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Inclusion of this page in the alt-right categories

Just like The Daily Stormer (its news counterpart), ED is riddled with tons of neofascism, holocaust denialism, antisemitism, racism, and many more that they share in common. Plus, TDS even sponsored ED. Right now, the article only talks about it being a meme or satire page, but they are one of those platforms that disguise honest hatred as "parody", and, it is one of the alt-right platforms besides TDS that motivated William Atchinson's school shooting. I could not cite anything besides the Twitter post, because ED is on the spam blacklist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SagaGX (talk • contribs)

While after long-term and considered research I believe some of ED's attacks on Misplaced Pages to be based on wrong-think, and personal vendetta that may not be correct. It seems wrong to characterise parody as if it were genuinely hate speech. This only so far as my research has got at the moment, so am open to criticism. Mrspaceowl (talk) 22:26, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

ED doesn't target specific groups but rather tries to offend as many people as possible in general. There's no discrimination involved and therefore I don't think it's fair to equate them to people who are actually prejudiced. 24.140.6.186 (talk) 20:44, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

References

1. "Encyclopedia Dramatica". Twitter. Retrieved 31 July 2018.

Should I link the website?

Is it okay to link the website in the side bar? New3400 (talk) 23:29, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

The edit will not save if you do this. ED is on the spam blacklist at \bencyclopediadramatica\.+?\b. In plain language, this prevents encyclopediadramatica dot anything from saving.--♦IanMacM♦ 08:28, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

@New3400: The general approach here on en.wikipedia is to whitelist and link to a neutral landing page like an about page. That works for most website, but ED found it necessary to also extend their abuse through their about-page. --Dirk Beetstra 08:40, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Indeed, who knows what naughtiness and WP:LINKLOVE problems might occur if a direct link was allowed.--♦IanMacM♦ 08:42, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

January 2020 outage

Re this edit: The site is down at the moment. Here is a screenshot of the error message. This indicates that the problem is with ED's server rather than Cloudflare's hosting. It's too early to say how long this problem will last, or to pronounce the last rites. The site was offline for around six weeks in August-October 2019 before returning.--♦IanMacM♦ 18:55, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

The website's owner is in jail. It might stay down unless someone creates a mirror. 69.154.132.23 (talk) 01:53, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

According to ED's facebook account the sysop is currently in jail facing felony forgery charges and has been unable to pay for the servers. They're also the only ones with access so this could be the end. 68.134.239.246 (talk) 04:31, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out. ED has survived various ups and downs in the past, but this one looks particularly challenging. The site would need a completely fresh start on the hosting, which is not impossible but would be difficult. The Facebook post isn't a reliable source but it looks as though there are big problems.--♦IanMacM♦ 09:06, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Re this edit: As I've said, a Facebook post/comment doesn't really constitute a reliable source on Misplaced Pages. It may well be that the site has run into big problems and has gone offline permanently, but there is a small chance that it might return. Even the ED diehards think that the site is now defunct, but the future is a long time.--♦IanMacM♦ 07:43, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

There are some interesting tweets here but again they don't count as a reliable source. It's also worth noting that the official ED Twitter account https://twitter.com/eddotse now says "Account suspended" - not sure when or why this happened. The theme of the tweets and the Facebook comments is a single point of failure, in other words, does ED have enough admins and backups of the site to come back from this? Maybe it's too early to say, and my hope is that a reliable source somewhere will comment on this. It would be a pity if ED died and no-one in the mainstream media attended the funeral.--♦IanMacM♦ 16:40, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

That thread says that no one wants to take the helm due to the potential of social repercussions. Also I doubt the media would “attend the funeral” because of the way the site died. 8Chan got the coverage it did because it got deplatformed in response to two mass shootings that were connected to the site. 8Chan died with a bang while ED slowly fizzled out. 68.134.239.246 (talk) 14:16, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Re this edit: One of the reasons for the revert is that people have pronounced the last rites on The Pirate Bay many times after raids, trials, domain and hosting problems etc; but it is still going, while many other torrent sites have fallen by the wayside. I agree that it doesn't look good for ED at the moment, but there is a small possibility that it might return if someone has a working backup. Also, we are stuck with the problem that tweets, Facebook posts etc are not a reliable source because anyone can say anything they like in them and they are not subject to fact-checking.--♦IanMacM♦ 09:08, 21 January 2020 (UTC):

Can someone add that the owner of the .se domain got arrested? --CBTover (talk) 09:58, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Not really, if the only source is a tweet or Facebook post. Sorry folks, I don't make the rules. ED has always been secretive about who its key personnel are, and we don't even know the name of the site admin who has apparently been arrested and imprisoned while facing a federal charge of some sort. *Maybe* this will surface in the mainstream media at some stage, as it did with Weev.--♦IanMacM♦ 10:10, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

E.D. down again

Shouldn't we mention the site is down since the owner of the sites have been arrested as far as I know?UpWithJimmy (talk) 02:35, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

See the section above. I would love to be able to say something firm about why ED is down, but if it can only be sourced to a tweet or Facebook post it isn't much use. The WP:LEAD and the infobox point out that ED is down in January 2020, but there needs to be better sourcing. I'm not suggesting that the ED folks are lying/hoaxing about the site admin being in prison after being arrested, but tweets and Facebook posts are not suitable sources per WP:SPS.--♦IanMacM♦ 06:59, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

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