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| :We've needed this for a long time. ] 01:04, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | :We've needed this for a long time. ] 01:04, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
| ::We have. I think this was the best way to create such a collaboration. I believe the WikiProject Islam is not enough NPOV. There are many places on WP where people non-critical of Islam have grouped together, but there was no place there people critical of Islam could group together for collaboration. Hopefully this should help in improving the ] related articles. Although the members of this group will be from both sides, the main aim will be to improve these articles and so hopefully we can work together. --] 01:12, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | ::We have. I think this was the best way to create such a collaboration. <s>I believe the WikiProject Islam is not enough NPOV. There are many places on WP where people non-critical of Islam have grouped together, but there was no place there people critical of Islam could group together for collaboration.</s> Hopefully this should help in improving the ] related articles. Although the members of this group will be from both sides, the main aim will be to improve these articles and so hopefully we can work together. --] 01:12, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
| ::: I don't think Misplaced Pages should be hosting camps for pro-Islam and anti-Islam groups. The Wikiproject Islam page isn't meant for pro-islam views only. Your saying there isnt a place for people critical of Islam to get together, is this the place for that? If so, your not promoting NPOV but anti-Islam POV. At best this area is redundant because Wikiproject Islam already exists and doesnt exclude any opinion, at worst its meant to promote islam-bashing. ] 01:57, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | ::: I don't think Misplaced Pages should be hosting camps for pro-Islam and anti-Islam groups. The Wikiproject Islam page isn't meant for pro-islam views only. Your saying there isnt a place for people critical of Islam to get together, is this the place for that? If so, your not promoting NPOV but anti-Islam POV. At best this area is redundant because Wikiproject Islam already exists and doesnt exclude any opinion, at worst its meant to promote islam-bashing. ] 01:57, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
| ::::Your response was not surprising. Would you say that ] also exists for 'Islam bashing'? ] is a major article which has many sub-articles. I already stated above that everyone can get together and improve the articles in this area. There are many people who are interested in this area, hence this sub-project. Please check the main page of the project and see the full list of there. When those task forces can exist, I dont see why there should be an issue about having this taskforce. This is one of many task forces which are all grouped according to a certain topic or area of interest in Islam.--] 02:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | ::::Your response was not surprising. Would you say that ] also exists for 'Islam bashing'? ] is a major article which has many sub-articles. I already stated above that everyone can get together and improve the articles in this area. There are many people who are interested in this area, hence this sub-project. Please check the main page of the project and see the full list of there. When those task forces can exist, I dont see why there should be an issue about having this taskforce. This is one of many task forces which are all grouped according to a certain topic or area of interest in Islam.--] 02:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
| :::::You should probably strike out the sentence in your comment above that this place is for people "critical of Islam" to gather. I've spent a lot of time on the CoI pages and I'm not here to be critical of Islam, I'm here to improve the quality of articles about that criticism, both the criticism itself and the responses. We all leave our various ideological allegiances at the door when we come to Misplaced Pages as editors. - ] 06:16, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | :::::You should probably strike out the sentence in your comment above that this place is for people "critical of Islam" to gather. I've spent a lot of time on the CoI pages and I'm not here to be critical of Islam, I'm here to improve the quality of articles about that criticism, both the criticism itself and the responses. We all leave our various ideological allegiances at the door when we come to Misplaced Pages as editors. - ] 06:16, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
| ::::::I personally have felt...unwanted in the other Islam-related groups. That's probably what he was referring to. ] 11:28, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | ::::::I personally have felt...unwanted in the other Islam-related groups. That's probably what he was referring to. ] 11:28, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
| ::::::Merzow, I've struck it out now - yes my original motive is for us to get a handle on these articles and to somehow prevent them from being POV Edit war battlegrounds. Now the issue is: How should we use this taskforce to make these articles better? Thats the issue now. I asked Striver for his advice who's done this kind of work on Islam articles. --] 19:41, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
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This is a new Taskforce
I created this taskforce modelled on the other Islam related taskforces, such as Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Islam/Muslim scholars task force. Any suggestions? The taskforce page is basically empty as you can see. This taskforce has been created so editors critical and non-critical of Islam can join hands in improving articles critical of Islam. Also hopefully, edit wars can be prevented or atleast reduced using this approach. --Matt57 00:16, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- We've needed this for a long time. Arrow740 01:04, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- We have. I think this was the best way to create such a collaboration.
I believe the WikiProject Islam is not enough NPOV. There are many places on WP where people non-critical of Islam have grouped together, but there was no place there people critical of Islam could group together for collaboration.Hopefully this should help in improving the Criticism of Islam related articles. Although the members of this group will be from both sides, the main aim will be to improve these articles and so hopefully we can work together. --Matt57 01:12, 14 December 2006 (UTC)- I don't think Misplaced Pages should be hosting camps for pro-Islam and anti-Islam groups. The Wikiproject Islam page isn't meant for pro-islam views only. Your saying there isnt a place for people critical of Islam to get together, is this the place for that? If so, your not promoting NPOV but anti-Islam POV. At best this area is redundant because Wikiproject Islam already exists and doesnt exclude any opinion, at worst its meant to promote islam-bashing. Shams2006 01:57, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- Your response was not surprising. Would you say that Criticism of Islam also exists for 'Islam bashing'? Criticism of Islam is a major article which has many sub-articles. I already stated above that everyone can get together and improve the articles in this area. There are many people who are interested in this area, hence this sub-project. Please check the main page of the project and see the full list of Taskforces there. When those task forces can exist, I dont see why there should be an issue about having this taskforce. This is one of many task forces which are all grouped according to a certain topic or area of interest in Islam.--Matt57 02:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- You should probably strike out the sentence in your comment above that this place is for people "critical of Islam" to gather. I've spent a lot of time on the CoI pages and I'm not here to be critical of Islam, I'm here to improve the quality of articles about that criticism, both the criticism itself and the responses. We all leave our various ideological allegiances at the door when we come to Misplaced Pages as editors. - Merzbow 06:16, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- I personally have felt...unwanted in the other Islam-related groups. That's probably what he was referring to. Arrow740 11:28, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- Merzow, I've struck it out now - yes my original motive is for us to get a handle on these articles and to somehow prevent them from being POV Edit war battlegrounds. Now the issue is: How should we use this taskforce to make these articles better? Thats the issue now. I asked Striver for his advice who's done this kind of work on Islam articles. --Matt57 19:41, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- You should probably strike out the sentence in your comment above that this place is for people "critical of Islam" to gather. I've spent a lot of time on the CoI pages and I'm not here to be critical of Islam, I'm here to improve the quality of articles about that criticism, both the criticism itself and the responses. We all leave our various ideological allegiances at the door when we come to Misplaced Pages as editors. - Merzbow 06:16, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- Your response was not surprising. Would you say that Criticism of Islam also exists for 'Islam bashing'? Criticism of Islam is a major article which has many sub-articles. I already stated above that everyone can get together and improve the articles in this area. There are many people who are interested in this area, hence this sub-project. Please check the main page of the project and see the full list of Taskforces there. When those task forces can exist, I dont see why there should be an issue about having this taskforce. This is one of many task forces which are all grouped according to a certain topic or area of interest in Islam.--Matt57 02:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think Misplaced Pages should be hosting camps for pro-Islam and anti-Islam groups. The Wikiproject Islam page isn't meant for pro-islam views only. Your saying there isnt a place for people critical of Islam to get together, is this the place for that? If so, your not promoting NPOV but anti-Islam POV. At best this area is redundant because Wikiproject Islam already exists and doesnt exclude any opinion, at worst its meant to promote islam-bashing. Shams2006 01:57, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- We have. I think this was the best way to create such a collaboration.