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Please Help me

Hello WhatamIdoing, I want to continue to administrate the Haitian wikipedia. I created a section to vote for me in the "Kafe". Could you help me by encouraging contributors to vote quickly?--Gilles2014 (talk) 18:03, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Gilles2014. I noticed that your admin status had expired just a few days ago. I've pinged the recent active editors, and of course you still have my support. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:17, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Gilles2014, it's been 15 days. Have you contacted the Stewards yet, or would you like me to? WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:21, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

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Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks!

Hello,

Google Code-In, Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at the English Misplaced Pages.

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Brilliant Idea Barnstar

		What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
		For adding a very useful sidebar at WP:RMT, hope this will help to reduce the unnecessary requests there. DBigXrayᗙ 12:38, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the barnstar, DBigXray. Here's hoping that it works! WhatamIdoing (talk) 07:11, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

User:Colin

I don't NEED to do anything. But YOU need to mind your own damned business. --Calton | Talk 01:54, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

User:Calton, your response is rude and needlessly aggressive. Please do not post profanity on my user talk page. I have mentioned your error and your response in the ANI discussion. WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:03, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

"brilliantly summarized"

Hah, thanks for that :-)

It was interesting what you wrote about the different historical phases of WPMED. As a relative newbie (7 years?) I don't really "get" the historical context for some of the current drama, which is saddening to see ... Alexbrn (talk) 06:31, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Your brilliant insight deserved wider recognition, and I thought that it might help people at ANI see that the fundamental dispute is about different conceptions of what Misplaced Pages should be.

WPMED has changed over time. We've lost some good editors, and we've gained some new ones. I miss the folks we've lost, but it's still my favorite group of people online. I think that will always be the case. :-D WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:09, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Second Source Barrett Watten

Hi WhatamIdoing,

Writing to follow up on the sourcing requirements for biography of living persons re: the Barrett Watten page. Namely, would a second source need to be from a separate publication, or would a follow-up article in the Chronicle of Higher Ed be sufficient as corroboration? Thank you for taking the time! --Justanotherpoet (talk) 19:09, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Justanotherpoet. The short answer is "yes". The accurate answer is "it depends".

If, say, a second CHR article said "Oops, sorry about that", then the correct answer might be to never mention it. Misplaced Pages's BLP rules would normally treat that like the police accidentally arresting an innocent person: it might have been personally traumatizing for all concerned, but it's not important to know about this temporary incident to understand the person's overall life and work (unless the person makes it important later, e.g., by dedicating the rest of their career to solving that problem).

If a second CHR article said very little, then that wouldn't change matters at all.

But if a second CHR article was relatively long and provided more (i.e., different) information, then that would normally make editors want to reassess the situation.

That said, even a short article (or a few paragraphs from a longer article) in a different publication would be more valuable in terms of showing that these allegations should be included. 200 words in CHR would probably get no change in the article. 200 words in The Detroit Free Press would be grounds for re-evaluation.

It's also possible that (based entirely on what direction subsequent sources take), editors would decide that the problem is less about the individual, and more about the organization. In that case, it's possible that they'd decide that this information (with or without anyone's names) really belongs in the article about Wayne State University.

I see that you have also asked a similar question of User:StarryGrandma. It's great to ask for help. We know that this is an endlessly confusing and overly complicated place. But please consider asking questions on the talk page or on a central noticeboard, such as Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. It's easier for everyone to see the questions then, and if the advice you get from the first person isn't complete or quite correct, then someone else might jump in to help clarify matters. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:42, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick followup; your explanation makes perfect sense, and I'll let the process work itself out beyond helping to identify the new sources. My first thought was to edit the article's Talk Page, but I believe the protections have been extended beyond to that space as well. Is it alright if I communicate directly with you or User:StarryGrandma? --Justanotherpoet (talk) 20:55, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

It looks like you're stuck for a few more days. (You can avoid this problem by making sure that your web browser saves your username and password. You normally won't be logged out for about a year, but you will need to login again every time you clear your cookies. A "slightly used" account lets you do a lot more things than a brand-new one.)

Yes, it's okay to post here until you're able to post there. BTW, if you link to someone's username, just like you did for StarryGrandma in that comment, that person will get notified. This means you can post on one of the pages and ping the other editor, and you won't have to post anything twice. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:59, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello WhatamIdoing,

Writing to you to follow up on my previous questions, and thank you for opening your talk page for this matter. It seems a follow-up article has been published in The Chronicle of Higher Education (https://www.chronicle.com/article/This-Professor-Was-Accused-of/247705?cid=wcontentlist_hp_latest). I hope this is helpful, and I'll "take my comment off the air." --Justanotherpoet (talk) 02:48, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Pricing examples

It would very much help if you were able to give examples, on talk-medmos, of the kind of drug prices (or cost knowledge) you might light to see in articles. Or indeed, the sort of thing you don't think should appear. Along with sources and an explanation of how any figures arise, limitations, etc. You mentioned the existing examples weren't exactly Misplaced Pages at its finest. But a sole editor, with an openly stated agenda, isn't Misplaced Pages at its finest either. I am concerned, just like with the article-videos, that perhaps Misplaced Pages is no longer a collaborative editing project. In previous times, if faults were found with article text, or proposed article text, we'd see a bunch of editors offering suggested variants and ideally all working towards a consensus version. Instead, well, we don't see any serious attempt to address the problems raised. There's zero specific input from other editors in support of or critical of text/source. Instead those wanting prices are focused entirely on the "drug pricing is important" soundbite. I can't believe wiki now lacks editors who are skilled in WP:V and WP:NOR policy review or are brilliant at identifying what our sources say and therefore what we can say. Are there any other editors you think could be pinged to help out here, other than your good self? -- Colin° 14:00, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

From a bystander, even us video gamers have guidelines against pricing/costs at WP:VGSCOPE#8. (See also the fourth bullet at WP:VG/MOS#Exceptions.) --Izno (talk) 14:04, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, Colin. I'm sorry to say that I'm not likely to be able to devote the time this really needs until at least Thursday. I'll try to drop in later just to have a quick look, but this needs hours and hours of attention.

(By "existing" examples, I mean the content already in the articles.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:48, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Merry XMAS!

--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:24, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

		Season's Greetings
		Wishing you a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Mystical Nativity (Filippo Lippi) is my Wiki-Christmas card to all for this year. Johnbod (talk) 16:39, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:External links/Noticeboard reply July 2019

Thank you for this reply - I have been mostly off-Wiki and this slipped by me until now. I have amended the article Dan Kneen with the archived website link as suggested in infobox, leaving the modern version with a different description under the Ext Links heading. Compliments of the Season to you.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 21:41, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for following up on that when you got back, Rocknrollmancer. And thanks for bringing an interesting question to that noticeboard. :-D WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:42, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

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