So it was inevitable that a fan (I presume) would start a Misplaced Pages article on him. I don't question whether or not the NPOV article is appropriate. I do however have my own concerns with my name being further confused with his. Should there be a disambig page created? If that sounds like a good solution, would that solution be less valid if I didn't necessarily want my own Misplaced Pages page? My goal isn't to be listed, only to not be confused with another person with the same name, in the same industry, with the same titles. Could there be a disambig page where one or more items aren't links to articles on that subject? And then there's the tricky wording of how you would disambiguate the two subjects since adding "(television writer/producer)" obviously wouldn't be enough. Of course doing nothing is another option and it certainly wouldn't hurt Misplaced Pages but it could

I'm just curious about my options and possibilities. Feedback would be appreciated. If some experienced Wikipedian(s) would like more details please post as such below and I'll contact you 'less publicly'. Thanks.

I see no problem with a disambiguation page. For example, have a ] page, and in that, list:

• ]
• ]

Just as examples.

User:Zoe|(talk) 20:06, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi, mystery TV writer. If you'd like to contact me through my talk page or email, I'd be happy to set up the disambiguation page for your name and the name of the other writer. If there is no article about you, I'll also create a reasonable bio-stub for your name so that each fork of the disambiguation will have a real article. And don't worry, I don't watch much TV, and I wouldn't consider myself a huge fan of any particular show, so the article will be NPOV. I can understand the confusion you and your fans probably experience, and am happy to help. Phidauex 22:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

My watchlist is not showing pages under watch.

My watch-list is not showing pages kept under watch. I have kept Swadhyay Parivar and Hinduism on my watch-list and they never reflected any edits made in these two articles on 28/11/06. I have also kept "paria" in watch but that too does not reflect. I am not sure about my other pages but today, I removed Indian admin board and village pump from my list as they were loading a lot and I thought they may be the cause of problem.

Could I get some help. Reply on my talk page will be appreciated.

swadhyayee 03:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Are you sure that it's not a time zone issue ? - all the dates are UTC, which be offset from the time zone you are in. Swadhyay Parivar appears not to have had any edits on 28 Nov and the logs don't show any admin type actions . Check the pages are showing "unwatch" rather than "watch" at the top. Megapixie 05:30, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I have checked that watch-unwatch. It's not the date, the content I go by. Hinduism had edits yesterday and I never found it on my watch page. Even in Swadhyay Parivar, some anonymous IP, posted comments in my name and I had not come to know from my watch list. Even at this moment, if I try to see my watchlist for last 3 or 7 days, I am not getting beyond today. Who could restore this? swadhyayee 11:59, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

It seems like you have some kind of technical issue - try forcing a full refresh on your browser (ctrl+click on refresh) and see if that pulls back more. It seems unlikely a watchlist issue would just be affecting you. Alternatively you could try the following.

The watchlist only shows the most recent edits to the article not the complete history i.e. if an article was edited on Monday and Tuesday, the watchlist would only show Tuesday edit. If you are interested in a more comprehensive list of edits to a set of articles - it might be worth building a user page i.e. User:Swadhyayee/mywatchlist with just links to the articles you are interested in watching on. Then when you want to see the edits go to the page and click on "related changed" in the toolbox on the left hand panel. Megapixie 12:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

table

Can someone have a look at the Template:Netherlands general election, 2006 table? Colours for the political parties show up in Firefox, but not in IE. Is it also possible to remove the line breaks in the text when watching the table with a lower resolution screen (maybe change the font size automatically then?). Intangible 16:08, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

The blocks of colour at the start of each line show up on the version of IE6 I'm using. I don't think changing the font size automatically is possible, unless there's something in CSS which shrinks text to fit. --ais523 16:09, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Blocks Don't Really Work

http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:209.215.171.12 is a school's IP. A truely endless barrage of vandalism kept coming from that address so after a dozen warnings they were finally blocked "indefinitely". Well checking their history page its clear that the block doesn't really block anything and they are tearing up and vandalizing article after article again.
1) Why does "blocked indefinitely" apparently mean "does nothing at all"?
2) Can some higer-up important Wikipedian please do something about this?

You aren't an admin, so placing an indef-blocked notice on the talk page will have no effect. To request the blocking of a user, go to WP:AIV. Although much vandalism does come from school IPs, there are often legitimate contributors using the same IP too, so they are never blocked permanently (they can sometimes be blocked anon-only for long periods of time, though). --ais523 16:28, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Federal Authorities are now blocking any IP discussing their disruption of Misplaced Pages

The vilage pump had some initial discussion of US Federal Authorities using disruptive tactics on Wikipediia to ensure key articles follow the party line of the Bush Whitehoue. Some of these Federeal authorities (e.g., MONGO), who have raised themselves up to administrator status on Wikipeedia are now blocking IP addresses and even a user's account simply for discussing these issues. No doubt this IP address will be blocked now too, simply for raising this issue.. What are they going to do, block evvery IP address in the wolrd. Please spread the word.. Don't be afraid of them. They'have no real authority, only what authority they can manipulate on Misplaced Pages. --68.30.87.114 20:56, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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