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::Indeed, who knows what naughtiness and ] problems might occur if a direct link was allowed.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 08:42, 12 January 2020 (UTC) ::Indeed, who knows what naughtiness and ] problems might occur if a direct link was allowed.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 08:42, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

== January 2020 outage ==

Re : The site is down at the moment. is a screenshot of the error message. This indicates that the problem is with ED's server rather than Cloudflare's hosting. It's too early to say how long this problem will last, or to pronounce the last rites. The site was offline for around six weeks in August-October 2019 before returning.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 18:55, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

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Inclusion of this page in the alt-right categories

Just like The Daily Stormer (its news counterpart), ED is riddled with tons of neofascism, holocaust denialism, antisemitism, racism, and many more that they share in common. Plus, TDS even sponsored ED. Right now, the article only talks about it being a meme or satire page, but they are one of those platforms that disguise honest hatred as "parody", and, it is one of the alt-right platforms besides TDS that motivated William Atchinson's school shooting. I could not cite anything besides the Twitter post, because ED is on the spam blacklist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SagaGX (talk • contribs)

While after long-term and considered research I believe some of ED's attacks on Misplaced Pages to be based on wrong-think, and personal vendetta that may not be correct. It seems wrong to characterise parody as if it were genuinely hate speech. This only so far as my research has got at the moment, so am open to criticism. Mrspaceowl (talk) 22:26, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

ED doesn't target specific groups but rather tries to offend as many people as possible in general. There's no discrimination involved and therefore I don't think it's fair to equate them to people who are actually prejudiced. 24.140.6.186 (talk) 20:44, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. "Encyclopedia Dramatica". Twitter. Retrieved 31 July 2018.

August 2019 outage

The site has been down for several days, but it is hard to say why without reliable sourcing. Here is a screenshot of the current state of play on the site. This suggests looking at the official Twitter account, and this tweeted on 24 August "As you might have noticed. We're down again. Hold on until we sort our shit with our frontend providers..." This looks like some hosting problem again, but it may be too early to say that the site is gone forever.--♦IanMacM♦ 05:27, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Given what happened with 8Chan earlier this month this can’t be a coincidence. 96.244.93.97 (talk) 11:44, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
We know from reliable news coverage that Cloudflare pulled the plug on 8chan. It may be that a similar plug has been pulled on ED, but there is no confirmation of this. The reason why I reverted this edit is because the official ED Twitter account does not explain why the site is offline, it just says that the site is offline.--♦IanMacM♦ 12:02, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

And back up again

Re this edit: it is correct that the site is back up again with the .se domain. However, this is not yet mentioned on the official Twitter feed. There is some info here which may explain what the problem was.--♦IanMacM♦ 15:00, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Call it what it is?

The lede currently states:

Encyclopedia Dramatica (often abbreviated ED and æ) is a parody-themed wiki website launched on December 10, 2004, that uses MediaWiki software to lampoon encyclopedia topics and current events, especially those related or relevant to contemporary Internet culture.

No it's not, it's an alt-right, neofascist, incel driven, misogynistic hate farm. As per WP:SPADE why is not labelled as such?

What on earth does "parody-themed" even mean? Where is the parody in both justifying and then mocking the Holocaust?

This site is a platform for right-wing polemic and hate speech.

Ten years ago, its focus might have been "parody-themed", however, open any article on this site today and it's patently obvious the authors of these pages are neo Nazis.

Is the logic of this page to take the POV that any website which possibly hosts a few "funny" pages gets a pass from being labelled "alt-right" because, with a few neutral pages, it can be argued there are "very fine people on both sides" writing this site?

Almost all content on this site is pro-authoritarian, anti-free speech (ironic considering it needs free speech to spout hate), anti-intellectual, anti-abortion, and pro climate change denial.

This is not WP:OPINION this is WP:SPADE. The POV on this page is like saying Hitler was an artist and not a Nazi because he once painted pictures. This website might have been "parody-themed" once but it is certainly not now, and continuing to claim that it is, just smacks of someone pushing their agenda as it's an unjustifiable WP:POV. 81.141.34.49 (talk) 18:49, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

The WP:LEAD already makes clear that the site contains material likely to be found sexist, racist and offensive. This comes from what reliable secondary sources have said about the site.--♦IanMacM♦ 06:35, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

Should I link the website?

Is it okay to link the website in the side bar? New3400 (talk) 23:29, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

The edit will not save if you do this. ED is on the spam blacklist at \bencyclopediadramatica\.+?\b. In plain language, this prevents encyclopediadramatica dot anything from saving.--♦IanMacM♦ 08:28, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
@New3400: The general approach here on en.wikipedia is to whitelist and link to a neutral landing page like an about page. That works for most website, but ED found it necessary to also extend their abuse through their about-page. --Dirk Beetstra 08:40, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Indeed, who knows what naughtiness and WP:LINKLOVE problems might occur if a direct link was allowed.--♦IanMacM♦ 08:42, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

January 2020 outage

Re this edit: The site is down at the moment. Here is a screenshot of the error message. This indicates that the problem is with ED's server rather than Cloudflare's hosting. It's too early to say how long this problem will last, or to pronounce the last rites. The site was offline for around six weeks in August-October 2019 before returning.--♦IanMacM♦ 18:55, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

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