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Kelly Oubre

LARRY I WANT Lady I want to talk to you can you Prete put can you please put Kelly Oubre’s personal life please and thank you

Hi - I moved your comment to the bottom of the talk page, which is where new comments usually go on WP talk pages. From your message, I can't tell exactly what you're asking. Could you comment here and tell me more? Larry Hockett (Talk) 02:02, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

About Datone Jones

Hi Larry Hockett, the reason for my revisions in the Datone Jones article was because I witnessed a couple sentences in the article that may be a copyright violation of his celebvogue page. The article is a WP:GAN and criteria #2 says that there shouldn’t be original research (criteria 2d says there should be no copyright infringements). UCLAgirl623 01:53, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

No problem. I think I have been mostly just cleaning up grammar and making pretty minor WP:MOS-related edits, but let me know if anything doesn't make sense to you. On the one where I reverted the NFL draft sentence, the new sentence was not grammatical. If that original sentence was a copyright issue, let's talk about how to rewrite it. Larry Hockett (Talk) 02:59, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

I applaud you for fixing grammar issues and doing WP:MOS-related edits. That’s a great thing to do. The sentence you reverted was in the College recruiting section of both the Misplaced Pages article and celebvogue.com page. The original sentence was a copyright violation of celebvogue.com. As for rewriting the sentence, I just modified the sentence to Jones was a high recruit coming out of high school and was considered a four-star prospect by Rivals.com and Scout.com. I also saw this page, which detects evidence of copyright violations in articles (in this case: Datone Jones). —UCLAgirl623 03:19, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

It looks like the CelebVogue article (published in December 2019) copied us, not the other way around. Check out this version of the WP article from November 2019, which would have been just before the publication date of the CelebVogue article on 12/2. It looks like the CelebVogue author took our entry, added one heading to the TOC, and then just changed up a few words here and there. The copyright violation was committed by that site, not by WP. Some websites are set up to function as "Misplaced Pages mirrors". Sometimes you'll see a statement on those websites indicating that the source was Misplaced Pages. In this case, it looks like the source was definitely Misplaced Pages, but I don't see any statement crediting WP. Larry Hockett (Talk) 04:04, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

I didn’t know that until now. Thank you for the reminder! —UCLAgirl623 04:16, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

No problem. Just one heads-up: I noticed that you are thanking me for each edit I make (or for most edits). I know that people on social media frequently click "Like" on a whole row of posts, but to me, only an occasional "thank" is fine on Misplaced Pages. When an editor receives a bunch of thanks while editing from a mobile device or on a slow web connection, it just makes it harder to clear the notifications. I appreciate your acknowledgement though. Larry Hockett (Talk) 04:21, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Kaitlin Bennett

Sorry about that. I have a problem with slow screen updates sometimes causing a disconnect between what I see on my screen and what the interface thinks should be there. Meters (talk) 05:02, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

No worries. I suspected it was something like that. My fat fingers betray me with a rollback on my mobile device about once a week. Larry Hockett (Talk) 05:14, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Mr. Hockett

I am slowly tired of people who vandalized my biography page on Misplaced Pages, who hide behind anonymous nicks, who blocked the biography and wrote calomnia in its talk space, inventing "self-promotion", while the biography they had already proved the contrary: I am sick and tired of your folk playing powerfull instead of doing your job properly. Maybe you have no boss, but you took a responsibilty, and that cannot be to boycott pages on Wiki. So please get honnest, and invite those folks to do their job rather than hiding behind empty phrases. They put pannels that lead to the "self-promotion" lie, but do nothing to solve the issue. Who is in charge here? Can you be real, rather than playing psy? Thank you for being real! — Preceding unsigned comment added by PredaMi (talk • contribs) 23:19, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

You and I, PredaMi, have the same "job" as volunteer editors of the encyclopedia: to assist in building an encyclopedia with a neutral point of view and with good sourcing. You may be sick of whatever you wish to be sick of, but vandalism, verifiability and self-promotion are well-defined entities on Misplaced Pages rather than lies. If you have questions about them and you can state those questions specifically and calmly, I will help you, but it isn't because I took any sort of responsibility to help you do as you please with the WP article about you. Larry Hockett (Talk) 23:38, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Mr. Larry Hockett, nice that you are a volunteer. It is good that you believe that defining entities, is enough for making people be honnest. It is not. The best definition of "Verify" is useless, when the people in control in Wiki do not do their job to verify, just block This is the issue! I repeat to you the detail a last time. My biography is written by people I do not know, many people, and it converged to pretty much the same in all languages. When they talked about Mihailescu's Theorem, they added two books, essentially dedicated to my work, where this term is used dozens of times. So it is really NOT the verifyability that misses. I even do a google search, and I see in the Wiki entry for Tijedeman's Theorem, so in your very english Misplaced Pages, https://en.wikipedia.org/Tijdeman%27s_theorem. Right now I discovered that Mr. O. Removed at 23:00 the mention to my name in the Misplaced Pages entry to Tijdeman's Theorem, an entry I had mentioned to him 10 minutes ago in order to show him that he was wrong. How vicious can someone like this be?

Mr. Hockett, he cannot remove books, I made a screenshot of a page of the Book of Henri Cohen, where he starts a chapter on my theorem. Here is a link https://drive.google.com/file/d/1z9iMojc9QUKhE3XPUUHBzbkZukNwB5m5/view?usp=sharing

I am so disgusted by this new discovery, that I have nothing left to say. I do hope you or someone else, but soon, see for it that order is brought back and this guy be removed from his privileges. You see, it is not enough to have a defined term, when you have personnel that is incorrect. Good night, hope tomorrow to see a better side of Misplaced Pages.

Sir, you erased my reply in your attempt to add more of your own comments. I can't understand how that helps us to have a logical and productive conversation. I have nothing left to say either. Larry Hockett (Talk) 00:48, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Mr. Hockett, I am sorry for your comment, it was not on purpose. What happened is that we wrote at the same time, and there was a block. I also lost the text that I was writing. I think that the WIki system is simply old and is inadapted for such issues. I lost text too and had to rewrite, but do not put the blame on you. Anyhow, sorry for that.

But now please stop nagging on me, there is a serious issue here and you seem not to accept it. Do you read what I told you? Your pal, Mr. Overzwotan, is caught destroying evidence. As said, I gave him sources to books, he did not accept to verify. I have him a pointer to the theorem of Tijdemann on Misplaced Pages, and he erased personally the reference to my theorem from Misplaced Pages. Here you have his mark, yesterday at 11: 05, after I had explained him that he can find evidence there (information which he removed from his site), and before he blamed me to you, to erase the trace: curprev 23:05, 19 January 2020‎ Overzwotan talk contribs‎ 4,285 bytes +13‎ undothank.

I am sorry for your troubles Mr. Larry Hockett, I find this way of communication totally clumsy, to get accustomed to precisely when you are victim of an attack. So please make this small effort to relate to the fact, and stop nagging about forms. My biography page has been vandalized, two persons have now proved that they introduced very much on purpose the alegiation of personal promotion, knowing it is false, and removing such evidence when it was presented to them. And nobody reacts. You want me to do what? Is there a coordinator of biography pages here around? Or can you now verify the facts, and act properly, please? You are the only one with a human name, and who halfways answers.

Believe me, this is a totally abstruse communication system, that I do not understand, it takes days and days to get a feed-back, and you never know if someone reads, but when you act, they tell you, you are wrong. I have no time for learning this system, so now that you can read my supply, and see that there is vandalism, please do something, that is all I ask! Since more than a week it feels like a house has been broken in, and the thief is within the police! There is an email of Wiki, which is presented as an address for complaints about biographies. I wrote more than a week ago, nobody replies. But there are trolls like Overzsomething, who have the right to mess around unpunished on Wiki. And you want to tell me I should accept this, and you want to tell me everything is "well defined"?

Sir, I gave you an evidence from a book, so that you do not need to have doubts that OverzX acted otherwise than in bad faith. Please let me know if you need anything more, but please act -- I guess you know more of the system than I do! Thank you. Oh, and maybe you should revert also the intrusion of the Tijedman theorem page -- there is no use in my doing it, he will jump to change it back anyhow. That is why you also need to get his rights blocked. This is it!

Preda MihailescuPredaMi (talk) 07:32, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

You have done the right thing by taking your concern to the article talk page. If I were you, I would not have addressed an editor there with "You troll", but what is done is done. I would follow up there after giving people a few days to respond. Larry Hockett (Talk) 10:47, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Mr. Hockett, thank you for the response. I may agree that the person may not have liked my addressing him as troll. But I am not hypocrite -- the more he insisted in the pretense that he had done nothing wrong, the more of a troll he appeared to me. Let me make it clear: this is a professional"s biography, generated by outstanding professionals, in many languages, it has been around for more than a decade. And here comes someone who has no idea of the profession, and dares destroy it and comment openly "I suspect self-promotion", without any minimal verification. And one year later, a friend of mine brings it to my attention that some incompetents seem to spread gossip about me on my own Misplaced Pages biography -- can you imagine how many people have thought the same, before this friend noticed me? And after this offense, they expect me to have patience with them? Sorry, this is asking too much. Bringing the page in order is not enough. They must apologize on the talk page for the harm made, they must correct the Tijdeman page too, and thing twice, if they have done more miseries to me or someone else. It is incredible that Misplaced Pages tolerates such behavior! You saw for yourself, he removes evidence for Misplaced Pages, believing that he can avoid taking responsibility for the fact that he did not check his claim! Can you accept such behavior, as part of your team? I would not!.

So yes, I may wait two days -- but you know what I wait for. Not only that my page is brought in the correct state in which the German or the French or the Italian ones are. But also the Tijdeman page, and also the apologies for the public offense. A lesson is a lesson! Thank you for being a witness.

Best wishes

PMPredaMi (talk) 17:11, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Don Francis

I was an intern at the meeting when Don Francis pounded his fist. I think it made a lasting memory and it seems history bears it out. It even made its way into a movie, "And The Band Played On". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.180.210.196 (talk) 03:13, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

A first-person account really doesn't belong in an encyclopedia, especially in Misplaced Pages's voice. Further discussion, if necessary, should be held at the article talk page. Larry Hockett (Talk) 03:17, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello

Once the a NFL team is eliminated from the Playoffs, the FA period does start but cannot be signed until March of 2020. I am a NFL insider btw. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.18.30.57 (talk) 19:28, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Interesting. What is the source for that? Larry Hockett (Talk) 19:31, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

MLB All-star game

Wasn’t the AL two games ahead each turn after the two-games/year ended? Which was then “corrected” when two NL venues hosted in 2006-7? TashTish (talk) 21:03, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

I don't have any reason to doubt that, but I'm questioning whether such a distinction belongs in the encyclopedia. Has this discrepancy received significant coverage in reliable sources? That's usually a good measure of whether it belongs on WP. Larry Hockett (Talk) 21:24, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Fair enough. I was just striving for factual accuracy, and as the previous example displayed similarly, a correction was eventually made (albeit almost 50 years later, so I guess I should just shut up now!). TashTish (talk) 05:40, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Babson College

I am a new editor and I understand that I have a lot to learn. To that end, I was wondering if you could explain to me why you deemed my first edit to Babson college's page as "not constructive." Going forward, what do you think are useful questions to ask myself before determining if something might be a constructive addition to a wiki page? Thank you in advance for any pointers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caratacus54AD (talk • contribs) 00:04, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi - thanks for reaching out to clarify. I didn't think the Babson College edit was unconstructive per se (I saw that one and thought that maybe the distinction was a little trivial, but I saw that the firing had been covered by several mainstream news sources). Instead, I was actually reaching out to you about the edit to the sandbox that mentioned liking balls. I can appreciate humor, we do allow a lot of leeway on sandbox editing, and it's an individual call. I think it's just that in my previous experience, when people make edits (even to the sandbox) about certain things - mentions of genitals, name calling, a few other types of edits - those tend to be school-aged kiddos just using WP to waste time. Basically, if the editing gets out of hand in those situations, we give escalating levels of warnings and then temporarily restrict editing privileges. You wouldn't fall into that category with just a single warning about one sandbox edit. Let me know if I can clarify anything. Have a good week! Larry Hockett (Talk) 00:34, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Oh my goodness, I didn't realize the edits in the sandbox were even viewable by other users. This is incredibly embarrassing. Thanks for the help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caratacus54AD (talk • contribs) 02:33, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

No worries. No harm done! Larry Hockett (Talk) 04:34, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Coaching trees

Larry, I noticed your reaction to my edit at Kevin Sumlin. You may want to weight in at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject College football#Tree littering. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 05:13, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

A goat for you!

LARRY HOCKETT / LEPRICAVARK / ALANEY2k

Sir - Please STOP all these far too many ridiculous reverts on almost all entries which are plainly and simply wrong as you quite apparently have no appreciation for better and more proper English usage, better sentence structure, added correct facts, as they are not at all appreciated - I am 73 and have been involved in sports, military and business operations since age 5 onward to now when I initially began attending games, going to military bases, various wars, where was fortunate to begin to meet and know for decades almost all the people written about and places attended - I operate a major historical agency and cover Major and Minor League Baseball, military facts and obituaries on a daily basis, as well - Seems most of you virtually know nothing ' editors ' have no idea whatsoever at all about sports / stadiums / ballparks / facts / figures / military matters / etc. - Therefore, if you keep entering these totally unnecessary and unwarranted insults you will be reported for doing so - You seem to be busy enough with your hundreds of others so do me this small favour and just stick to ones with real problems and leave my few small entries alone, all of which others would say are ' perfect ' - Have you ever even gone to the trouble to see the now over 8,000 better word changes / corrections / additions of missing letters / additions of missing words / etc. which have entered over time with very few reverts ??? - Frankly, if WIKIPEDIA does not want nor appreciate this FREE assistance to your very poorly monitored pages with far too many mistakes of both omission and commission then simply just advise as am busy enough here so can do without these insults. Thank You. COLONEL77

COLONEL77 (talk) 05:59, 8 February 2020 (UTC)