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:In Misplaced Pages conflict infoboxes we regularly include "support" countries as a sub-heading under "Belligerents". Just a few ongoing examples are the Syrian and Libyan civil wars. Countries only providing weapons support and not being directly involved have also been listed in the infoboxes of many past conflicts. ] (]) 01:38, 14 December 2019 (UTC) :In Misplaced Pages conflict infoboxes we regularly include "support" countries as a sub-heading under "Belligerents". Just a few ongoing examples are the Syrian and Libyan civil wars. Countries only providing weapons support and not being directly involved have also been listed in the infoboxes of many past conflicts. ] (]) 01:38, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
:But U.S. Secretary confirmed weapon supplies exactly for this conflict. It is support of Ukraine in conflict. Source: https://www.state.gov/secretary-michael-r-pompeo-with-michal-higdon-of-wcsc-tv/ "U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo: We gave them real weapons, where they could fight against the Russians" --] (]) 07:13, 19 December 2019 (UTC) :But U.S. Secretary confirmed weapon supplies exactly for this conflict. It is support of Ukraine in conflict. Source: https://www.state.gov/secretary-michael-r-pompeo-with-michal-higdon-of-wcsc-tv/ "U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo: We gave them real weapons, where they could fight against the Russians" --] (]) 07:13, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
::The Russian and American roles are not equivalent, and any attempt to portray them as such is a violation of ] and non-representative of RS. ] — ] 12:11, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

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Section sizes
Section size for War in Donbas (53 sections)
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count
Section
total
(Top) 29,560 29,560
Background 6,861 11,134
Protests 4,273 4,273
Proxy war 2,974 143,550
Militants seize towns 3,014 18,551
Sloviansk 5,281 5,281
Kramatorsk 1,561 1,561
Horlivka 3,636 3,636
Other settlements 5,059 5,059
Government counter-offensive: "the Anti-Terrorist Operation" 28,347 28,347
May 2014: post-referendum fighting 13,125 17,009
Airport battle and fighting in Luhansk 3,884 3,884
Escalation in May and June 2014 1,502 23,230
Luhansk border post siege 1,453 1,453
2 June Luhansk airstrike 2,876 2,876
Continued fighting 4,233 4,233
Russian tank incursion 7,154 7,154
Ilyushin Il-76 shoot-down 1,190 1,190
Battle of Yampil 4,822 4,822
July 2014: post-ceasefire government offensive 12,158 12,158
Fighting worsens in eastern Donetsk Oblast 4,768 4,768
Downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 4,308 4,308
Government push into Donetsk and Luhansk cities 32,205 32,205
Open war between Russia and Ukraine 131 128,559
August 2014 invasion by Russian forces 26,812 26,812
September 2014 ceasefire 13,274 13,274
November 2014 separatist elections and aftermath 10,978 10,978
Escalation in January 2015 18,428 18,428
Minsk II ceasefire and denouement 13,387 13,387
January 2017 eruption of heavy fighting and failed ceasefires 21,958 21,958
October 2019 Steinmeier formula agreement and July 2020 ceasefire 7,592 7,592
2021–2022 escalation 14,191 14,191
2022 full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine 1,808 1,808
Combatants 18 26,458
List of combatants 157 157
Russian involvement 24,353 24,353
Military aid to Ukraine 1,930 1,930
Casualties 728 11,841
Civilians 1,929 1,929
Ukrainian forces 1,553 1,553
Separatist forces 7,631 7,631
Humanitarian concerns 8,446 14,624
Displaced population 6,178 6,178
Reactions 16 19,430
Ukrainian public opinion 4,916 4,916
Russia 1,605 1,605
International reactions 413 413
Labelling of the conflict 12,480 12,480
See also 263 263
Notes 26 26
References 30 30
Further reading 661 661
External links 1,992 1,992
Total 388,128 388,128

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“the”

Please decide whether it is “Donbass” or “the Donbass” and either always omit or always use the article. 24.143.11.227 (talk) 11:37, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

English usage is not consistent in this matter. See ngrams, though these are from before the war. I think the general trend is to omit the article, though. RGloucester 16:01, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Looks like the most common usage has been “the Donbas.” , , , . Another comparison: , , , Michael Z. 2019-05-31 13:50 z

Belligerents versus suppliers in infobox

No reference showing UK is a belligerent. There's no way that supplying weapons to a belligerent in a conflict makes a country a belligerent. "Support" is a different category altogether. Am WP:BOLD removing flags from infobox including with citations showing weapons supplies. If you want to add "support" to the infobox, then it needs a separate section, not a sub-heading under "Belligerents"; but note that section would not be in keeping with Misplaced Pages norms. -Chumchum7 (talk) 06:14, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

In Misplaced Pages conflict infoboxes we regularly include "support" countries as a sub-heading under "Belligerents". Just a few ongoing examples are the Syrian and Libyan civil wars. Countries only providing weapons support and not being directly involved have also been listed in the infoboxes of many past conflicts. EkoGraf (talk) 01:38, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
But U.S. Secretary confirmed weapon supplies exactly for this conflict. It is support of Ukraine in conflict. Source: https://www.state.gov/secretary-michael-r-pompeo-with-michal-higdon-of-wcsc-tv/ "U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo: We gave them real weapons, where they could fight against the Russians" --Foption (talk) 07:13, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
The Russian and American roles are not equivalent, and any attempt to portray them as such is a violation of WP:NPOV and non-representative of RS. RGloucester 12:11, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
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