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Merry Christmas!!

Hi Bbb23, thanks for all you do on Misplaced Pages, and for all your help at BLPN. My you have a wonderful Christmas and a Happy New Year. (and if you don't celebrate Christmas please feel free to take that as a Happy Hanukkah, a great Dhanu Sankranti, a blessed Hatsumode, or whatever holiday you want to insert there.) Zaereth (talk) 08:55, 25 December 2019 (UTC

Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Oxford2008

While investigating Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Oxford2008, I found these two reversions by you (Sebastian Doggart and Courting Condi) where you removed edits to AfDs by User:212.157.248.162. I get that they're bogus, but we generally don't revert AfD comments, just mark them as socks or WP:SPA or whatever. You also blocked that IP with the comment, "mail server". Could you give some additional explanation? -- RoySmith (talk) 18:08, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

I frankly don't understand why you repeatedly show such poor judgment, particularly at SPI. Although I appreciate your willingness to contribute, you have been acting far more like a clerk than a patrolling administrator, and you are monopolizing the cases, which prevents bona fide clerk trainees from learning. Why on earth did you edit the archive of an SPI? Why do you ask so many weird questions? If it were just once, it would be different, but it's chronic, although not every report. The IP was editing from a mail server and in the manner of an experienced user. I reverted their edits the way I would do with many blocked IPs. Not a big deal, despite your apparent view that it is.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:18, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

I am sorry you find my involvement to be monopolizing, or my questions weird. I ask questions because I'm trying to understand how things work. As far as I can tell, I'm just doing what's appropriate based on my reading of WP:SPI/AI. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:26, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

@RoySmith: I just came across this thread after adding the section below. To be honest, I'm shocked to learn that you're an admin and want to echo/amplify BBB's concerns about your exceptionally bad judgment. Frankly seeing this edit and then you opening Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Ernest_Barttelot_Huffington-Smyth wasting tons of time is just plain stupid. WTF? You knew the article was a hoax and you should have WP:CSD#A11-ed immediately Instead we wasted time on it at AFD and propagated phony info. Toddst1 (talk) 06:10, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Weird COI editing / socking

Hey BBB, you came across Dede Wilsey a few weeks ago. Summersun77 (talk · contribs) has been slow-mo edit-warring on what appears to be an obvious WP:COI situation - having only edited (spin-doctored) articles about Dede and her son. It now looks like s/he has invoked a sock to continue the edit war, Anonymous0U812 (talk · contribs). Can you keep an eye on this? Toddst1 (talk) 05:59, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Edit-war - Khruner

Dear Bbb23,

Recently I filed a report on the administrator's noticeboard in regard to an edit-war that occurred less than a month ('2 weeks and a couple of days') ago. I looked into it and noticed A LOT had occurred between the involved parties.

One of the party's behavior had not yet been reviewed because no report was filed yet while the other party got a permanent ban as far I can tell looking at the available information. Considering the severity of the edit-war I thought it would be good to take measures to avoid having such an incident occur again.

It appears you have not reviewed the case for the reason of it being 'stale'. Please explain this for me if you can. Caribbeandelight (talk) 15:09, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

What other accounts have you had on Misplaced Pages?--Bbb23 (talk) 15:10, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

That's what I'm wondering. A new editor whose first venture outside userspace is to report someone for editwarring with an editor blocked for using multiple accounts? Doug Weller talk 15:14, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for sharing your concern about my behavior. If you believe my behavior in in violation of community guidelines then please file a report in the appropiate place. As explained before I happened to stumble into this edit war on my favorite page about my ancestor's culture. I see what the other party did to contribute to the page and I saw how Khruner responded. It piqued my interest and as you can see resulted in my report. Could you now also answer my question? Caribbeandelight (talk) 15:26, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

We don't need to "file a report" on your behavior, but you have not answered my question about previous accounts.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:47, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Hypocritepedia

Rangeblock just ended, and right off they're back to this, so the rangeblock on 69.178.192.0/22 needs to be re-applied. Nate • (chatter) 00:01, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

User Biografer

Hello. Given the heartfelt appeal by the user near the bottom of their sockpuppet investigation page, and the productivity, growth, and interest in the project they have shown, can this indef for sockpuppeting be overturned or maybe give them a week slap-on-the-puppet ban but let them return? Seems a possible case for leniency, and they have kind-of thrown themselves on the mercy of the court, which shows commitment to the project. Maybe let's give a sucker an even break on this one. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:22, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

There is no way Mishae is going to be unblocked by anyone for a long time.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:28, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Question

Who is the master for SCUTI85? I appear to be missing it but I suspect they've returned and will need to file an SPI. Praxidicae (talk) 16:25, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

That's not clear. Complicated history. My preference would be for you to file an SPI naming SCUTI85 as the master. That will give me an opportunity to straighten this out. Please let me know when you've filed it. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:31, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Done. Indeed it does seem complicated as I found a few other overlapping cases. They're definitely a sock though. Praxidicae (talk) 16:48, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

What overlapping cases do you mean?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:51, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Yid army

I’m a Jew mate big Tottenham fan a club with a primary Jewish fanbase I can use the word so don’t you go saying it’s a derogatory term when I regularly use it and it’s chanted by thousands of other lads down the lane RossButsy (talk) 18:07, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

I don't care. Don't use the word on Misplaced Pages. If I see you do it again, I'll block you.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:13, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Yes sir RossButsy (talk) 18:21, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

WP:EMPTYCAT

Hi Bbb23,

I always appreciate your discussion contributions, edits, and closes, but I'm curious why you would unilaterally delete my WP:EMPTYCAT shortcut when it's a shortcut that is used, chiefly by me and potentially by others as well, and also since it's consistent with our naming conventions for shortcuts like WP:TRIVIALCAT and WP:SMALLCAT?

I've made minor, non-controversial bold edits to other Misplaced Pages project information pages as well, and I've noticed that Levivich has as well. So I don't see why we can't have two shortcuts to a project information section when we do frequently?

Cheers,
--Doug Mehus T·C 19:03, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

You shouldn't have changed the policy. Once I reverted you, there was no reason for the shortcut.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:04, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Bbb23, But my understanding is that bold edits can occur to any page, so there's nothing restricting me from making that edit. I'm just wondering why you reverted me; other editors and admins make small changes to policies without establishing consensus all the time. Adding a shortcut certainly seems minor to me, particularly when it's consistent with our naming conventions elsewhere and WP:C1 was still the primary shortcut (that is, the first one listed). Now, for major changes to policy, while one can boldly make the change, they are most likely, and understandably, to be reverted. Doug Mehus T·C 19:07, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't have much respect for your judgment in these matters. I agree with JzG that you spend far too much time in project space. Although I have not examined all your edits, the ones I've seen, particularly to ANI, have been unhelpful and borderline disruptive. If you continue in this fashion, you may find yourself sanctioned in some manner. I'd probe your edits more deeply, but, frankly, I'd rather do other things.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:11, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Pending sockpuppet investigation

Hi- I filed a sockpuppet investigation that is still pending. I saw a checkuser investigated and its waiting for administration and close. How long do those typically take until these investigations and results get assessed by an admin and closed out with appropriate action as necessary? Thank you. 108.21.182.146 (talk) 17:23, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Generally a clerk will make the necessary determinations. There is no average length of time for that to happen.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:06, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply and the clarification. 108.21.182.146 (talk) 18:09, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

undelete Lincoln School

my page was deleted before i could attach the text to the page. Would u undelete the page and insert the following txt so it won't be deleted again. I will attach the rest of the text. "Lincoln Elementary School stood at 150 W. St Charles Road in Lombard." — Preceding unsigned comment added by The 0utsider1 (talk • contribs) 19:37, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

No.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:52, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Niccolò Bonacchi

Hello, the article you deleted is about a swimmer who won a silver medal at the European Championships and a gold medal at the Mediterranean Games. Maybe you were hurrying up and didn't notice. -- SERGIO aka the Black Cat 21:22, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Notice what? All the article said was that he was a swimmer. Last time I checked, that is not a credible claim of significance. I swim, too!--Bbb23 (talk) 21:25, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

The info is rolled up in the infobox. Espresso Addict (talk) 16:46, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

@Espresso Addict: Ah, you're right, I didn't click on "show". Do you think I should restore it? I wouldn't mind if I knew someone was going to actually work on it because, as is, it sure as hell ain't much. Perhaps restore and move it to draft space?--Bbb23 (talk) 19:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, Bbb23. Those rolled-up infoboxes are a pain. I'd agree restoring and draftifying is a good way to go; I don't know how reliable Swimrankings.net is as a sole source for a BLP. Perhaps someone at WP:Swimming might be able to assist? Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 19:42, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

I know nothing about the subject. I did look at the source after Blackcat raised the issue here, but I confess I had trouble figuring out what the guy did that was noteworthy (it was a long list). Honestly, I don't want to spend a lot of time on this. I'd be happy to draftify it but only if someone is going to take charge of it, at least to bring it up to a mainspace stub. Blackcat, do you have any interest? Unlike me, you edit sports articles.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:50, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

My interest is mainly for rugby union to be sincere. I contacted you on behalf of a fellow Italian Wikipedian who's not as accustomed as me to the English language. He couldn't understand why has been deleted an article about a swimmer who is twice bronze medalist (both at the World and the European championships) and also medalist at 2 editions of the Mediterranean Games. Regards, -- SERGIO aka the Black Cat 22:11, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Are you talking about Dispe, the creator of the article? Why didn't he come here? If I draftified the article, would he work on it? Notable or not, it wasn't ready for mainspace, not even as a stub.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:15, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

92.19.29.51

Their two edits don't seem to match any of the familiar LTA's? I mean, it doesn't look like Vote X or the Bonadea nuisance or someone similar. Furthermore, it was their edit which actually started this whole report. Can you indicate which LTA this is supposed to be? Thanks! Fram (talk) 14:48, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Sorry but I ran a check, so I can't.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:27, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

User:Eldapeeze

Hi Bbb23, thanks for helping out with User:Eldapeeze. Did you find the situation with them because of my report at WP:AN3? If so, do I need to do anything to close that now that you've indef-blocked them? – PeeJay 16:50, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

An administrator will close the report.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:52, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/Cannabis_in_North_Macedonia

You reverted an edit I added. Just wondering why this was? I did not understand the comment you added to the change. Do you not think extra information on how things have developed is useful for the page. TheChallengeofObjectivity (talk) 18:10, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

TheChallengeofObjectivity, Essentially, Bbb23 has reason to believe you copied from somewhere else, then just switched words around a bit to make it look unique-ish. You took what someone else wrote, and did the minimal amount of work to make it look like you wrote it. MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 19:03, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.). Thanks for the insight. I've only just started this editing "thing", so his comment was a little cryptic for me. I was trying to be as closely referenced/uncontentious as possible. Will have another go at it. Should I undo his rollback and edit or just add in a new version?TheChallengeofObjectivity (talk) 11:50, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

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Bothiman? → Slakenger Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:45, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

 Confirmed + Barneybnr (talk · contribs · count) and Lisbonnee (talk · contribs · count).--Bbb23 (talk) 21:26, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Blocked on Accounts but not IP

Hi bbb23, my past accounts were blocked around seven months ago, but my IP block expired. If I edit with this IP am I violating the rules? I checked my edit history and I saw that my brother made three edits to video games articles that he likes, and I want to make sure that he wont get me blocked. 184.184.80.114 (talk) 23:16, 17 January 2020 (UTC)