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	Another alternative would be making ] and also mentioning it in the quickstart section. ] (]) 01:09, 2 November 2019 (UTC)		Another alternative would be making ] and also mentioning it in the quickstart section. ] (]) 01:09, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
			:Honestly, date-based is less intensive for the bot (it doesn't have to find the right numbered archive), and it's also easier IMHO to find threads for humans, too, so that's why it's the default. You're welcome to create the numbered variant, but for quick and easy, this is what I picked. -- ]<sup>(]\|]\|])</sup> 18:13, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

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"redundant" sections

Please make the documentation clarify exactly why and when NG creates "duplicate" user talk page sections, such as adding a second - identical - "October 2019" section when an editor (or even NG itself) has already created one. Please provide a succinct summary AND policy links, not just one or the other. I checked the FAQ but it didn't help. I did a casual browse of the archives and sure enough: this has been asked before. Time to improve your docs! :) Thanks CapnZapp (talk) 14:11, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

See here as to why the bot creates duplicate headings. Pinging in Cobi for your comment about improving the documentation and FAQs.-- 5 albert square (talk) 17:18, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

"age" parameter. Is it OK to do it like this: "720 (30 days)"

Hours is not intuitive for the age parameter. Days would be a lot better. But in the meantime can I put the number of days in parentheses? -- Timeshifter (talk) 05:31, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

It's not supported, and may break if things change, however, due to a quirk in the way that it looks for numbers, that might work. -- Cobi 05:41, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Need archiving bot on Commons that repairs incoming links

Only Miszabot/Sigmabot archiving is on the Commons as far as I know:

Commons:User:MiszaBot/config

Around 1100 talk pages use it on the Commons according to What links here:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/search/?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/User:MiszaBot/config&limit=500

Would it be possible for you to put Cluebot on the Commons? Or could you work with the maintainer of Miszabot/Sigmabot on the Commons to add the ability to automatically repair incoming links?

I want to add that repair functionality to this talk page:

Commons: Commons talk:Threshold of originality

-- Timeshifter (talk) 09:48, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Cluebot settings must be wrong here. It blanked the talk page

See diff. -- Timeshifter (talk) 17:15, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Because it read your ArchiveThis template examples above. I've edited them to render them inert. -- Cobi 17:23, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I substituted nowiki tags so that the wikitext is still correct in case anyone tries to copy and use the code in the left table. -- Timeshifter (talk) 04:43, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

That is, unfortunately, not enough. The bot starts looking at a template in any contiguous

{{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis

string, and will process what follows as a template. I've re-rendered it inert, but this time using nowiki tags. -- Cobi 04:51, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

I see how you did it. Thanks. -- Timeshifter (talk) 04:58, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Can this parameter be added to Cluebot III: minimum-days-before-archiving

| minimum-days-before-archiving

For example:

| minimum-days-before-archiving=30 days -- Timeshifter (talk) 08:07, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

That's what age is, except it's in hours. -- Cobi 09:59, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes, but I want more people to use User:Cluebot III. People are used to days. With Miszabot/Sigmabot it is common for the days to be changed from 14 days to 30 days to 90 days, etc. depending on how busy the talk page is. This would be an additional parameter. Unless it is possible to expand the capability of the age parameter to accept values like "30 days". -- Timeshifter (talk) 11:01, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Defaulting to date-based rather than numbered archives in JustArchiveThis

The ClueBot III docs start with a quickstart guide, which basically says to subst User:ClueBot III/JustArchiveThis and you're good to go. I think that's a great idea, but I was a little surprised to see that it sets up year/month based archives rather than numbered. Wouldn't numbered archives be better for the average user? WP:ARCHIVE says it's "the most common, and easiest" method. I would think numbered archives would be better for low-traffic talk pages, which, statistically, is most of them. Thoughts on changing JustArchiveThis to use format= %%i and a maxarchsize?

Another alternative would be making User:ClueBot III/JustArchiveThisNumbered and also mentioning it in the quickstart section. Colin M (talk) 01:09, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Honestly, date-based is less intensive for the bot (it doesn't have to find the right numbered archive), and it's also easier IMHO to find threads for humans, too, so that's why it's the default. You're welcome to create the numbered variant, but for quick and easy, this is what I picked. -- Cobi 18:13, 2 November 2019 (UTC)