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| ==Opening== | |||
| I haven't got a clue why someone's put 'The programme is now shown in Canada on the ], on weekdays at 3:00 pm Eastern-Time' under ''Disasters in Emmerdale''. Beside that, according to the CBC , Emmerdale is aired on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays. | |||
| ] 23:32, 2 October 2005 (UTC) | |||
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| In the beginning, did Emmerdale Farm air nationally? I was always under the impression that it only aired in Yorkshire for the first decade or more. ] 23:55, Aug 29, 2004 (UTC) | |||
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| Isn't the village called Beckindale? I think it's a common misconception that the village is called Emmerdale] ]] 13:12, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC) | |||
| :Don't quote me on this but I was under the impression that Beckindale was the village where Emmerdale is shot and that Emmerdale is the name of the village. One clue to the latter is that in the opening credits there is a shot of a sign saying "Welcome to Emmerdale: Please drive carefully through our village." ] 12:30, 30 October 2005 (UTC) | |||
| :Emmerdale is no longer shot in a real village. The "village" is a custom built set by Yorkshire Television in the grounds of Harewood House (the home of Lord Harewood - the Queen's cousin), Leeds. The village was called Beckindale from the outset until the plane crash. It was decided among the fictional villagers that they should rename the village after such a big disaster and they chose to name it after Jack Sugden's farm and thus Emmerdale was born as a village. | |||
| Which was absolute bollocks of course. After a major disaster the LAST thing you would do would be to re-name the village. But with the disaster the series had lost touch with reality anyway. (] (]) 21:11, 20 May 2011 (UTC)) | |||
| == Emmerdale "Second most popular British soap opera" == | == Emmerdale "Second most popular British soap opera" == | ||
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| Why this keeps being changed to say that Emmerdale is the second highest ranking soap opera is beyond me...it is still behind EastEnders on a general basis, please can you stop changing this until it becomes actual fact? Once again you need to be directed to BARB - http://www.barb.co.uk/viewingsummary/weekreports.cfm?report=weeklyterrestrial | Why this keeps being changed to say that Emmerdale is the second highest ranking soap opera is beyond me...it is still behind EastEnders on a general basis, please can you stop changing this until it becomes actual fact? Once again you need to be directed to BARB - http://www.barb.co.uk/viewingsummary/weekreports.cfm?report=weeklyterrestrial | ||
| == Filming location == | |||
| Originally, and for several years, the village of ] in ] was the location used for filming Emmerdale Farm. The local pub, known as The Falcon, became The Woolpack during filming. I'm amending the article to reflect this. Perhaps someone could determine when the location moved from Arncliffe to ]. I recall it happening in the series, which explained away the change of appearance to The Woolpack by having it move to new premises - I think. ] 20:48, 28 September 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ==The Cardigans== | |||
| I've also taken out the 'Emmerdale was also the title of the debut album by The Cardigans' rubbish from the end of the article, where it is totally misplaced, and put it at the top. | |||
| I have revetred your edit, as I believe that the soap is fae more than the album. At the end is quite appropriate given this fact, and given that anything else looks like using this page to promote the band, which we do not want to do, ] 03:02, 11 October 2005 (UTC) | |||
| == Emmerdale in Canada == | |||
| The CBC shows 3 episodes a week. The episode lag is now 4 years and will only continue to grow :( ] 14:02, 7 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == TV magazine in Noreen's house == | |||
| Can anyone confirm what the name of the programme was that replaced Emmerdale in the 7pm ITV1 slot in the TV magazine that Val found in Noreen's house? Best I could make out it was "Castle Bridge" but if anyone could confirm or dispute this I would be grateful. ] 23:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Video Specials == | == Video Specials == | ||
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| These productions were released on VHS PAL video in the UK but have not been released on DVD as yet. | These productions were released on VHS PAL video in the UK but have not been released on DVD as yet. | ||
| ==Locations== | |||
| Article descibes location taping in Arncliffe and later in Esholt, followed by a switch to a purpose-built set. Were these changes addressed in the storyline, and if so, how? Presumably the place crash in 1993 destroyed much of the town and the storyline was at least partly designed to explain a change in the appearance of the town when it switched locations (presumbly to the purpose built set?) However the article says nothing about this. ] 11:07, 30 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Avril Kent AFD == | |||
| An Emmerdale character, ], has been nominated for deletion. ] 18:08, 22 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == WikiProject class rating== | |||
| This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. ] 10:43, 10 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Trivia == | |||
| I removed the trivia section, moving one item to the Filming Locations section and moving the others here, as I don't believe they are notable: | |||
| * All of the main characters in '']'' were avid fans of ''Emmerdale''. When ''Emmerdale Farm'' changed its name to ''Emmerdale'', the characters mused that this might be because it shortened the time needed for the audience to read its name, providing the writers with more screen time to fill with story arcs. | |||
| * In the episode broadcast on ] 2006, Val Lambert visits Noreen Bell's house for the first time since Noreen was killed in the blast. She picks up a television magazine turned to the day of the disaster. While most of the schedule is as would normally be expected on a Thursday night, the 7pm slot on ITV shows a programme called ''Castle Bridge'' rather than ''Emmerdale''. The magazine also schedules '']'' at 8pm, where it would normally be broadcast, however, for this week only, it was actually replaced with '']''. | |||
| ] (]) 08:07, 29 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Splitting off lists == | |||
| I noticed that this article was dominated by long lists of things such as exactly how many episodes had been broadcast each year, ever disaster, major storyline, etc., etc. I think that this really spoilt the quality of the article, so to make things a lot neater I have split these all off onto separate articles. This means that we can keep the content that people have obviously gone to a lot of effort over while keeping the main article short(ish) and to the point. This may also give people the scope to extend further on the lists etc. without compromising the quality and preciseness of the main article. I hope that people feel that the changes I have made are an improvement. ]] 00:08, 24 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Sandra Thomas == | |||
| Don't watch Emmerdale, so can't verify/speedy, the article, but ] has been created. Could someone confirm/deny and take appropriate action (sourcing etc) for this article ] (]) <small>—Preceding ] was added at 17:11, 30 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| ==The Opening Paragraph== | |||
| Could someone please clarify the opening sentence? It makes it appear that Emmerdale, Coronation Street, and Eastenders are the same program? ] (]) 13:10, 14 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :It was vandalism which has now been reverted. <span style="border:1px solid blueviolet;font-size:70%;padding:2px;">] | ]</span> 13:11, 14 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ==Broadcast delay== | |||
| In some outside scenes this evening (14 Jan) the season was clearly autumn with appropriate foliage colours etc. and no sign of the snow which I imagine blankets the area at the moment. Is any information available indicating how long after filming an episode is broadcast? If so, perhaps this should be added under Scheduling. ] (]) 19:40, 14 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == Awards == | |||
| The tables in the awards section are taking up room in the article and I was wondering if anyone else thinks it would be better if they were moved to a seperate article, say ]? - ] ] 17:03, 15 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :As an aside - it may be best to combine then into a single table as the varying widths of the different tables is very distracting. ] (]) 19:20, 15 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ::Instead of a single table, as there are different awards, the table widths should just be tweaked so they all look the same. - ] ] 20:12, 15 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ==Disasters== | |||
| Ok i have just removed a silly comment and I have realised that there are other storylines listed as disasters that are more accidents than disasters. Maybe somone would also like to highlight which other ones should be removed or put under a sub cat as memorable accidents? ] (]) 21:53, 27 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
| :I've renamed it as 'disasters and dramatic stunts' just to clarify. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:15, 21 January 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| Why worry about the title of it, the whole lot is unsourced. Here is a source for anyone interested - ] <small>]</small> 02:42, 23 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
| == Beckindale's county == | |||
| Is Beckindale supposed to be in ]. It has always been filmed in West Yorkshire first in ] and now in ] (with indoor scenes now done at ]). These areas however are not remotely like the setting which is supposed to rural and away from any large city. Esholt is on the outskirts of Bradford and Harewood is just North of Leeds. In reality there is not such remote communities in West Yorkshire, even similar looking areas around ] and such are only just outside of Bradford. | |||
| It's setting is no doubt within the former ] but is unlikely to be in the mostly urban (with patches of semi-rural areas) county of West Yorkshire. I have always assumed it is on the fringes of the dales, possibly near Skipton. | |||
| The nearby town of Hotten is generally filmed in ] and around North Leeds. The town hoever I think is supposed to be a little more remote than Otley. | |||
| I don't think the exact location has been made explicit, but I could be wrong. ] (]) 15:35, 6 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
| The impression I got from watching the show in 1970s and 80s was that it was meant to be set in North Yorkshire actually in the Yorkshire Dales. The exteriors of the village of Beckindale were originally shot in Arncliffe in North Yorkshire prior to relocation to Esholt, Bradford in 1976. But where the scenes are actually filmed are really irrelevant since it is fictional fantasy - The village, Hotton and Skipdale etc don't exist. If Grange Hill can magically move from London to Liverpool anything is possible LOL. (] (]) 16:10, 16 November 2010 (UTC)) | |||
| I have found no reference here to the possible etymology of the name "Emmerdale", which seems to me to derive from the French "emmerder" (= to bother or to cover with faeces ), while "dale" is "valley", so the whole term means "troublesome vale" or maybe "valley covered with dung". ajw ¬¬¬¬ <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:19, 22 March 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| == Opening title section == | |||
| I rather suspect the whole section about opening titles and so forth is based on a personal observation and is therefore ]. For example, are those new titles really called "A JAZZY BREEZE"? "The title music has been completely jazzed up but still has the homely feeling in it." - hmm, is this from a review somewhere or just a personal opinion? ''']''' <small>''']'''</small> 16:48, 31 July 2011 (UTC) | |||
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| :This section appears to have been deleted. But we should still know who wrote the theme tune. ] (]) 10:43, 9 May 2019 (UTC) | |||
| == Tricia Dingle == | |||
| Who's the smart alec who deleted the page about Tricia Dingle? It was on Misplaced Pages with quite a fair bit of information on it before and now it's gone. So could the person who deleted it or at least someone else please bring it back? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:03, 21 January 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Is there any need for the attitude? The article was deleted because no one contested it. The page obviously had the wrong kind of information.] <small>]</small> 20:12, 21 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
| == 6000+ episodes ??? == | |||
| Just a question. This series is known in Sweden as "Hem till gården" ("Home to the farm") and it has been shown at several channels over the years. But 6000+ episodes sounds '''very much''' even after close to 40 years. One episode per week during 40 years equals 40 x 52 = 2080. And I assume the series are not broadcasted all 52 weeks... Just a question ] (]) 18:58, 5 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :The program is broadcast 52 weeks per year and several episodes per week, the number varies but has been up to 6 days a week. I guess they count slots on same day as separate episodes so you can get 2 episodes on a day as there was today. ] (]) 20:57, 5 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
| ==Anybody still here?== | |||
| Hey, I edit a lot of Corrie and EE articles and I've noticed just how badly kept the Emmerdale articles here, is anybody still here who is editing or not? ] (]) 16:22, 19 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :I'm considering going through this article and removing a lot of the original research and general fan-cruft it contains. e.g. the year by year analysis of the end credits. It's been tagged long enough. --<font color="purple">]</font> <sup>]</sup> 15:01, 23 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :Now done this. I also removed the section of "memorable exits". It was almost entirely unsourced ] that didn't make clear any criteria for what made an exit "memorable". This inevitably meant it was simply a list of exits that one or other editor felt, ], was "memorable". Misplaced Pages doesn't reflect the opinions of its individual editors, it reflects that which is verifiable from ]. Otherwise anyone would be justified in adding the exit of any character that ever appeared on the series, and we would have a pointless and massive list. --<font color="purple">]</font> <sup>]</sup> 14:17, 26 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :Now considering "Disasters" section. This again all appears to be entirely unsourced ], and it has a pretty flexible take on what constitutes a "disaster". It's really just a list of the kind of dramatic events that are a staple of soap opera plots. Nothing to determine what decides that one plot line merits a mention over another. Also been tagged as OR for over 6 months. --<font color="purple">]</font> <sup>]</sup> 14:26, 26 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
| This article needs a major cleanup. I think the ] article could be used as a basis. ] (]) 19:40, 14 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Locations & Occupiers == | |||
| I've removed again the section about locations and occupiers. This is uncited and over-detailed ] that doesn't belong in an encyclopaedia article. It's also most likely ]. Please do not add it again without addressing these concerns here. Thanks. --<font color="purple">]</font> <sup>]</sup> 15:12, 2 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == episode count? == | |||
| In the infobox "No. of episodes" line has the text '''7016ocalurl:Template:Emmerdale episodes|action=edit}} +]]</ as of 4 November 2014))'''<br /> | |||
| Could somebody fix this? I don't know how. ] (]) 09:30, 27 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :I have fixed this for you, the template was not updated correctly. ] (]) 12:43, 27 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Vandalism etc == | |||
| Hello. I'm sorry about the fairly large revert I just did but vandalistic/joke PoV stuff has been coming and going under a cloud of (perhaps deliberate) obfuscation from other edits and their reversions. In particular - please have a look at some diffs - the bit about the "European Court" and the "title taking too long to read" has been in and out like a yoyo and has been replaced by good-faith editors combatting vandalism. This programme is not at all my topic but I'd suggest that maybe the article needs protecting for a while, and that knowledgeable editors should look carefully at its current version and see what's wrong, right or missing. <small>(I'm also sorry about my horrendous spelling in the edit summary! More haste, less speed ...)</small> Thanks and best wishes ] (]) 08:05, 23 April 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == Episode Date in Info box == | |||
| The Television Infobox guidelines can be ]. There it explains that the '''num_episodes''' field is for; | |||
| ''The number of episodes released. This parameter should only be incremented when new episodes air or when a reliable source can confirm that an episode has finished production. An inline citation is required if the total number of episodes produced is greater than the number aired, such as in the case of a show being cancelled.'' | |||
| There is no mention of a "latest update date" being included here, and having one included is non-standard. One of the great strengths of infobox is consistency, in use as well as appearance. So using a field in a way that other articles do not detracts from that. It also makes it difficult for any bots that may try to read the information. | |||
| There is a reasonable suggestion that the television infobox should contain the date of the latest episode numbered, helping ensure that the '''num_episodes''' field is not updated twice for the same episode, and allowing readers to judge how up-to-date it may be. But this would be an issue to take up on the ]. Not here, merely one article of a great many that use this infobox. It is also probably that adding this date would be in a separate field specifically for it, not an addition to the existing field. | |||
| So repeatedly adding a date to this field, despite specific requests that it is not done, with explanations why, is disruptive and not the way to improve either the article or the infobox. Thanks. --<font color="green">]</font> <sup>]</sup> 22:47, 5 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :I have again reverted this change to the infobox. The editor doing this tends to change their IP address, so perhaps repeated requests on their talk page to stop/discuss/follow the guideline is proving ineffective. --<font color="green">]</font> <sup>]</sup> 11:11, 23 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::Just a comment on this, I think it is not clear as to the meaning of the number as without knowing the guidelines there is no way of knowing this from viewing the article. I think that the template probably needs enhancing with some link, visible notes or otherwise to explain what the numbers apply to. ] (]) 13:13, 23 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::Agree completely. As it is, the lack of a date is not a great hindrance to editors, as it can be seen in the hidden note. But the template does lack something here, and the way to get it changed is ]. I've suggested that to the editor concerned, but they believe that repeatedly ignoring other editors and the guideline is the best way to get something done. --<font color="green">]</font> <sup>]</sup> 16:40, 23 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
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| == Plane Crash 'meant to evoke memories of the Lockerbie Disaster' == | == Plane Crash 'meant to evoke memories of the Lockerbie Disaster' == | ||
| This is opinion and clearly total rubbish. Unsourced as it is, it should be removed. | This is opinion and clearly total rubbish. Unsourced as it is, it should be removed. | ||
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Emmerdale "Second most popular British soap opera"
This is clearly not true.
If you visit the BARB (British Audience Research Board) site - you will see that constantly week by week, month by month and year by year that Emmerdale remains the third most popular soap opera on British television. Coronation Street and EastEnders are still both rated higher on average, just because they go head to head does not make one or the other more popular as there are a number of things that could affect it.
Here is the link for British Audience Research Board, which backs up my theory.
http://www.barb.co.uk/viewingsummary/weekreports.cfm?report=weeklyterrestrial
- I have reinstated what I imagine to be the original paragraph about it being the 3rd most popular. Anon is right, SqueakBox 19:27, May 31, 2005 (UTC)
- EastEnders has been consistently less popular, and I changed it to reflect that Emmerdale's move to #2 was recent and very well temporary. Mike H 01:24, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
In BARB's latest figures EE got 10.50, 9.96 and 9.00 in it's top 3; Emmerdal got 9.24, 8.89 and 7.81, nowhere near the popularity, so I have reverted the Custom's latest edits that imply Emmerdal is more popular. We mjust use BARB stats as everyone else does, SqueakBox 01:50, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
Why this keeps being changed to say that Emmerdale is the second highest ranking soap opera is beyond me...it is still behind EastEnders on a general basis, please can you stop changing this until it becomes actual fact? Once again you need to be directed to BARB - http://www.barb.co.uk/viewingsummary/weekreports.cfm?report=weeklyterrestrial
Video Specials
Emmerdale has over the years spawned the occasional 'video special' a familiar extra for a number of British soaps. Presumably these have not been all that successful as it has been some time since they have made one for Emmerdale.
Some of these have featured the adventures of the Dingle family. They have relatives scattered all around the world. When they go for a European holiday, they and some familiar faces go to Venice. Here they encounter Reg Holdsworth as well as the Dinglesi's who run a restaurant.
Further afield, they go to Australia in the video 'The Dingles Down Under'. Butch, Zak, Mandy and Marlon join other Emmerdale characters - notably their local band 'The Woolpackers'. This was part of the series 25th Anniversary celebrations and includes a 'making of', out-takes and some classic clips.
These productions were released on VHS PAL video in the UK but have not been released on DVD as yet.
Plane Crash 'meant to evoke memories of the Lockerbie Disaster'
This is opinion and clearly total rubbish. Unsourced as it is, it should be removed.
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Please double check your dates!
You clearly state throughout when what year production started.
If the show was first aired in 1978, it could hardly be celebrating it's 40th anniversary in 2012!
Production started in 1972, first aired in an early afternoon slot the same year.
It's blindingly simple errors that make Misplaced Pages a laughing stock. 86.168.101.155 (talk) 07:58, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- Which section is this information in? I'll amend it for you. – DarkGlow (talk) 08:09, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- @86.168.101.155: I don't see where the article states the show first aired in 1978. IP, please specify which part of the article you are referring to. Bennv3771 (talk) 08:46, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
Not done: The article does not state that the show first aired in 1978. NiciVampireHeart 21:32, 20 May 2019 (UTC)