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	:::If you look in the Other Links section the link includes videos from YouTube and similar websites. This is probably why the above has been posted. --] 18:18, 8 November 2006 (UTC)		:::If you look in the Other Links section the link includes videos from YouTube and similar websites. This is probably why the above has been posted. --] 18:18, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
	::::I have a list of articles with YouTube links in them... it was generated from a database dump by a diffrent user and might be a week or two old. There seem to be no link in the article now... so feel free to ignore the message. :) ---] (]\|]) 23:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)		::::I have a list of articles with YouTube links in them... it was generated from a database dump by a diffrent user and might be a week or two old. There seem to be no link in the article now... so feel free to ignore the message. :) ---] (]\|]) 23:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

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			"Lyrics
			Arctic Monkeys are generally considered part of the indie rock scene alongside similar contemporary guitar bands such as The Libertines, The Futureheads and Franz Ferdinand. The lyrics of Arctic Monkeys songs often feature social realism and observations of working class life, as typified by "When The Sun Goes Down", described as a "witty, poignant song about prostitution in the Neepsend district of Sheffield", and "A Certain Romance", an attack on chav culture, which have led to comparisons with other acts, especially British rapper The Streets and older artists Morrissey and Jarvis Cocker, both of which are known for their combination of observational lyrics and humour.

			The lead singer, Alex Turner, sings in a strong Yorkshire accent, typified by the contraction of "something" to "summat", the replacement of "everything" and "nothing" with "owt" (/aʊt/) and "nowt" (/naʊt/) and the use of Northern slang such as "mardy" for "grumpy, difficult, unpredictable". Their songs also include frequent references to popular culture both common and obscure; Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not includes references to Romeo and Juliet, "Rio" by Duran Duran, and Frank Spencer, from Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em, leading one journalist to describe than the band as having a "camp retro-futurist fascination" for 1980s popular culture."

			:Is prostitution working class? Or is it social realism, maybe two lyric examples would be better, one for each. Is 'chav' linked before this appearance? Is the humour an observation of satire? Doesn't quite tie together. I'd like more examples from their lyrics for all of your comments, like you did in the second paragraph above, you need quotes on the song title, you need some possessives where they're missing. I actually think your prose is fine, the biggest problem is you need to rewrite a bit, using your own word to flesh out your research, as if you were explaining this band to ''my'' Deep South American mother-in-law. I think it will get there, but I haven't read the whole article, just don't have time. ] 18:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

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Chris McClure

Chris McClure is mentioned like we are suppose to know who he is. Could someone please elaborate? I'm talking about the caption where there album pic is. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.113.82.45 (talk • contribs) 11:59, 26 August 2006.

The relevance of Chris McClure is explained in the main article text. DJR (T) 17:46, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Beneath The Boardwalk

Added as compilation. Poiuytre 16:38, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

YouTube links

This article is one of thousands on Misplaced Pages that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed or you would like to help spread this message contact us on this page. Thanks, ---J.S (t|c) 06:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Not only are there no links to YouTube in this article, but the Arctic Monkeys article is not even mentioned in the link you provided. I realise AWB was used to produce the message, but I would appreciate some sort of clarification of your position. DJR (T) 11:18, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

If you look in the Other Links section the Arctic Monkeys video clips link includes videos from YouTube and similar websites. This is probably why the above has been posted. --Fozi999 18:18, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I have a list of articles with YouTube links in them... it was generated from a database dump by a diffrent user and might be a week or two old. There seem to be no link in the article now... so feel free to ignore the message. :) ---J.S (t|c) 23:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

FAC Comments

"Lyrics Arctic Monkeys are generally considered part of the indie rock scene alongside similar contemporary guitar bands such as The Libertines, The Futureheads and Franz Ferdinand. The lyrics of Arctic Monkeys songs often feature social realism and observations of working class life, as typified by "When The Sun Goes Down", described as a "witty, poignant song about prostitution in the Neepsend district of Sheffield", and "A Certain Romance", an attack on chav culture, which have led to comparisons with other acts, especially British rapper The Streets and older artists Morrissey and Jarvis Cocker, both of which are known for their combination of observational lyrics and humour.

The lead singer, Alex Turner, sings in a strong Yorkshire accent, typified by the contraction of "something" to "summat", the replacement of "everything" and "nothing" with "owt" (/aʊt/) and "nowt" (/naʊt/) and the use of Northern slang such as "mardy" for "grumpy, difficult, unpredictable". Their songs also include frequent references to popular culture both common and obscure; Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not includes references to Romeo and Juliet, "Rio" by Duran Duran, and Frank Spencer, from Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em, leading one journalist to describe than the band as having a "camp retro-futurist fascination" for 1980s popular culture."

Is prostitution working class? Or is it social realism, maybe two lyric examples would be better, one for each. Is 'chav' linked before this appearance? Is the humour an observation of satire? Doesn't quite tie together. I'd like more examples from their lyrics for all of your comments, like you did in the second paragraph above, you need quotes on the song title, you need some possessives where they're missing. I actually think your prose is fine, the biggest problem is you need to rewrite a bit, using your own word to flesh out your research, as if you were explaining this band to my Deep South American mother-in-law. I think it will get there, but I haven't read the whole article, just don't have time. KP Botany 18:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

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