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::Thank you. I will check that list. However, the whole idea of reliable vs. unreliable sources is highly subject. One would expect the White House to be reliable, yet Donald Trump has been accused of telling over 10,000 lies since he was elected. The Pentagon, which should be reliable, led the US. into wars in 1964 and 2003 based on what they knew were lies. On the other hand, Donald Trump insists that neither the NY Times, Washington Post, NBC, or CNN is reliable--he regularly calls them fake news. | ::Thank you. I will check that list. However, the whole idea of reliable vs. unreliable sources is highly subject. One would expect the White House to be reliable, yet Donald Trump has been accused of telling over 10,000 lies since he was elected. The Pentagon, which should be reliable, led the US. into wars in 1964 and 2003 based on what they knew were lies. On the other hand, Donald Trump insists that neither the NY Times, Washington Post, NBC, or CNN is reliable--he regularly calls them fake news. | ||
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Hernán Cortés
Why the addition of "see also"s? You added Cuernavaca, Morelos, Palace of Cortés, Tenochtilán. I can see maybe adding the last (he did conquer and destroy that city - but it's already linked in the text referencing that), but the first three? He happened to live in Cuernavaca, Morelos for a while. That doesn't mean we need a "See also" entry for those locations. That's like saying an article about GW Bush needs a "see also" for Texas, which is pretty absurd.
A "See Also" section should be articles which have notable chunks of information on the subject of this article, not already covered in this article. Not simply be a laundry list of things the article subject touched on. Tarl N. (discuss) 05:03, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
I would say he didn't simply live in Cuernavaca for a while--it was the center of his operation after he was turned down for Viceroy. He built two haciendas in the city (including the first sugar mill in Nueva Espana), what is said to be the first church on the continent, and the first civil building (Palace of Cortes) in Nueva Espana--which is where his wife lived and his legitimate children were born and lived until adulthood.
Battles in Cuauhnahuac (Cuernavaca) and Huaxtepex (Oaxtepec), both in Morelos, were key to the conquest of Tenochtitlan.
Since Tenochtitlan is referenced elsewhere, I'll remove it from the "See also" list; I'll also remove the Cuernavaca and Morelos references since they I can see your point about things that are touched upon in the article. However, the palace does seem to be important to the story of Cortes, and the article gives a fairly extensive description of why, when, and how it was built.Michael E Nolan (talk) 05:46, 4 January 2019 (UTC)Michael E Nolan
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Thank you. I believe the article you linked to is an earlier version of what I wrote since it is actually dated 2013-2015, and one point in particular is different. I will rewrite the parts that may be seen as plagiarism.Michael E Nolan (talk) 15:41, 18 January 2019 (UTC)Michael E Nolan
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- What unreliable source are you talking about? CNN? Huffington Post?Michael E Nolan (talk) 20:58, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not talking about sources, I'm talking about Template:Editnotices/Page/2019 El Paso shooting which I have applied to the article. El_C 21:04, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
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- In what way is adding a birthdate inflammatory? Two of the citations you complain about were from one of the most prestigious newspapers in Mexico?Michael E Nolan (talk) 22:32, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
- See WP:DOB
- You changed the date of birth by choosing an unreliable source over an apparently reliable one .
- I didn't indicate any problems with newspapers, but then there were so very many problems that maybe I made a mistake somewhere in either identifying a proper diff of your using an unreliable source, or reverting such edits. If you'll point them out, I'm happy to look them over.
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- Thank you. I will check that list. However, the whole idea of reliable vs. unreliable sources is highly subject. One would expect the White House to be reliable, yet Donald Trump has been accused of telling over 10,000 lies since he was elected. The Pentagon, which should be reliable, led the US. into wars in 1964 and 2003 based on what they knew were lies. On the other hand, Donald Trump insists that neither the NY Times, Washington Post, NBC, or CNN is reliable--he regularly calls them fake news.
- WP:BLP states "Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources". This isn't a matter of debate. --Ronz (talk) 16:01, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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