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References

Remember that when adding content about health, please only use high-quality reliable sources as references. We typically use review articles, major textbooks and position statements of national or international organizations (There are several kinds of sources that discuss health: here is how the community classifies them and uses them). WP:MEDHOW walks you through editing step by step. A list of resources to help edit health content can be found here. The edit box has a built-in citation tool to easily format references based on the PMID or ISBN. We also provide style advice about the structure and content of medicine-related encyclopedia articles. The welcome page is another good place to learn about editing the encyclopedia. If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:33, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Please stop removing the Cochrane review without consensus. The other review can also be added. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:55, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Welcome

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. We have compiled some guidance for new healthcare editors:

1. Use high-quality sources for medical content (see WP:MEDRS). High-quality sources include review articles (which are not the same as peer-reviewed), position statements from nationally and internationally recognized bodies (like CDC, WHO, FDA), and major medical textbooks. Lower-quality sources are typically removed.
2. Reference tags generally go after punctuation, not before; there is no preceding space.
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6. Include page numbers when referencing a book or long journal article.
7. Format references consistently within an article and be sure to cite the PMID for journal articles and ISBN for books; see WP:MEDHOW.
8. Never copy and paste from sources; we run detection software on new edits.
9. The ordering of sections typically follows the instructions at WP:MEDMOS.
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References

Remember that when adding content about health, please only use high-quality reliable sources as references. We typically use review articles, major textbooks and position statements of national or international organizations (There are several kinds of sources that discuss health: here is how the community classifies them and uses them). WP:MEDHOW walks you through editing step by step. A list of resources to help edit health content can be found here. The edit box has a built-in citation tool to easily format references based on the PMID or ISBN. We also provide style advice about the structure and content of medicine-related encyclopedia articles. The welcome page is another good place to learn about editing the encyclopedia. If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:34, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Consensus

You will need to get consensus before replacing "side effect" with "adverse effect". Both are fine per MEDMOS. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:04, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

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Copying public domain material requires attribution

In the future, please add attribution when copying from public domain sources: simply add the template {{PD-notice}} after your citation. I have done so for Dietary Guidelines for Americans. Please do this in the future so that our readers will be aware that you copied or adapted the prose rather than wrote it yourself. Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:37, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Ref

Which ref supports this. Best

For pyogenic spondylodiscitis due to staphylococcus aureus: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22655482

For bacteremia due to staphylococcus aureus: Russell, Clark D., Aaron Lawson McLean, Christopher Saunders, and Ian F. Laurenson. "Adjunctive rifampicin may improve outcomes in Staphylococcus aureus bacteraemia: a systematic review." Journal of medical microbiology 63, no. 6 (2014): 841-848. Note, however, that the ARREST trial calls this in to question Here is link to ARREST article and accompanying editorial: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S014067361732456X https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673617332944

Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 13:36, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Formatting of references

You have been around a long time yet continue not to format references similar to the rest of the articles you edit.

Can you please follow WP:MEDHOW. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 15:10, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Is this you?

If this is you then you should declare it as a COI. Thanks. Guy (Help!) 10:32, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

And this JFW | T@lk 08:48, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

I disclose all my publications here: http://www.medicine.northwestern.edu/faculty/profile.html?xid=15577

My funding has been through the NIH, NSF, American Cancer Society, American Heart Association, and some smaller foundations, including the Post-Finasteride Syndrome Foundation. This is disclosed in my published articles, as above.

I do not publish on wikipedia using any other name, and I have never hidden (and have acknowledged) that I am an academic physician-scientist.

I have no other COI of which I am aware.

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Request

I wondered if you might be willing to review and revise Minimal clinically important difference, improving the sourcing per MEDRS and the style per MEDMOS and MOS generally, and per the mission generally.

The creator and main contributor appears to be a real world expert, who more or less generated a literature review here in WP, with lots of synthesis and writing their own thoughts with citations stuck behind them. Not summarizing sources. That's what is there.

The key thing missing, is description of the extent to which this concept has been and is actually used -- or not used -- in regulatory approvals, generating clinical guidelines and literature reviews, reporting clinical trials, and the like. The reader is left not knowing if this is something some people advocate for, is central to all assessment of interventions, or somewhere in the middle. And no sense of whether the use or non-use has changed over time.

This topic seems very much in your alley, and could use Wikipedian expert improvement... Jytdog (talk) 15:17, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Sure, I'll take a look. Thanks for the pointer.Sbelknap (talk) 15:23, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for being willing! Jytdog (talk) 15:26, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

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January 2019

Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Misplaced Pages about living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to Jim Edgar. Stop trying to cram this into the lead. It was a BLP violation when you restored it the first time, and couching it in terms of the "Edgar Ramp" instead of directly pointing the finger at Edgar is undue. If many people blame him then provide reliable sources that prove that. We discuss the ramp in the article and the fact that it was named for him because he was Governor at the time. That does not warrant putting it in the lead. The article is about the person, not the ramp, and your edit seemed to be implying that he was to blame. Meters (talk) 23:03, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

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Cite templates

Can you please format this using "cite book"

All you need is the ISBN plus page number. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:32, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Copyright problem

Here text was copied from here.

This material was produced by "Novartis Pharmaceuticals Corporation" who own the copyright on it. It is not produced by staff of the US federal government. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:31, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

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Page numbers

We need these for books so others can verify the text in question.

Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:37, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Prions

Hi, I know you are skeptical of the Prion theory, so am I. I found this article and thought you would be interested: there is a growing paradigm that the prion alone, even "co-factor prions" cannot explaine TSEs, especially the different strains. It is now thought by a growing number of scientists that a virus or bacterium encodes the different strains. https://www.dentistrytoday.com/news/todays-dental-news/item/3013-protect-your-patients-and-practice-from-prions-viruses-and-systemic-diseaseSpidersMilk, Drink Spider Milk, it tastes good. (talk) 02:53, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Seriously

1) You know to use high quality secondary sources

2) You have been around long enough to know how to format your own sources.

Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:45, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Capital letters

Only the first word of a heading should generally have a capital letter. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:48, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

SPLC Reliability

In your reversion of my reversion of your edit to David Horowitz, you claimed that "The SPLC is now considered an unreliable source." I must have missed this memo. Can you point me to where this decision was made?--Masque (talk) 12:51, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Personal Attack

It's unclear who you were targeting with this edit summary but it is an unacceptable personal attack - you should withdraw and apologise -----Snowded 07:48, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

A reasonable person might consider a "personal attack" to be "personal" (directed at a particular person) and an "attack" (doing violence to that person). There was nothing "personal" and there was no attack, so…? Stay well. Sbelknap (talk) 13:01, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Any reasonable person would see you as making a general accusation against editors who have reverted you. You are heading for an ANI report if you do it again and you should apologise and/or make it clear that the accusation did not apply to the two editors involved. Unless of course you can justify it with specific evidence. Checking your history your attention hass alresdy been drawn to WP:ASPERSIONS in the context of your topic ban. -----Snowded 16:08, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Last Warning

Ok you have started up with the innuendo again; implying that your idiosyncratic edits are a result of some long term plan to avoid recognizing Heiddegger's Nazi past. You have refused to comply with a request to evidence that accusation or delete it. Your whole attitude on the talk page is to tell other editors they are wrong and not engage with them. Checking your history, your previous topic ban was based on concerns about obsessive editing coupled innuendo and personal attacks so you have history here. If it doesn't stop now then I am going to raise the question at ANI with a reference to the previous ban. You are raising a serious question as to whether or not you can engage with other editors in accordance with Misplaced Pages conventions on any controversial issue which raises a question or two about your continued participation in the project. I thought we had an agreement that you would raise any issues about the main body of the article and we would then look again at the lede. Instead, you are plunging straight into the attempt to attach a qualification about the Nazi qualification to any statement. I'd seriously suggest you find a mentor if you can't see the issue here. -----Snowded 07:12, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Your threats to refer me to an ANI seem out-of-bounds, as per WP:PA. You make many assertions, none of which are accurate. Please stay off my talk page. Sbelknap (talk) 16:35, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

OK I'll confine myself to formal notices if they become necessary -----Snowded 16:38, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

May 2019

Your recent editing history at Martin Heidegger shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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I think you should adopt the attitude of seeking consensus on the talk page first given the number of reverts you are getting. If not then accept a 1RR restriction at least. Slow edit wars are still edit wars in WIkipedia -----Snowded 09:05, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Canvassing

You've just broken a basic Misplaced Pages rule namely canvassing selected editors -----Snowded 16:51, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

According to WP:CANVAS "In general, it is perfectly acceptable to notify other editors of ongoing discussions, provided that it be done with the intent to improve the quality of the discussion by broadening participation to more fully achieve consensus." This is precisely what was done. Again, please stay off my talk page. Sbelknap (talk) 16:56, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

That was a policy notice Sbelknap, I don't want you saying you were not warned. If you had contacted everyone who edited the page or put a notice on a discussion forum that would have been OK. But you selected who you invited. Please read and attend to the policies cited. But it's your call, I'll stay away unless next time it needs to be an ANI reference -----Snowded 17:02, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

I have reviewed the canvassing policy. It seems crystal clear to me that my actions are entirely consistent with that policy. Frankly, I feel that you are harassing me. Please stop. Sbelknap (talk) 17:10, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

OK to be very very clear, You have edit warred, you have persisted in trying to get material inserted with all other editors in disagreement you have indulged in NPOV taging when you can't get support on the talk page. You have also canvassed. If this carries on I am going to put together a summary of this and request a topic ban at ANI. I really don't want to do that but you need to accept the position of other editors on the talk page. -----Snowded 16:59, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

I note that you make many assertions about violations of wikipedia policy that are false. I have not edit warred, canvassed, or drive-by tagged by any reasonable definition of these term. I have made many high-quality edits to wikipedia, including a few on the Martin Heidegger page. I respectfully ask again that you keep off my page. Sbelknap (talk) 17:07, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

OK I'll confine my self to formal notices as required by Misplaced Pages -----Snowded 17:37, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

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Pelareorep

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References

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warning

Aside from the ongoing personal attacks, you are now making changes previously rejected on the talk page and/or which you know are controversial. This type of behavior has got you into trouble before. Please learn to work with other editors or you heading for a topic ban -----Snowded 16:02, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

I have made no personal attacks. My edits are good faith attempts to improve the article. I respectfully suggest that instead of making threats, you engage in the discussion on the talk page, where I have opened a subsection on the matter of improving the Martin Heidegger lede. I am engaged with other editors in the discussion on that talk page. Some editors agree with me and disagree with you. Sbelknap (talk) 16:09, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

You did and have continued to so. I don't think any other neutral editor would take them any other way. I've warned you, if you want to go to ANI just carry on -----Snowded 16:26, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

My edits and comments are focused entirely on improving the content of wikipedia. Your comment here is threatening. Please stay off my talk page. Sbelknap (talk) 16:33, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Edit-warring against consensus

You may not impose changes to Lou Dobbs absent consensus that these changes are appropriate; there has been extensive discussion of the "Deep State" issue and multiple editors have explained to you why the current material is reliably-sourced and relevant. Your choices are either to open an RFC to gain broader consensus, or to WP:DROPTHESTICK and move on. You may not simply ram through your changes no matter how deeply you believe in something. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 07:37, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

I've provided explanation for my edits on the talk page. When it is clear that there is a POV problem in a wikipedia article, particularly a BLP, then we are obligated to fix these errors, with appropriate explanation on the talk page. That's what I did. wikipedia is not a place for you to provide your original research. Please rely on high-quality secondary sources, when these are available.Sbelknap (talk) 07:42, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

It doesn't matter that you've "provided explanation" - you don't have consensus to make these changes to reliably-sourced material, and multiple editors have explained to you why your proposed changes are unacceptable. You can't simply force through changes to reliably-sourced content unilaterally - that's not how Misplaced Pages works. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 07:46, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Hey, guys, instead of edit warring, why not participate in the RfC so we can figure out some alternatives? I think that would be much more helpful and less likely to put editors on thin ice. Jdcomix (talk) 17:27, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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