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::*....and you ] can keep your clever comments to yourself! My nephew has enough to contend with without your less than smart ejaculations. Fortunately my celebrated perception alerted me to the commencement of the silly season, so with that in mind, I have put my fountain pen to writing paper and begun another of my ]. Everything one needs to know and a great deal more than necessary about the candidates. There are one or two hopefuls, though, this year, which is a great improvement on previous elections. My succinct and concise guide will save people endless hours trawling through dull questions and their less than honest replies, not to mention all those boastful statements telling porkies about themselves. ] (]) 18:16, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

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Calling for a genealogist

Are there any genealogists out there stalking my page? I have a feeling that the subject of my scintillating new page is not all he says he is. The dashing Italian marchese and cavalry officer does not seem to be in the Libro d'Oro, which doesn't necessarily mean a problem, but what is a problem is my research seems to show him being born in Shoreditch, London, which is an unusual place for members of the Italian nobility to be born. Does anyone belong to one of those expensive sites that trace people's ancestors. Giano (talk) 13:44, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

I do. If you email me the details I'll see what I can find. Cassianto 13:55, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
No secret and he's long dead. It's this man here the Marchese Piero Malacrida de Saint-August, also known as Peter Malacrida. Not only does the British BMD site show him born in Shoreditch in 1989, but this site] shows his aristocratic lineage dying out in 1763, which is very unfortunate. That he was rich and than he was a playboy is not in doubt. A lot of my sources call him "mysterious." He arrived on the London scene fully formed and then disappeared. Howver, I have found him in Dublin and dying there forty years after his "disappearance." British sources have him dying in 1980 and Irish in 1984, still calling himself a marchese. Interesting. Giano (talk) 14:02, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
I was thinking more so I can send you copies, should you wish to see them. Just confirm, is he 30? You say he was born in 1989. Cassianto 14:53, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
I've found a will of probate for a Peter Charles Malacrida who died at 28 Shrewsbury Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin, leaving an estate of £11,188. His death date is shown as 22 April 1983. Is this him? Cassianto 15:04, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Yep, you have him. Giano (talk) 15:05, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Thats a very good start because the sources have confusing dates of death, the English kill him off in 1980 and the Irish 1983. Giano (talk) 15:07, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Wonderful. I've sent you the copy. I'll have a dig about for some more. Cassianto 15:38, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
He seems to have changed his name from Piero to Pier to Peter. His wife, Nadja, is better known, but surprisingly doesn't have her own page here, Nadja Malacrida. Giano (talk) 15:43, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Giano, I have a subscription to Ancestry.com. What is your source for him having been born in Shoreditch? There is a Peter Malacrida who was born there in 1887, rather off his birth date of 1889 and he died in infancy. Obviously the wrong person. The site has a listing for "Pier Maria Malacrida" on the passenger list of a ship arriving in New York in September 1921, birth year c. 1890, nationality "Italian", occupation "journalist". He returned to the UK in January 1922. Gaetano Malacrida appears to be his father. He was a physician who lived on Lake Como and Milan and wrote several medical books. Voceditenore (talk) 16:11, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

So did I. I think this might've been in hand. Never mind. Cassianto 17:46, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Our man is Piero L M Malacrida de Saint-August, but he also called himself Pier and Peter. I suspect you have him. I found the Shoreditch birth on the UK Free BMD site, so probably is the wrong one. Giano (talk) 16:15, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Lake como area would fit nicely too with the aristocratic Malacrida's although they are using the surname plus area title surname far too early. The "de" rather than "di" is also suspicious, although if they were of Swiss origin perhaps not. Giano (talk) 16:17, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Ah yea, he gives his second forename as Maria here , so you definitely have him. Giano (talk) 16:20, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
On his marriage record to Louise Nadja Green on Ancestry.com, his full name was given as "Pier Luigi Carlo Maria Malacrida". Best Voceditenore (talk) 16:23, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Thanks that's really helpful and explains why he is Anglicised to Peter Charles on his death. Is there anything about the him being a Marchese? Giano (talk) 16:27, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
His marriage record lists his occupation as "Marquess and writer", but then that's obviously information supplied by him. Voceditenore (talk) 16:48, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
I cant find him in the Libro d’Oro, but that is far from conclusive, probably just my edition. However, it was not unknown for some people to “promote” themselves, especially if they were interior decorator type people, and Italian titles could come from various origins rather than a single monarchy which makes them harder to verify. It’s where his vast fortune came from that is interesting, and where he went after 1935 before turning up in Ireland 20 years later. He was considered “mysterious” at the time, so would be nice to solve a few puzzles. Thanks for your help. Giano (talk) 17:52, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help above. I think I’ve pretty much exhausted all sources, so I’m done with the mysterious marchese, who will have to remain a man of mystery. Shame he was a stub already as DYK May have produced some more info. Giano (talk) 09:50, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Giano, you have expanded the article well over 5 times, which means he is eligible for DYK, no probs. 13:05, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
... just needs a nom by Friday. Should I? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:13, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Your turn, I think, Gerda! Thanks! Hooks, Giano, or anyone? Johnbod (talk) 13:27, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Did you know ... that Piero Malacrida de Saint-August's first wife was far more interesting than he was? --RexxS (talk) 13:58, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
I'd be thankful for a bit more about HIM ;) - or do I really have to read the article? - I mean, yes, I'm willing to do so and curious, but right now work on one whose birthday is today, and tomorrow want to focus on Clara Schumann, because her bicentenary is on Friday, and she should look presentable ;) - She was the first piano teacher at Dr. Hoch's Konservatorium, and was pictured on a German bank note (with that building in the background), DYK? - Free concerts around her music all days of this week at the place! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
I think we’ll leave it, a: because I don’t know how to format the refs; b: it should have been about her not him; c:I smell a big rat with him and his background. Giano (talk) 15:37, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

note:

I was the one that asked for Eric's page to be protected. I notified Eric when I did. He's requested that the protection be removed. I've honored that request. I thought I should be upfront with you about it - even it it means you now think less of me. — Ched (talk) 15:41, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Piero Malacrida de Saint-August (again)

So Piero studied engineering at Leeds, but it doesn't sound like he ever worked as an engineer. Do you know when exactly he started with the interior design, and with writing about it? I ask because I have written that when he and Nadja met, he was a "journalist and former cavalry officer". And I thought I'd add something about how he started with interior design in the late 1920s. Would that be right, do you think, or was he already doing it when they met? Does Tinniswood have anything to say on the subject? Bishonen | talk 20:54, 20 September 2019 (UTC).

No, is the simple answer. Tinniswood only mentions this internationally important couple on about five pages, where they seem to have “arrived” fully formed. I’ll email you the relevant pages tomorrow. My own research suggests that Malacrida was generally more a “posh” bathroom designer than interior designer, I don’t think he ever designed any interiors at all for real people, more wealthy industrialist type people. I’ll email the pages in the morning. Giano (talk) 21:10, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Cecil Roberts

Aha! Thank you! I had just been wondering why we didn't have an article about the guy. It turns out we have! Bishonen | talk 18:48, 21 September 2019 (UTC).

Happy to help. The early 20th century poets have always poked my spirituality. Who can forget Jane Austin’s sensitive and moving words following The Battle of Balaclava? Giano (talk) 19:08, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Absolutely. "Beauty is truth, truth beauty" and so on . Bishonen | talk 20:28, 21 September 2019 (UTC).
One can’t beat an ode. As Walter de la Mare so memorably and momentously wrote, encapsulating the zeitgeist of that traumatic era:
Mummy there's a wabbit in the garden;
says Charlie whose just three.
Mummy there's a wabbit in the garden
has he come to play with me?

Who can fail to weep when reading that. Giano (talk) 21:21, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

With "poked my spirituality", did you mean "spooked my spirituality"? Bishonen | talk 21:31, 21 September 2019 (UTC).
Possibly, Yes.Giano (talk) 08:35, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Please

abide by WP:MINOR; the last edit of your's to revert me did not fit. Regards, ∯WBG 20:22, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Godric, you are being even more tiresome than usual. Please go away and write a page or try and do something useful. At the moment, for reasons best known to yourself, you are a trolling Bishonen and now trolling me. You are making a complete fool of yourself. Please stop. Giano (talk) 20:27, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

Information icon Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Misplaced Pages's policy on edit warring. The thread is Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Giano reported by User:Winged Blades of Godric (Result: ). Thank you. ∯WBG 12:27, 27 September 2019 (UTC) How surprising it is, that those who troll fro trouble generally find it. Giano (talk) 13:14, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

I appear to be secretly blocked

It woudl appear the good old days are returning to us! Giano (talk) 11:32, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

"This account is currently blocked. The latest block log entry is provided below for reference:

11:29, 13 November 2019 K6ka talk contribs blocked Giano talk contribs with an expiration time of indefinite (account creation blocked) (Suspected compromised account)

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It's not secret if there's a public log for it... @K6ka: I don't think Giano's account is compromised, he's just trying to make a point. – Joe (talk) 11:40, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
if it is not told to me: it is a secret. Don't try to justify your committee's covert activities. It won't wash here. Giano (talk) 11:42, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
K6ka isn't on ArbCom. He was responding to an AIV report. – Joe (talk) 11:47, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Oh I do apologise, I thought you were on the Arbitration Committee. Giano (talk) 11:49, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Oh dear. I've unblocked, as I can say with confidence that the account is not compromised. If it talks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's Giano. Bishonen | talk 12:06, 13 November 2019 (UTC).
    • Thank you very much. Yes, it is indeed me. How very perceptive of you to spot it. I did think Misplaced Pages had moved on a little from these subversive, silencing blocks issued by Arbs and their lackeys in secret. Probably orchestrated off-site on some clandestine chat channel I wouldn't be surprised. Poor Eric's monumental list of pages of FAs and GAs must be a huge embarrassment for them - very hard to explain. I woudl try and suppress his contributions too, if I was responsible for his absence. Giano (talk) 12:12, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
I do hope she's not blocked as well, she takes a very dim view of inefficiency amongst the staff. Giano (talk) 12:19, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. --Jehochman 16:39, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

It appears that the administrator who blocked you as a compromised account (which you're not), is now himself being suspected of being compromised. GoodDay (talk) 16:51, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Although that possibly bad-faith accusation is likely to result in a boomerang. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:52, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Evidence? K6ka has been acting weirdly for sure. Maybe they are just incompetent or malicious, instead of compromised. That's reassuring...Jehochman 17:52, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

My real life (yes, I do have one) has caused me to miss this less than exciting afternoon. It seems we are returning to the dark Wikipedian days which so many of us fought to overturn - Surreptitious blocks, off-site scheming coupled with an Arbitration Committee instructed from elsewhere. I recently noted with some joy, however, that candidates for the forthcoming election no longer have to give their private details and names to the WMF; so I encourage as many as possible to put their names forward. Giano (talk) 20:33, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Too late, the nomination period has ended. Giano, I have reverted your latest insertion of Eric Corbett's page at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee. I see what you're doing, but please stop. Bishonen | talk 20:46, 13 November 2019 (UTC).
Never mind, nobody in their right mind would wish to join that cringing, lack lustre cohort of WMF toadies. We are all better off ploughing our own furrow and doing what we know to be right. Giano (talk) 20:55, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
  • I see I missed high drama. The nerve of blanking Eric's user page. Thank you for drawing attention to it, I'm glad you are unblocked, and I've thanked Scottywong for restoring the page; I also owe thanks to all of you who assembled to express your disgust. Yngvadottir (talk) 22:48, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

If you would

Please refrain from making edits such as these, it would be appreciated. --kelapstick 20:43, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that’s the universal cure for all evil here. However, what people like you are always too stupid to see, is that if you drive people underground, they will always need to pop up for air. Moral: Treat people like worms and they will tend to behave like snakes. So don’t complain when you get bitten. Giano (talk) 21:37, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Is it a coincidence that you come here and offer a needless warning, at a time when you're nursing a candidacy at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2019/Candidates? Cassianto 21:39, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Yes. Thryduulf (talk) 21:40, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Of course it is. I believe you, if thousands wouldn't. Cassianto 21:42, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Oh well, at least he’s here, the other Arbs are disassociating themselves, on their talk pages, from Eric’s edits as fast as they can. The world hasn’t seen such hurried activity since Lady Macbeth and Pontius Pilate installed new bathrooms. Giano (talk) 21:48, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Beware, Giano, it’s the silly season. Several candidates will try to differentiate themselves by taking a hard line against “problem” editors. A better candidate strategy is to relax and avoid escalating disputes. Jehochman 01:35, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
  • ....and you young man can keep your clever comments to yourself! My nephew has enough to contend with without your less than smart ejaculations. Fortunately my celebrated perception alerted me to the commencement of the silly season, so with that in mind, I have put my fountain pen to writing paper and begun another of my highly informative election guides. Everything one needs to know and a great deal more than necessary about the candidates. There are one or two hopefuls, though, this year, which is a great improvement on previous elections. My succinct and concise guide will save people endless hours trawling through dull questions and their less than honest replies, not to mention all those boastful statements telling porkies about themselves. The Lady Catherine de Burgh (talk) 18:16, 15 November 2019 (UTC)