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I appreciate your being fair. Just like to point out that nadirali has professed to sockpuppeteering and done some post-mediation baiting in my talk page (to which I shall not respond).This, after it was HE who said he would instigate edit-warring with the assistance of Siddiqui (and, presumably,his own socks), not I . ] 06:21, 9 December 2006 (UTC) I appreciate your being fair. Just like to point out that nadirali has professed to sockpuppeteering and done some post-mediation baiting in my talk page (to which I shall not respond).This, after it was HE who said he would instigate edit-warring with the assistance of Siddiqui (and, presumably,his own socks), not I . ] 06:21, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
::Also, Nadirali persists in coterie formation with Pakistani nationalist editors even after being warned , effectively making threats against other editors (intent to mass-edit-war).] 06:38, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

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Archive
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  1. 31 October 2005 – 7 April 2006
  2. 8 April 2006 – 5 August 2006

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Archive 2

Could you confirm

That you are in agrrement with the discussion over on the Village Pump (policy) page concerning my deletion of the csd tag from the Raymond C Lemme article? Apparently, it's not vandalism.--Pussy Galore 03:25, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Bonito e Gostoso

Your best bet will be bringing this up at WP:RFCU first. If they confirm that it is a sock it can be blocked with out any further issues. JoshuaZ 03:20, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry

I misread the block log, and immediatley removed the tag when I realized my error. I'm very sorry about the indef tag. Knowing Is Half The Battle 12:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Comment Moved

hey

I don't know if you're aware but there's an issue with the G13 page (at least for me). When you search for it, it directs you to to another article. Meanwhile the page is still showing up as "G10 (Canadian Universities)" in Wiki's search engine. Might be my cookies/cache but doubt it as Ive cleared them and it's been like this for days. Thanks for the help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Buffer v2 (talk • contribs)


Question about Vaughan election

Do you know if Stan Grabowski(candidate for Ward 2 Vaughan) is the same person as Stan Grabowski (candidate for Ward 5 Toronto)http://www.stangrabowski.com . Are they one and the same or are they two differnet people with the same names? --CharteredMember 02:27, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Vaughan: Stan Grabowski, 2 Attorney’s Lane, Woodbridge, Ontario, L4L 6M6 vs. Toronto Over the years living in Ward 5, my family and I have enjoyed the lush green parks.... --ArmadilloFromHell 02:41, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Uhhh right. I'll go with Armadillo on this one. I'm not sure personally, though it's possible that he lives in Toronto but owns property in Vaughan (thus making him eligible for both) -- Chabuk 02:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

AfD Nomination: The Ale House

An article that you have been involved in editing, The Ale House, has been listed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/The Ale House. Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 21:39, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Watch where you tag

I just had to remove a speedy delete tag from a user page that I had just created from the page you were trying to delete. Pay attention to redirects. Djcartwright 20:52, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Jamaican bobsled team

I recognise that the article isn't quite featured article quality yet, but what concerns in particular made you add a cleanup tag to it? Andjam 04:24, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to Esperanza!

Welcome, Chabuk, to Esperanza! As you might know, all the Esperanzians share one important goal: the success of this encyclopedia. Within that, we then attempt to strengthen the community bonds, and be the "approachable" side of the project. All of our ideals are held in the Charter, the governing document of the association.

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Freedom house

It was simply a brilliant idea to access the freedom house and it was timely and perfect. You're a genius, thanks. Amoruso 04:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Editor review

I'll look into this sometime this week. To be honest, I'm a bit surprised you're not already an admin. CJCurrie 03:28, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

  • *sigh* Ironically, WP:RFA is not a vote, its consensus. In addition, actively soliciting "votes"/comments is, if not outright against the rules, at least seriously frowned upon by the community. Good to see that you're working hard to improve the project ED. -- Chabuk 05:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
  • I am not in violation of any rules in trying to voice my opinion. I think you are quite unfair and one-sided. These are not the qualities of an admin. Plus, you've been the center of a great deal of controversy. ED209 06:08, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

House of Yahweh

Why can't the npov edit (originally made by someone else) be posted to the talk page for discussion? Please point me to the wikipedia rules on this subject. Thank you, Hanako 18:10, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

  • There are a couple reasons. First, Misplaced Pages is not a noticeboard, so as you were looking for someone to find references in order to make it verified, it would go against that. In addition, even if it is on the Talk Page, the content itself is considered vandalism. Even its formatting lends itself to that label. Finally, we need to keep in mind that random people who make their way to this site might not understand what the difference between the article page and the talk page is, so to have that extremely PoV information sitting there is problematic. As I said in my edit summary, if you want to point people to the content in order to find references, it still exists in the edit history. -- Chabuk 02:26, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Thanks!

Of course. :) I had just assumed it was some off-wiki thing, but it doesn't make too much difference, to me. Let's hope I can keep it up. Luna Santin 06:01, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Heyy

Heyy, I'm Ace Fighter, I agree with you. [[Life with Derek does focus on both of them, Casey and Derek. Well, I'm trying to mee new people on Misplaced Pages, I love editing on it. Well drop me a line when you can! Ace Fighter 20:09, 8 November 2006 (UTC) Heyy, its me again I would like to chat with you about that, It tends to switch sides of Casey or Derek though, Like, it shows Caseys side of conflict with Derek, and vice versa. I find that family members, tend to be quite minor, yet Emily and Sam are involved in Conflicts. Well I think it tends to mention or touch on Hypocrisy and Sexism. What do you think Chabuk? ohh and thanks for calling me Ace, I had to use Ace Fighter because of Ace was taken. Well, talk to me whenever you get a chance! Ace Fighter 20:09, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

First off, you seem to be having trouble with your signature, all you need to do to have it appear properly is type ~~~~. Regarding Life with Derek, what changes are you proposing exactly? -- Chabuk 18:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Better? I forgot I don't write my username then the 4 tidles. My mistake. I don't propose anything. And please, for the future can you write your messages to me in my My Talk page? Ace Fighter 20:12, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

  • I prefer to keep all my conversations in one place, I do warn at the top of my talk page that I will respond on my own page, not on yours. -- Chabuk 21:10, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

That's kool, but I will get confused tho so i wont know and sorry for miskates Ace Fighter 22:27, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

What's this newsletter on the bottom of the page for? Ace Fighter 00:08, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, there are a couple of problems with the Life With Derek Article, to first start it off, the ver opniated article about Casey, it has a negative tone against her, and last I will be requesting that the Nora/George article be split up into to articles, until we get enough information that is. Ace Fighter 10:58, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm also considering signing up for the newsletter about helping new editors, well coaching them Ace Fighter 11:02, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

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Michael Di Biase

Councillor

So does mine. Is this an American/Canadian distinction, I wonder? CJCurrie 03:23, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest

  • No, the mayor didn't vote. It was all over the news, I'm surprised you didn't hear about it. Basically, 50 or 60 people came to protest the fact that Council was voting for the recount. The argument is that they are all in conflict of interest, simply because they did endorse Di Biase during the election. ED209 18:46, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
  • That's not a conflict of interest then. A "conflict of interest can be defined as any situation in which an individual or corporation (either private or governmental) is in a position to exploit a professional or official capacity in some way for their personal or corporate benefit." Thus, if the mayor had voted he would likely have been in a conflict of interest situation, but since the other councilors don't really have anything to gain from holding a recount, I don't really see how they're in a conflict. I understand your argument, but I don't think it applies in quite the way you want it to. The other fact that needs to be considered is, (if we take your logic as true) in this situation, all of the councilors would technically be in a conflict of interest, yet, only Council has the authority (short of a judicial order) to order a recount. Thus, since none of them stand to benefit directly from ordering a recount (in terms of financial, positions, etc) it could be argued that by all being in conflict, a decision like this was legitimate. As I said, I don't believe any of them were in conflict (except perhaps Di Biase and Jackson) but the above example is more of a "what-if" -- Chabuk 21:02, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Di Biase could have been granted a recount by the City Clerk or he could have a judge order one. Also, I would argue that because all of the Councillor who supported Di Biase, appeared on his campaign promotional materials (which included pictures and quotes), this would represent a "pecuniary" interest. Either way, it puts the councillors in a negative light. ED209 01:55, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
  • It's my understanding that a judge won't grant a hand recount until council grants a regular recount. Either way, I still disagree that it's a conflict at all. Di Biase and Jackson both didn't vote, so it seems fine to me. And I do happen to know Roberts Rules fairly well - It's kinda my job. -- Chabuk 02:40, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Royal Military College of Canada page

Hi,

You left a message advising me to start use 'show preview' because I am clogging up the edits on the Royal Military College of Canada profile. Thanks for the advice. I have done so. 11:22, 26 November 2006 (UTC) Victoria Edwards —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Victoriaedwards (talk • contribs) 10:08, 26 November 2006.</small

Move Request of The Harper cabinet

I have split the survey into two options: 28th Canadian Ministry, and 28th Canadian Cabinet, just to make the survey easier to read, and make sure everyones being understood. It would be appreciated if you would continue to participate. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk·Review Me!) 04:14, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Canadian Jewish Congress

This is often the best way to get more research on an event; move it to another article where it stands out more. That segment initially belonged to Joe Clark. Thank you! GoldDragon 19:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Michael Di Biase

Speaking of some of the ED209 scandals like the speeding tickets, Acura-BMW crash, salary comparisons, campaign donations, etc. the only way these items can be added in is if the article is expanded sufficiently. After that, the scandals can probably put it in a "trivia section" or something. But right now, there is essentially nothing on his municipal record or policies.

Its a similar story with Mel Lastman and Howard Moscoe in that most of the scandals are retained in a peripheral section, once their political careers dominate the main body. GoldDragon 19:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Williams-Sonoma

Is that store in Yorkville or Yorkdale? I've been to both and might have bumped into you without knowing! GoldDragon 04:36, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

BTW...

I just protected the Pm shef talk page with your redirect in place. No reason anybody should be removing that redirect, since aside from you (and me, obviously ;) ) I doubt anyone else would be looking at that page to see the comments placed there. Cheers. Syrthiss 14:46, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Thank you very much! I put in a RFPP but it was denied, so I'm relieved that you did that, It's been fairly annoying having to revert edits there. Thanks. -- Chabuk 16:50, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Signature

I like it - remind me of someone... :) Daniel.Bryant 08:55, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Hey, it's a great signature. Honestly, it's way more convenient than the standard, if you ask me, this should be the default. Thanks! -- Chabuk 17:35, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

CJPAC

I'm just keeping an eye on ThornhilllWatch's contributions. I do suspect he's VaughanWatch, as you suggested on his user page. -Joshuapaquin 18:23, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Fixed

Honestly, though, I doubt that deleting revisions is going to have any effect on the problem. Since it's probably a single banned user (or small group of banned users), having the information in the page history (or not) isn't going to make any difference to their ability to engage in that particular style of harrassment. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 20:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

thanks for the advise

Thankyou for advising me on keeping a cool head.I was almost tricked into getting myself blocked by users who started this whole issue .

Regarding me "creating disputes" by osting those flags,Im sorry it offends and you are free to disagree with me,but I consider that as part of free speech.Im sure you understand.

Again thanx for the advise.Nadirali 05:49, 9 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

Point

I appreciate your being fair. Just like to point out that nadirali has professed to sockpuppeteering and done some post-mediation baiting in my talk page (to which I shall not respond).This, after it was HE who said he would instigate edit-warring with the assistance of Siddiqui (and, presumably,his own socks), not I . Hkelkar 06:21, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Also, Nadirali persists in coterie formation with Pakistani nationalist editors even after being warned , effectively making threats against other editors (intent to mass-edit-war).Hkelkar 06:38, 9 December 2006 (UTC)