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Re: "level-headed and balanced assessment of the situation"

No problem. This is a very delicate situation where groups have dug in trenches long before this specific issue came up. Emotions can run high, and with all the mounting ridiculousness on Twitter and FB, it's a relief to check the Talk page and find someone like you there. Please, keep it up. clicketyclick 19:07, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

The above

I have left the above on my talk page not as indicative of my level-headedness, of which I possess almost none, but because in the over five years I have been editing, no-one has ever suggested before that I might be the calm voice of reason. I look forward to it happening again in 2020 or so.

A cynic would observe that, on this occasion, some of the other editors involved may have been associated with the "ethics in internet misogyny" crowd, and that even I look good next to them. Particularly if that cynic was me getting back to my usual unreasonable self. :-) Pinkbeast (talk) 16:53, 29 September 2015

Injector Page Edit

Hi, I'm the person who made the change to the https://en.wikipedia.org/Injector page that you recently undid. Can you tell me what your issue is with my edit? Also, I have no idea how to communicate on wikipedia here so please feel free to tell me I'm doing something wrong - literally just made an account to respond to your undo. Honestly, there are a lot of problems with the Venturi/Bernoulli pages as well as the related pages that I'd like to help fix SteveSmith98 (talk) 13:22, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

It's uncited, and there are cites to say it works as the page currently describes it. Pinkbeast (talk) 20:07, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Uncited? It was a quote from an existing citation (#10), and I clearly cited the quote. So...how is that uncited?

The citations that, as you put it, "say it works as the page currently describes" don't actually do that. If you read citation #3, which I have, it matches my edit and not the existing text.

I can't say how accurate it aligns with #4 since that's not accessible online, but my guess is not very well since the existing explanation is factually incorrect. Nevertheless, using the existing citations on the page, I have 2 of them that agree with my change, zero that agree with the existing text, and 1 that we can't evaluate because it is inaccessible.

So...do you still believe the revert is an improvement? If it makes you happier I can replace the Operation section with an exact copy/paste from existing citation #3 (instead of the copy paste from citation #10 with you rejected). Does that work?SteveSmith98 (talk) 22:09, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

I added cite #4, which does mention the Venturi effect, which is important; if the input steam remained above atmospheric pressure the water would never get into the combining cone at all. Much of the page is confused because it can't quite decide if it's about boiler injectors or other devices. Pinkbeast (talk) 22:30, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Can you directly quote cite #4 to me then?

The article says "reducing its pressure to below atmospheric which enables it to entrain a fluid" implying (perhaps unintentionally?) that low-pressure is necessary to entrain the fluid. Low pressure might be required to get the fluid up into the combining cone, but per cite 3 and cite 10 it has nothing to do with the entrainment - they clearly state that's momentum exchange via friction/viscosity.

Also, in your statement, "which does mention the Venturi effect, which is important; if the input steam remained above atmospheric pressure" - low pressure is only required in a lifting injector. It's not required in a non-lifting injector. Furthermore, what support do you have for your assertion that the low-pressure (in lifting injects) is a result of the Venturi effect rather than simple viscosity?SteveSmith98 (talk) 00:01, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Battle of Talas

Hello. See the page https://en.wikipedia.org/Byzantine%E2%80%93Sasanian_War_of_602%E2%80%93628 There that parameter is using not just standart terms Victory or Inconclusive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shahanshah5 (talk • contribs) 05:02, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Feel free to suggest fixing that on the talk page of that article, but don't commit the error elsewhere just because you found it committed somewhere. Pinkbeast (talk) 07:01, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Don't Revert

You made mention of some discussion, but a discussion involves two or more people. A discussion never happened. Just because you feel something isn't notable doesn't make it so. There are lots of notable people, events, etc. without an article. I don't want to get into a revert war. So don't revert. Mr. C.C._{I didn't do it!} 05:59, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

It is you who failed to discuss it, so unless you do, I see no reason your inclusion of apparently non-notable entries should stand. If need be I'll launch an RFC which will, of course, agree with me that the article should be organised in common with the overwhelming majority of list articles. Pinkbeast (talk) 20:41, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

False flag

I don't understand why you think the Rhine confederation flag Is a "fictional flag" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:900B:112:9C00:DCF1:FC33:79EE:4029 (talk) 02:29, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

• There is discussion on the talk page. Drmies (talk) 02:32, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Actually pinkbeast and Drmies there is a reason I did all those edits. its because of the flags like the second Saudi state, Hungary, and confederation of the Rhine I didn't want the flags to be removed just like how Yemen's 1923 flag was removed. I hope you two understand.

I have no idea what you're alluding to with "how Yemen's 1923 flag was removed", but as Drmies says, Talk:Confederation of the Rhine explains very clearly how that flag is fictional. It might be better to discuss it there if you have any reason to suppose it's not. Pinkbeast (talk) 22:07, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

I can't it says that" the discussion is closed please do not modify it" plus I am new in the editing stuff, that is probably why you think I am socking. even though I understand why you think that it is a fictional flag. but according to me that's not the case. Me saying that the Yemen flag from 1923-1927 was removed just search flags of Yemen and you will see

Talk:Confederation of the Rhine does not say anything of the kind, so please explain yourself there (I think you may be seeing that text on an entirely different discussion on User_talk:Drmies). It seems unlikely to me now you are a sock since the other person restoring the fictitious flag has never used a talk page at all, although it does also seem unlikely you are an expert on Napoleonic-era flags. If you want to refer me to something pertaining to the flag of Yemen, please provide a link. Pinkbeast (talk) 22:38, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Having looked, if you mean this removal, then the image was removed from Commons because there was no information about its source. Obviously when the image didn't exist anymore, there was no point in the page referring to it, but also this is an entirely different case to this one where I have removed the flag from Misplaced Pages pages because there is no reason to suppose it is authentic. Pinkbeast (talk) 22:47, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

You might be right pinkbeast but besides the confederation of the Rhine. I have been concerned over the flag change on the second Saudi state and the early flags of Hungary and many more.

Then use the talk pages of those articles, not my talk page, to discuss why the changes are not appropriate. Pinkbeast (talk) 02:51, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

St Marys Page

Hi, I noticed you keep disputing the headteacher section that I'm trying to upload to the St Mary's School, Gerrards Cross. All headteachers up to 1960 are in the book I originally referenced, the rest are archived in writing in the school itself. I don't see the problem. Elderpoptarts (talk) 20:32, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

The book you referenced for headteachers up to the 1970s, you mean? I can only go by the cites actually provided, and the cites actually provided were a book published in 1960 for events in the 1970s (so I know you're willing to list a cite that doesn't actually support the material in the article) and some cites that didn't actually list the dates in question.

To boot, the list of headteachers doesn't really seem to merit inclusion. None of them are notable in the Misplaced Pages sense. Pinkbeast (talk) 21:45, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

CV

Hi, I only changed the wording in the St Mary's School, Gerrards Cross article because according to Earwig's copyright detector, that whole section about Gwyneth Bebb is copied from Attain News. I've rewritten it, if you don't like it fix it but don't revert it back. Thank you. JC7V (talk) 07:00, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Right. Had I known it was a copyvio I would not have reverted it the first time. I presume you have checked the rest of the page. Pinkbeast (talk) 07:02, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

However, it would help if you had read my edit summary. Bebb v Law Society _did not_ open the legal profession to women. Pinkbeast (talk) 07:03, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Bani j

Please stop put a useless picture of her the 2010 picture is better then the 2017 one. You need to stop doing vandalism and we are not all going to go by ur wish all the time. If you do this again I will report you to a admin to block you. Gurbani Judge thanks I hope you understand.

A 2017 picture is obviously better since, unless it is somehow unrepresentative, it is more like her appearance in 2018. As regards your silly threat, go ahead. You may be surprised by the outcome, especially after making a spurious accusation of vandalism. Pinkbeast (talk) 19:58, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

The 2017 image has been deleted as copyvio. It seems astonishingly that if you had a perfectly good reason for not using it you'd start by coming here and issuing bogus threats! Pinkbeast (talk) 23:40, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

They deleted it because of you and I’m happy they did it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.150.219.227 (talk) 19:22, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

No, it was deleted because it was a copyright violation. Pinkbeast (talk) 01:47, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Nawab Khwaja Abid Siddiqi

Hello Pinkbeast,

Could you please merge the 2 pages : https://en.wikipedia.org/Kilich_Khan and https://en.wikipedia.org/Nawab_Khwaja_Abid_Siddiqi

As both pages "refer" to the same person. Sakura6977 (talk) 08:40, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

I've no special powers there. See Misplaced Pages:Merging to propose a merge. Pinkbeast (talk) 04:23, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, had to place a template and probably wait for someone to do the merge.Sakura6977 (talk) 10:11, 13 December 2018 (UTC) thanks again!

A kitten for you!

lol not sure if u r a cat person :P

But the Cat is sooo cute..

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This message has been spammed across several hundred talk pages. I would be grateful if the spammer could be dissuaded forthwith. Pinkbeast (talk) 15:56, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

I have reverted all talk page edits that were the latest revisions of the pages, and asked the editor to stop. Whether that will have any effect remains to be seen. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk)

Thank you. Pinkbeast (talk) 17:07, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Still at it, with a suggestion (extraordinary to me) that this is normal practice and perfectly acceptable. Pinkbeast (talk) 04:36, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

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Help with my sandbox draft

Hello Pinkbeast, This is regarding the draft in my sandbox: User:Sakura6977/sandbox I do not have rights to post this template on Nizam of Hyderabad page, being an experienced wikieditor, can you please review it and post it for me? Sakura6977 (talk) 08:27, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

There is an extremely prominent button there to submit the draft for review. Pinkbeast (talk) 20:11, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

True, but I don't fit in the criteria and believe you do qualify for the same.

https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Participants Sakura6977 (talk) 21:26, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

You can submit it for review yourself by pressing that button. Once it is submitted, you should not try to jump the queue by pestering reviewers. Much less should you pester people who aren't reviewers, like me.

I fear you have somehow got the impression that I am available to assist you. Pinkbeast (talk) 04:11, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Thought it's best to take your help as I don't know any wikieditor who could assist me. I was stuck at some place, unsure "how" to proceed. Will somehow try figuring out. wiki must do. Apologies for "pestering" you. Thank you. Sakura6977 (talk) 07:52, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

All you have to do is press the very prominent button to submit the draft for review. There is nothing to figure out. Pinkbeast (talk) 17:28, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

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Restoring taiping flag

Pinkbeast is it okay if I restore the taiping heavenly kingdom flag since the creator of the article knows that it had a flag. besides that how was your Christmas? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:900B:112:9C00:754E:B677:2C80:3EB6 (talk) 18:06, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

The creator of the article is not a reliable source and the flag you have added is marked "This flag is fictitious or proposed", so obviously it should not be added. Pinkbeast (talk) 21:53, 27 December 2018 (UTC)I guess I was wrong the flag is fictitious I fully understand

Please stop the edit war.....

Could both you and @Sakura6977: Please stop this edit war?

Please stop disruptive edits- see WP:AVOIDEDITWAR, WP:DISRUPTSIGNS, and allow me to put this WP:NPOV. Please WP:AGF.

TBH, Sakura6977 too has got a point, but doesn't respond on talkpage when you've given her ample time to respond. (probably didn't keep tabs on the talkpage). So as wiki editors lets respect each other and work towards a WP:NPOV. On the other hand, you see to do disruptive editing WP:DISRUPTSIGNS. (looks like both of you might be taking it way too personally)

Sakura6977, you need to keep tabs on the talkpage whichever pages you leave a comment on. Not necessary that experienced editors have all the time in the world to wait until you respond!

Please allow me to rephrase those changes on the topic thereby arriving to a WP:NPOV. I conclude giving an honest, big thanks to both of you for your efforts.

Warm Regards, Anil Pandya

Peter Davies (politician)

I see the Scots nationalists are listed as Scottish ie Alex Salmond so listing English Democrats as English doesn't seem to be too unreasonable. Unibond (talk) 15:14, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Put that one back if you like - I was trying to deal with a fairly indiscriminate bulk block of changes. Pinkbeast (talk) 20:08, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

I reverted but am not convinced it is justifiable, could really do with a secondary source Unibond (talk) 20:50, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

An alternative (which I would be completely fine with) would be to leave it out of the lead altogether. Pinkbeast (talk) 02:38, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

EcoHouse Group

When did Private Eye suddenly become anything other than a rumour-mongering gossipy rag bordering on Libel ?! Are they self-regulated by IPSO? Are they regulated by IMPRESS? (Private Eye was anyway factually wrong because 'Scotland Yard' doesn't investigate alleged fraud committed by the UK companies, because a UK company is legally-speaking in England and Wales, under English law, (generally considered) incapable of committing fraud, only named private individuals (or 'persons unknown') are; and it is anyway generally investigated by the City of London Police and the Serious Fraud Office rather than by the Yard (the Met, a separate force) ... since the majority of the alleged cases took place in Singapore rather than in England and Wales, it falls under the jurisdiction of the Singapore Police Force and other law enforcement authorities in Singapore, if any, and the Yard would anyway have (ordinarily) no jurisdiction otherwise.) -- 194.207.146.167 (talk) 10:48, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

I think you'll find that RSN is generally positive about Private Eye (which to my knowledge was the first publication to expose the Ecohouse scam) and if in doubt it might have been better to ask there than just to blindly remove material. However, since the scam is now long defunct, if you don't intend to do the right thing, too bad. Pinkbeast (talk) 13:44, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Frank Dux

Hi Pinkbeast. Just FYI page 3 of the May 1, 1988 LA Times report listed in the article says that Frank Dux refused to reveal his age, though the journalist adds that he is 32. This would put his date of birth between 2 May 1955 and 1 May 1956. I don't know if it's appropriate lo list his date of birth at 1955-1956 though, and i figured close enough was better than no data, so I put in 1956. Happy to leave the year out entirely though.

P.S Are you affiliated with Pinkman on YouTube? Just curious. Damien Linnane (talk) 10:32, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

I think it would be best to put "1955-1956", since that's what's known, and cite it to that newspaper article (because otherwise it will be removed as uncited material in a BLP).

I've never heard of this person, sorry. Pinkbeast (talk) 15:16, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll add the year citing the article. No worries, Pinkman on Youtube has a series of videos about Dux so I just thought the username was a bit of a coincidence. All good. :) Damien Linnane (talk) 17:20, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Well I ended up finding an actual date of birth that was sourced. Anyway, I think I've finished working on the article. Since you've been making edits to the page for a lot longer than i have, can you let me know if you see any issue or shortfalls in it as it currently stands? I'd like to nominate it for GA but thought I'd ask for a second opinion first. Cheers. Damien Linnane (talk) 10:27, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

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Julian Lennon

I cannot see how any of my copy in the new lede can be classified as Peacockery. All of it is fully referenced in the main article, with cites. Valetude (talk) 00:08, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

"Hit-album" isn't even in English, but the question is more whether this is being given undue weight in the lead. Some of his albums were moderately successful; that doesn't mean we have to call them "hit-albums". The awards for the film are listed at a self-cited source - are these major awards? Did independent sources report on the film getting the awards? That the photography exhibitions are "major" is mere assertion. Pinkbeast (talk) 22:57, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Oops!

Hi, Pinkbeast. I think you made a mistake on the Quranism article. You restored content on the Quranism article (put there by Quranism) similar to the content that you removed on the Yan Tatsine article (also put there by Quranism). I know it can be hard trying to keep up with all of his edits! :-) 2602:306:CC8F:65A0:D131:B842:31A2:CAE3 (talk) 03:52, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Oops indeed. Pinkbeast (talk) 03:55, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

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Infobox

I know you havent made any edits to the infobox yet, so you possibly are aware of the sanctions, but yes, in case your not aware (I wasn't myself) any edits to infoboxes are under sanctions- everyone at the Australian Talkpage a formal notice dropped on their talkpages awhile back when there was a bit of an editwar. So expect the admins will be quick to step in if anything starts up- I suspect that's why evryone is staying away from it and sticking to the editorial section. Curdle (talk) 10:22, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Can you follow the Misplaced Pages:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle please?

Hello Pinkbeast would you stop with the constant reverts of this bold edit in The Australian article and follow Misplaced Pages:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. It is edit warring and very uncivil. It is a BOLD edit and it was reverted and we are in the middle of discussing it. Would you please self revert as a sign of good faith and respect to fellow editors before it goes any further? Merphee (talk) 07:43, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

It's cited content, so leave it in while it's discussed. Stop weeping crocodile tears about edit warring; you have been perfectly willing to edit war on that article, more than anyone, which is why you're just back from a block for 3RR and narrowly escaped another one.

As for civility, you're a fine one to talk about civility - and nothing has changed; in a typically oblivious fashion, you're weeping crocodile tears about civility with a comment where you write "piss off" on the same page. Pinkbeast (talk) 07:46, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

It is cited content, but these three sources have been cited in this section since last August, when Curdle put them there. If we lose this first sentence that everyone is battling over, we're not losing the sources, one of which - The Guardian - I think is pertinent and useful. Check out the current first and last sentences in the section. Exact same sources. I think we can usefully keep the consensus wording and their sources and discuss ways to create a summary out of all the sources and material. Otherwise we're just going to have continued disruption in the article. --Pete (talk) 08:56, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

There's really nothing besides Merphee's constant edit warring (and lying about not wanting to edit war) stopping this being left in while we talk about it.

I am quite willing to have a sensible discussion about it, which might quite reasonably result in it being changed or removed, but it is practically impossible to do so with this constant stream of IDHT from Merphee. Pinkbeast (talk) 00:21, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

March 2019

Your recent editing history at The Australian shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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I'm warning all the editors involved in this conflict. MrClog (talk) 14:08, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Frank Dux

You do realise that in the Early life section of Frank Dux there is a citation from soldier of Fortune magazine stating that Frank Dux was born in Toronto, Canada. Dwanyewest (talk) 20:59, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Well, I do now and have left it be. Pinkbeast (talk) 15:16, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

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Indoor Positioning System

Why are you constantly removing the SVIPE section? It is a paper that describes the solution for inside positioning. It is referenced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.106.6.9 (talk) 19:55, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

What it appears to be is a blog entry in the format of a paper. If it's actually a paper, cite it to a reputable journal. Pinkbeast (talk) 05:05, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Removing Non-Notable Festivals of Manitoba

I am not going to revert, but you removed a number of notables festivals from the List of festivals in Manitoba. Rockin' the Fields of Minnedosa is one of them. It is one of the premiere rock festivals in Manitoba and has been around for a good 15 years. Mr. C.C._{I didn't do it!} 04:00, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Feel free to re-add it once it has a Misplaced Pages page, which if it is notable should be straightforward. In the context of this sort of list, "notable" means "has a Misplaced Pages page". Pinkbeast (talk) 06:28, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

You're logic is a flawed. You talk about having a page, but you left one on the list which is redlinked. It is hollow and pointless to say things if you are not going to follow it. Mr. C.C._{I didn't do it!} 16:01, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Or maybe I just failed to notice that one; the right response to which is to remove it, not to once again re-add one without a Misplaced Pages page. Pinkbeast (talk) 00:14, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Ignoring it when you removed the others is a terrible excuse. Oh, and just because you think something isn't notable doesn't mean it actually is. You are not the end all and be all. Mr. C.C._{I didn't do it!} 04:41, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

So, once again, in lists of this kind on Misplaced Pages, "notable" means "has a Misplaced Pages page". I am, obviously, quite able to discern whether or not this festival has a Misplaced Pages page.

It may be a "terrible excuse" but it does happen to be true. I just missed that one. Pinkbeast (talk) 13:32, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:38, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

we happy few

just throwing this out there, but if you think it adds to how long the plot is, then you might as well remove the DLC section. no offense, just saying. Sorry. Wait that came out wrong. If I'm out of line, just write "You are on thin Ice" and I'll stop. just remember that I only wanted to make the "lightbearer" section in keeping with the previous section. I know I didn't the rules here seriously, but I realize that now. I admit I was wrong. If you tell me I am standing on thin Ice(if I go too far), I will sign out, and never come back. would you like that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Godzillafan4ever (talk • contribs) 05:55, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

You are on thin ice. Pinkbeast (talk) 08:20, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

August 2019

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like you to assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not do on The Australian. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. SharabSalam (talk) 09:58, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Remind me how many blocks for edit warring you have? You were lucky, frankly, not to get banned when you directly lied in an unblock request, saying you weren't going to edit war on one particular subject which you did immediately after getting unblocked. Liars are not welcome on this talk page. Pinkbeast (talk) 14:53, 9 August 2019 (UTC)