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Just to let you know, I've created a list of the child categories of Category:California, at: ]. Let me know what you think of it. ] 00:29, 4 August 2005 (UTC) Just to let you know, I've created a list of the child categories of Category:California, at: ]. Let me know what you think of it. ] 00:29, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

==Thanks==

Hi BlankVerse! Thanks for the compliment on the Presidio article; I'll put it in the DYK queue (usually I forget). Compliments are rare here, and I really appreciate it.

Btw, couldn't agree more with the first comment on your user page: "...mourning the loss of civility and and the loss of too many good editors from the Misplaced Pages." It's true, and this has been bugging me for some time. There's ten times more complaining about bad behavior, and organized pillories and punishments, than rewards and kudos. Not sure what to do about it, but losing good editors to burnout is a bad thing. Peace and happy editing, ] ] 14:48, 23 August 2005 (UTC)


==About rotating the photo of the New Otani...== ==About rotating the photo of the New Otani...==
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Rotating the photo is fine. I wish I had a higher quality original but unfortunately, my digital camera at the time was a real piece of junk (I have a better one now, as you may have noticed from my recent uploads). --] 17:31, 30 August 2005 (UTC) Rotating the photo is fine. I wish I had a higher quality original but unfortunately, my digital camera at the time was a real piece of junk (I have a better one now, as you may have noticed from my recent uploads). --] 17:31, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

==KRCD==

It might not be total booshwah, but it isn't terribly accurate AFAIK. There's an "X-103.'''1'''" alternative station in San Bernardino but I don't know the call letters. 103.1 out here is soft rock and 103.9 is a translator for a classic rock station at 106.9 in Yucca Valley. I may Google "X 103.1" when I have a moment. Work's kind of hectic this morning. :) - ] 17:41, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

== Lots of edits, not an admin... ==

I'm terribly sorry, but I think I may have accidently knocked you off ] while moving users from the 2.5k list to the 5k list or 7.5k list as needed - a lot of cutting and pasting (although I can't find the diff, so maybe I didn't, but...). I'm going to make it up to you right away, tho, by nominating you for an adminship. I'll give you 12 hours from the time of this post to decline the offer (or prepare your answers). Cheers! --] ] 02:37, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
*...understood. Let me know if you change your mind. Also, I ''like'' adding the deadline, it creates a sense of excitement. ;-) --] ] 04:02, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
**Well, I saw that you put your name on the high edit count list, so I knew you were around... and I took that to mean that you might have an interest. --] ] 04:29, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

==]==
Remember when you said:

''Listify and then delete before someone gets the bold idea to do the same for California. A mess of numbers is practically meaningless, while a good list (see List of California State Routes) can be much getter than either categories or navigation boxes. ''

Yup, guess what happened... ]. --] 05:16, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

== ] ==

Hi. Can I get your opinion of Tony's latest recreation and relisting of a valid VfD deletion at ]. Thanks. - ]]] 15:48, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

== ] ==

I've been investigating the alarming behaviour of this user, including his violation of several of our policies, and plan to start on the most appropriate form of dispute resolution as soon as I have prepared some evidence. Part of that evidence is contained in the abusive comments this user has made towards you.

I would therefore like to extend an invitation to you to advise me of any other users you are aware of that Imdaking has been particularly foul towards. Everything I have is going on ]. All help would be appreciated, and if you would like to join me in whatever action I decide to take, you are most welcome to do so.

This user's behaviour is not acceptable. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 23:19, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

:Thank you! I only just realised (despite watching the page) that you'd posted a load of suggestions on ]. Thanks for all that, I'll sort some more stuff out soon. Yes, I am going to start with an RfC. ] <sup>'']'' | '']''</sup> 12:28, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

==]==
Cheers for your pointer to the guardians world news directory. I shall sit down some day soon and use it to fill in some gaps in ]. I notice that the Guardians collection is hierarchical too, although with quite different divisions at the top level. ] 08:14, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

==Interwiki links==
BV, I am not sure I understand what is different about your suggestion from what I am currently doing. See the top of my user page here. Is it not the same thing? I have a menu linking to each page in every language. It appears on the top of all the pages. Take a look and see if this is what you meant.

I even added arrows so you can easily "tour" the pages by just following the arrows from link to link.

Paul

] ] 16:08, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

:Ah, yes! Now I know what you are talking about. That is very cool! I do think I will use both methods for now.

:I saw an example of this for the first time yesterday, but I only noticed the addition to the bottom of the page (where categories go), not on the sidebar. If you go to my article which was translated into Hungarian yesterday, you will see the link on the side. I noticed the code being added yesterday, but didn't noticed the sidebar link. Totally cool:
::]
:] ] 16:46, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

==Broadcast Bandit Page==
I was inspired by your page on the whereabouts of Ronald20, so I set up a subpage for the goings-on with that "Broadcast Bandit" I brought up on Lucky6.9's talk page. You can find it . ] 16:36, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

== "SF".com links ==

Hi BlankVerse. Am I right to remove the commercial "SF".com links added by ]? I saw that you edited the ] article after I removed the link. The anonymous user has since replaced the reverted links on both that article and the ] article. ] 14:54, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

:Note to ], ], etc.: I'll revert any removal of the name SF.com from my personal talk page. ]] 08:32, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Read Mike Dillions page. He understands the issue and has complied with our requests.. regarding this issue.. we are also in the process of discussing this with the board.. We made a mistake of having our contractors post relevant links on wikipedia even tho they are non commercial and have to do with school information. I guess we made a mistake and wikipedia doesn't want us to offer relevant school information for those schools. Since thats the case, we have ceased after those two links to post any more links. I kindly request you stop post the name SF in your comments. The main reason for this is my client and our users when they type in our name on any search engine because of the great ranks wikipedia has these comments come up. Its not like I'm trying to vandalize your comments its just i believe wikipedia should be used as its intending to promote good content that people want to read and enjoy not derogatory remarks that hurt my client and our users. Thank you for your cooperation. Have a great day :) -Cooldude1234

:If anyone is curious about what this is about, they can check the edit history of my talk page

:To the "SF".com links folks and their contractors: If what you were offering on your website was freely viewable on the internet without any obligatrions on the part of the viewers and without masses of commercial links accompanying the info, then I would have no objections to including links to your website on the Misplaced Pages. There are already a few websites that do provide a wealth of information on many US schools and school districts in such a format, so I have been thinking about creating a couple of templates for use by the ] to be added to schools and school district articles. You should read the Misplaced Pages ] on ] for more information on what is relavant for adding as an external link to articles on the Misplaced Pages. ]] 02:05, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

== About ''Anti-Niño'' ==
BlankVerse: I read it maybe in a textbook or somewhere I cannot recall exactly, but I definitely read it. The idea was exactly what I read. I read it in English, not in Spanish. --Roland 06:57, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

== 204.108.96.10 ==

Sure. I'll help you out as much as I can. Would the IP necessarily be limited to that particular computer or could it be for the whole school? I could probably check this out myself by just seeing if different computers have different IPs at the school. Understand of course that there are over 3,000 students at the school. It is unlikely that anyone would get into any computer-related trouble. The school lacks the skill and presonnel that would be required to enforce its internet policies. The computer that I was at when I wrote that reply is in a pretty open classroom where a lot of students use the computer. (It's also where we produce the school newspaper.) I'm not in the room much of the time, but I could look at when the IP is active on here and have the teacher tell me who's often on the computer at that time. ] 05:10, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
:Well in that case, I don't think I could be of much help. I'm just not sure the system administrators would really care enough to try to deal with problem editors in a rational manner. More likely, it seems to me, if they did anything it would be to not allow anyone to access Misplaced Pages or some such nonsense. I'm not really sure if they'd be able to do this though because last time I checked the internet censorship for LAUSD was managed by a third party. The problem is that even if is the system administrators would understand the problem, they do not enforce restrictions to internet access for individual students. In theory, only students who have agreed to use the internet in a responsible with many (somewhat overly broad) limitations, are allowed to do so. In theory, if a student violates those limitations, he or she will be barred from internet access. In practice, this is unenforcable. It would require that all teachers babysit their students while they are using the internet. This is something most teachers have neither the time nor the interest to do. I assume you have the contact information for the system administrators? The only solution I see, and it's a time-consuming one, is to manually check the IP's recent edits and correct any vandalism. I'll start helping out with this myself. The other thing would be find out what all the LAUSD IPs are so they don't get blocked. ] 16:04, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

==Template:California/Temp==
Template:California/Temp has been deleted! Thanks for reminding me. I forgot it existed. And thanks for the tip about the new stub message! ] 18:07, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

== Thank You ==

Thank you for fixing that small edit error on my part.

] 10:45, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

== A Reward for Your Kindness ==

Dear BlankVerse,
:After considering all that you have done for me as a fairly new user, I wish to grant you with a Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar. If you feel this is in need, please tell me so and I will send it to you. If you feel that your acts are not worthy, then I suppose I will understand. Regardless, I want you to know how thankful I am.

::With Thanks,
::] (])
==Ronald 20==
First, i love your "Use Misplaced Pages at your own risk" poster. It is very pertinent with regard to the science articles.

Second, I just wanted your opinion with regard to the anon user who also appears to be ronald20. I have reverted a few of his edits, even when they look like they might be correct. He seems to always add made up nonsense. Are there examples where he actually contributes with factual information?

I have to say that users like Ronald could be a big problem for wikipedia. We can't verify all these types of edits and it is quite easy for the misinformation to build up. Misplaced Pages already has a credability problem with this regard and when vandals start to become more sophisticated it will be tough to keep it current and correct. Does wikipedia have a policy on how to policy such random edits? ] ] 22:00, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the long explanation. I have encountered a similar user in the sports pages. Despite months of attempts at communication there was not a peep from the editor. Eventually I started tweeking the edits he made into a style that was a compromise style and low and behold he actually did copy it. So I think you are right to hold out some hope. Did you notice that I created a template of your disclaimer? See ]. Maybe you can make changes there and then if others decide to use it too every ones page will be updated simultaneously.
:Thanks for the rants links, I share many of those frustrations too. One that really scares me is that other web sites copy verbatim the wiki pages and present them as factual information. Not to mention that many naive users seem to think if it's on the web it must be true. It worries me that wiki half truths are disseminated as facts. Misplaced Pages should worry too since their reputation could easily take a plunge if it gets out of hand. The least the can do is make the disclaimers more prominent. In that regard you should check out this page and discussion too (]). It is a few months old but shares some of your concerns. ] ] 04:51, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::By the way , notice what Jimbo Wales had to say about a ]. Something to hide?] ] 04:54, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:::"I think that you should consider Hanlon's Razor" I hadn't considered that but it would make sense too. For me the more we acknowledge the 'crap' the better. One thing for sure is that wiki has a long way to go, but, i have also learned a lot from the info in wikipedia. It could be (is) a fantastic resource and at the moment I am optimistic it will become useful in my area of interest, science. ] ] 05:41, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

== Black Page ==

You have good points. As a new user to wikipedia, I've been suprised to notice that the best articles tend to be the more obscure ones. The bigger pages tend to self destruct through opinionized and anti-opinionised editing, which seems to result in a lot of words and a lot of trivia, but not much substance! <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) (UTC{{{3|}}})</small><!-- -->

==Kaibab comments==

Thanks for the welcome, BlankVerse, and I appreciate the links (I hope I've been within the starndards of civility, as I certainly aim to be--especially since I was drawn to the idea of Misplaced Pages based on the idea of open discussion--and like what you had to say in you Black Box as well, despite the fact that I have only a vague notion of its meaning). As per the user ang for Old English I had wanted to put ang-0 to denote that I have dabbled in the language and understand its concepts, but couldn't reasonably speak or understand it. I'm assuming that that template hasn't been created either--as someone quite interested in the linguistics pages, I thought that the xx-0 was perfect for dead languages that one may have studied the grammars of, but could't not actually speak. Thanks again!] 03:45, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks again for the links. It's funny too that you point out how to create links to other lanaguage user sites as I think I discovered how to do that while you typing. As per my open discussion comment, I meant mearly during the editing process, i.e., the discussion page. I like that people seem to be intent on discussing things (civilly) before making rampant edits. It allows a consensus to be formed, and I think leads to a superior encyclopedic article. And, after having done more indepth exploring of the encyclopedia, I can more readily see which articles are excellent examples the original concept of encyclopedia, and which articles require refinement.
:I also had a few questions regarding etiquette. It would appear that most communication between users when not related to a specific article is done in the users 'talk' or 'discussion' page, and I see that you requested I put new comments at the bottom. I only put my old one where I did previously for organization, but after having recieved your messages better understand how the communication system works (I hadn't seen the 'you have new messages' before). Does the user then cut and paste comments such as mine to better organize their page? And, my second qeustion, is it appropriate for me to be burdening you with mundane questions such as these, or is there some general page I can go to similar to the one on civility or how to edit a page?] 07:23, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== The {twoversions} template is up for deletion again ==

FYI, the {twoversions} template is up for deletion again: ]. ]] 19:06, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== Editor-in-Chief ==

]
I hereby acknowledge you as Editor-in-Chief of Southern California. It is an important job and you are the best editor to fill it. - ] 10:41, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== Misplaced Pages:WikiProject California ==

Thanks for your suggestions on the info I should include in my proposed articles. It'll give me some additional things to research. I'm hoping to gather as much history and other information as I can on them before sitting down to write.
--] 16:48, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== Deleting photos ==
Thanks for your advice abouth the copyrigth in Google Earth photos. I`ve already deleted the links to the page of the satellite photo of the Hollywood Sign and some others that i uploaded without knowing the copyrigth thing. It is necesary to delete it from the Wiki server, and how do it?
--] 16:11, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

I´ve added the command that you send me to the photos from Google Earth that have been uploaded. Big mistake. Lets hope that an administrator sees the speedy deletion request. Thanks!
--] 12:33, 4 November 2005 (Colombia local time)

== Writing as a spiritual practice ==

Hi BlankVerse,

Thanks for your feedback on the use of ] on ]. I was wondering if you might have some suggestions for other articles that might be promising candidates related to "writing as a spiritual practice." Do you have any other suggestions for improving that template? ] &mdash; ]<sup>]</sup> 03:37, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

== SF ==

They're complaining because now when you search for their company, you get their name followed by "clusterfuck" in Google. Not exactly a good thing for a kids-related company. &mdash; <small>]] &bull; 2005-11-4 13:22</small>

== Sakura, Kigo ==

I have a question for you. On the day that the picture Magical Sakura was featured on the front page, several people expressed dissatisfaction with the picture's manipulated nature. They would like to change the picture to something more technical, which I understand. In the meantime, I'm trying to convince them not to, but in case such a thing should happen, I wonder: Do you think that the picture would be better suited for the ] article? I'm asking your opinion because you seem to have done a lot of work there. I would have to have my nice picture become orphaned, but the people do have a point about the unencyclopedia nature of the picture withn the Sakura article itself, especially the picture's presence in the taxobox.

Any advice is appericiated.] 01:04, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

== The mergist view ==

In placing your comment on my talk page, you gave it to me. I'm sorry that you did not find it to your satisfaction that it went to ], but if you were concerned about this, you ought not have sent it in the first place. Please appreciate that I cannot read minds; if you did not wish to be involved in this discussion, you ought to have stayed out of it from the get-go. ]]]] 22:06, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

== Spellchecker ==

Thanks for letting me know about the second one. I've blocked it too. Cheers, ] <sup><font color="Purple">]</font></sup> 20:14, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

== Re Avoid Using Meta-templates ==
Thanks for the feedback. I tweaked the ] page accordingly: chg /meta-template/skeleton template/ in 2 places in the scope creep section. If this is not the right (effective) approach for clarifying consensus, let me know.

I've also updated the ] page for server load to mention the guideline and reflect immediate vs when used impacts in the load model example. -- ] 20:45, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

FYI Thread with your comments re scope creep and related clearness issues in ] moved from ] to ], with my remarks -- ] 17:58, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

==school disambiguation==

This is a major issue. I actually discovered this when doing the ] page experiment. Fortunately there seems to now be a consensus on how schools should be named. ie. Washington Elementary School (Charlotte, Michigan). One of the major points i have been trying to make to the school deabte is that by first creating lists, with redirect pages for each school, the disambiguation pages and school pages can be established. THEN, people can worry about the content. At the moment i just see lots of random school articles with no context.

Recently i just checked my local madison high schools on a massive list that the school project was planning to use to create more school stubs, see ]. On that page i posted the following observation.
*There is a problem with that list of ]. For example, i looked at the list of schools in Madison (my area). Listed on the sub page ] are the following five high schools:
*#] &mdash; ]
*#] &mdash; ]
*#] &mdash; ]
*#] &mdash; ]
*#] &mdash; ]
*It's a start but after looking through this list i realise that the red/blue links can cause confusion with regard to disambiguation. The east and west high schools are pointing to the the wrong school. Memorial is a red link but, in fact, that is the one school for which wikipedia does have a page (]).

In summary i think your points about a disambiguation template need to be brought up sooner than later. Especially since, believe it or not, the school debate may well be close to a ]!!!!!! ] &#91;&#91;User talk:Daycd&#124;(Talk)]] 16:51, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:I agree that ] pages are so disfunctional. In fact, I have no idea how i got sucked into it since my real reason for being here is to get the science pages more accurate. Thanks for the help with the signature. I'll make some suggestion in the school discussion re: disambiguation citing some of the examples you pointed out as well as the flaws in relying on blue/red link lists. Cheers ] ] 18:10, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

== Oxnard ==

I have nearly completed my research on gang injunctions in ]. Look for it soon. 8)--] 17:24, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Howdy, actually I put the "Attention" tag after seeing some smaller things such as spelling and grammatical errors. I've gone back and addressed these and have removed the tag myself. Sorry for the trouble, -- ] ] 16:02, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

:Well, it wasn't much of a copyedit in the article's grand scheme, but I figure that grammar- and spelling-related edits make an article more readable (to me, anyway) while the content itself is sorted out. I see what you mean about the templates; I see some others such as "In Use" but they imply the work will only take place for a few minutes. The "Under Construction" is perhaps more applicable, but I've seen so many other websites that have displayed something like that for years. Anyway there's probably a good solution waiting to happen among all these templates... Happy editing, -- ] ] 17:41, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

I see you noticed my additions to the Oxnard article. Thank you for helping edit the section. I have taken you up on the suggestion to write the article ]. If there is any way I can improve it, please let me know.--] 21:27, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
:Thank you for nominating ] for DYK. I didn't realize one could nominate one's own articles for the section. Regarding your request that I let you know about any edits I intend to make to controversial topics that are constantly vandalized such as ], will do.--] 20:23, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

==WLA Edits==
I'll keep an eye out! ] 18:48, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

==WP:SCH==
Please review the changes made to the WP Schools proposeal. I believe we've addressed your concerns about phone book information.] 20:29, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

==]==
Thanks; I have fixed the double San Jose on both maps. It may take a little while to show up. --] (]) 19:57, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

== Templates you nominated ==

Hi BlankVerse. You nominated a bunch of formatting templates for deletion a week ago. They await your (or other's) ministrations in the ]. I'd do them myself, but they're fiddly :) -]<small><sup>]</sup></small> 22:18, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

== Disambiguating abbreviations ==

You contributed to the TFD discussion for {{tl|2LCdisambig}}. I am following this with further discussion at ]. ] ] 18:45, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

== CadetStuff Wiki ==
Just wanted to reply to what you said about copying content from Misplaced Pages to my own wiki on ]. I will be sure to link back to Misplaced Pages on all documents I borrow, and also release them under the GFDL. Thanks for the welcome, too. I would also like to say that I found your userpage interesting, not being a part of Misplaced Pages too much I haven't seen the problems you talk about. It will be interesting to see how things develop on my own wiki. ] 09:58, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== Haiku page ==

Hello Blankverse;

I've touched the haiku page a bit - it should be looking better for anyone. The origin of haiku section is edited, errors corrected. Just FYI - I know you're busy with the Kigo page, which looks great.

As for the old pond translation, I replaced Blyth's with my own. First published in ''Kawazu Awase'', a collection of one-on-one hokku matches on the subject of frogs, Bashō's 'old pond' hokku sings of a (or multiple) aurally perceived frog(s).

Best regards,

--] 11:01, 28 November 2005 (UTC)


I agree with you about giving subsections to Imagists and Beat poets. At the same time - I'm considering putting a substantial amount of articles on modern and contemporary haiku writers in Japan, since the "Modern Haiku" section is practically empty. I'll work on these slowly. Best, ] 08:50, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

== Heard that.........==

Heard that you may need a Admin. for some kind of vandalisation need. I have two Admins. on my
user page.] 06:42, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Good luck] 07:49, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

How would you like to be nominated to BE a Admin. ?] 01:16, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

== I see the proverbial floodgate has been opened ==

Regarding the Classmates.com essay, I would prefer to refine it a bit more before it gets copied and pasted anywhere. To be clear on the motives of your suggestion, as I don't believe I've had any previous contact with you, which side are you on? I'm chuckling as I write this, not completely disregarding the possibility that I might soon be simultaneously lampooned on several projects as a bigoted, anti-intellectualist, or uber-deletionist zealot, none of which I consider myself, btw. &mdash; <b><i>]</i> <small>(<span class="plainlinks"></span>)</small></b> 18:30, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
:Okay, I've read the involuntary exerpt, and I find the comparison to fancruft particularly damning, especially to those who use templates to blanket-vote keep on all school articles without reading them, which is part of what inspired my essay to begin with. I will do some more writing on it tonight, I think. I need to come up with a title that can be made into a catchy acronym. I'm thinking something that spells "SLICEDBREAD" would be excellent, but I'm struggling on it. By the way, feel free to revert the intentional red link at the top of your talk page if so desired. &mdash; <b><i>]</i> <small>(<span class="plainlinks"></span>)</small></b> 19:14, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
::I triple-dog-dare you (in a new jersey courtroom) to add "Third desk..." to the template you mentioned. &mdash; <b><i>]</i> <small>(<span class="plainlinks"></span>)</small></b> 19:46, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
:::No, but I did participate in ] which started it all. It might be worth re-reading. &mdash; <b><i>]</i> <small>(<span class="plainlinks"></span>)</small></b> 20:24, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
===hoax!===
::::See ] &mdash; <b><i>]</i> <small>(<span class="plainlinks"></span>)</small></b> 21:19, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

==About Preschool articles...==

Many of the inclusionists also vote to keep those as well. Not as many as elementary schools, but some like Nicodemus and Yuckfoo do vote the keep ALL schools, including preschools.] 21:54, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

== Appreciate Info ==

Appreciate the info. Thanks. Could'nt access it on their site. Maybe they still have 9-11
jitters.] 00:30, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

== Great Power==

You know what they say, With great power, comes great responsibility.] 00:34, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

==TV Market==
Hi, I have noticed that in the past you have edited or created a template for a television DMA (market) in North America, or have edited an articles about television stations. Currently their are several different styles of the template being used. Because of this i have set up a workshop to obtain input on setting up a common configuration for these templates. Feel free to assist at ]. Also while you are their, feel free to leave you name as a participant on the ] as well as any comments you might have, to help wikipedia improve articles on television stations. If you know some one else who has helped contribute to these templates or you think would like to help, please pass this mesage on to them.--] | ] 06:45, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

== Re: Aranda56 adminship ==

Thank you for the notification, but I already participated in that discussion, voting neutral. &mdash; <b><i>]</i> <small>(<span class="plainlinks"></span>)</small></b> 16:16, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

==Our friend Ronald==

I'll revert that back. That title isn't even correctly formatted. Unless KDIS has an FM affiliate, the proper syntax would be "KDIS-AM" and "KDIS-FM." Thanks for the tip. - ] 20:16, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Will do. Just passing through right now, but I'll take a look ASAP. I changed that KDIS thing back to the original title and left word on the IP talk page as to what the proper formatting of broadcast call letters should be. Heck, I should know. :) - ] 20:22, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Good question; it's just that I happen to know since I work in the industry. That's an excellent point and should be added to the manual of style if it isn't already there. - ] 20:33, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Which just goes to show ya that I need to read the tutorials a bit more often m'self. :) I was just signing off but I'll update that later. Thanks for the link; it'll be a tremendous help! - ] 20:53, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

==Minor Edit Codes==

I have noticed that when some edits are made, people use certain shorthand codes to describe their edits. For example, I believe "rv" means "revert," and "sp" means "fixed a spelling error." Is there a Wiki page with these all listed? I would like to become familiar with them. In particular, I wonder if there is a shorthand for grammar or sentence structure edits. ] 08:24, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

I have another Edit Codes question. Sometimes when people revert I see the comment in the history says something like "Reverted to last version by so and so.." with clickable links and IPs if it was an anonymous user. Is there a command that creates that specific edit comment format? ] 07:53, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

== Seigenthaler ==

See my reply to your comment on ]. --] 06:04, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

== Comics Contact...==

Appreciate this info. Thanks. Do you have contact info. for Marvel Comics ?] 09:28, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Appreciate this info. Cheers. ] 22:54, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

== Welcome ==

Thank you for your welcome BlankVerse! I was surprised about the problems whith bad behaving administrators, I hope you find a solution for it.
See you soon!
] 16:38, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

>>I hope that all of this doesn't discourage you<<

All on the contrary! :-) ] 01:00, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

:Ok! I was trying to do the interlingual links because I read about it somewhere but I didn't quite understand how they worked, thank you! - ] 14:12, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
::Done! I wasn't very sure what languages should I put there and wich ones I should leave out. I'm not sure if it's useful at all to have languages in which I have a very basic level and in which I cannot write. But that was the description... - ] 15:23, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

:::I finally had a little time and added some things to the article about Carlos Barral, I also redirected Carles Barral to it. ] 20:08, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. I hope I can contribute to wikipedia and get some good articles going, or improve some of the ones in need.
--] 07:46, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for welcoming me (: I hope I can help make Misplaced Pages a great place, since in a way, it's my "virtual home." I love an environment where everyone has access to information! I shall put your advice to good use. |] 23:33, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

== AP stories ==

Didnt know if you caught this but i ran across this on the wires today, , strangely noting has changed according to what the article states, also makes me wonder what kinda legal action that Seigenthaler could be considering aginst the foundation. I also ran across this article from about two minths ago , i espically like this bit <blockquote>" Supporters say its open, collaborative nature leads to a more complete, '''bias-free reference source''', though when the topic is controversial the wiki entry can resemble a battlefield."</blockquote>. Maybe it time for changes at the top, ie leadership, ie oust Whales? --] | ] 07:52, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

== ] ==

Actually of the four stub templates, {California-stub} was in my opinion, the least important of the four. Lewin was a US collector of the art of Mexico who left it to a California museum. Where it ended up is not particularly important. <span style="font-family:cursive">]</span> ] 21:48, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

== Firefox ''can'' search in textarea ==

See here ]. Hope it'll help. ] <sup>]</sup> 22:44, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

== Activate the RonaldWatch again ==

Seems to want to impose a change to the {{tl|Infobox Broadcast}}. Also would keep an eye on the anons ] (]&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;]), ] (]&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;]), ] (]&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;]). --] | ] 23:22, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

== ] ==

Thanks for the clean-up on the page, it's currently being held up because I haven't received a response from the principal on some basic necessities for the page (student population, past principles, etc). I may go on a fact finding mission myself in the next few days at this rate. Figured that my own school would be a good place to start on article creation. Anyway, hope to see you around SoCal pages! ] 00:12, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

The most famous alumni currently is ], a pro football player for the KC Chiefs. I had the pleasure of paparazzi-ing at the Centennial sports banquet that he was at. Quite a lot of exciting stuff going on around campus these days. ] 09:06, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

==query==

I saw your user page and was highly intreagued, and I was wondering what you would suggust a humble wikiuser like myself could do to deal with the problem. Is there an artical, such as 'misuse of adminship on Misplaced Pages' or some other place in which you could help to eradicate this problem? Also, if you could assist my organization of the ] artical, and perhaps give me pointers on how best to arrange my topics, that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance,--{{User:Akako/Sig}} 01:09, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

== Re: ASI CSULB ASI logo ==

I suppose that using ''any'' image representing a copyrighted logo in the right context qualifies as fair use, no matter where the data came from. I've even drawn some logos myself and tagged them as fair use images. &ndash;] 06:26, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

== ] ==

Please vote to keep my image on Misplaced Pages. You may voice your opinion on whether or not to have the image deleted at ]. I also wanted to let you know that it looks like my ] will remain on Misplaced Pages.--] <sup>]</sup> 23:09, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

== Burrito ==

Hi, again. You added ''The filled burrito is then lightly grilled'' to ]. To the best of my knowledge, most traditional burritos are not prepared that way, so I'm interested in your sources or why you believe that they are. As far as I know, the tortillas are either briefly steamed or lightly grilled, removed from the steamer or grill, and placed on a plate or on aluminum foil (or both), and then filled. I'm sure there are variations on this theme, but I'm interested in your opinion. --] 08:54, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:I wasn't actually referring to a Bay Area-style burrito, nor am I familiar with any restaurants that grill the burrito ''after'' filling it. In fact, I've never heard of such a thing. I do know that there are variations on cooking methods, such as the deep-fried burrito (which is fully immersed in a fryer). Perhaps you could set the record straight and correct me with a good citation? I'm always willing to learn something new. Also, how exactly do you grill a full-size burrito without it falling apart, a problem which is compounded by the fact that it might contain cold products like chopped lettuce and sour cream, which for all intents and purposes you want to keep cool? I've had burritos in New Mexico and Mexico, but didn't notice if they were grilled or not. --] 09:16, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
::Ok, I just found a place that grills the burrito ''after'' placing it in foil. It's called ''Taco Loco'' in ]. Since steaming is common, it might be best to mention both. I'm starting to wonder just how common burrito grilling is, and whether we should place undue emphasis on this preparation method. --] 09:39, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Hey, nice work on those edits. Thanks for taking my input into account. Now we can get down to business and argue about who makes the best burrito! Take care. --] 06:48, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

== CanadianGuy ==


Hi BlankVerse.. I'm curious as to the tutorials posted to my talk page. Did I make an error that I've failed to realise? Just Curious. ]

Alright BV, thanks for the welcome. ]

== LACMTA help ==

I've noticed that SAUNDERS hasn't been active in around two weeks, so I wanted to ask for your opinion on the history section of the ]. I've created a ] that reorganizes the history into managable sections but retains the year-by-year format that SAUNDERS insisted on. One person liked it; I would like your opinion before making any major changes, however. - ] 07:49, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

:I've intergrated the changes you suggested into the temp article. I left a note on SAUNDERS user page, but he hasn't responded, so I'd like your opinion again. - ] 07:19, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

== Dangerous Visions ==

Oh. Thanks. I diddn't understand what you explained, but I'll smile and nod anyway. If you can be more specific, I'd be happy to figure out what the answer to my question meant.
] 23:37, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

==Your edits are all welcome!==
Thanks so much for chiming in. I'll look at the LAUSD/high schools in Cali articles when I get a chance. Hopefully we can get them all articles soon. That should solve a lot of the mess. Anyway, please dig in to ] whenever you're so inclined. Thanks muchly. ] 00:14, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

==Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Southern California/Los Angeles County to do==
Neighborhoods list tightened to paragraph. I pruned out all of the blue links without reference to their stubbiness or not on the grounds that it's hard for new (or even old users) to tell which articles need attention mosts. Red links are an obvious "fill in this blank" come-on. I'd understand if you totally reverted, but I found the previous listing to be strangely discouraging without a clear demarcation between what needs to be started from scratch and what needs to be developed (and to what degree). Anyway, revert if that's what you feel is best, but IMHO the project is best served by separating "missing articles" from "stubby articles," which can attract different kinds of editors. Thanks for all you do. ] 06:02, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

== The Movement ==

What does this one think of the movement? --] 02:04, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

== ] ==

Why create a subpage? What is this article about? ]<b>]</b> 07:10, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

==Merry Christmas!!==
] 22:33, 24 December 2005 (UTC)]]

== RE:Longbeach, California ==

I was going to copyedit and reorganize/reformat the entire article&mdash;such as moving lists to its own article, etc. There are too many lists on that page and they clutter up the article. I decided not to mess with it now since there is a disputed section with a deletion tag and it would take longer than I thought. ] 17:29, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

== Haiku ==

Hey BlankVerse, thanks for the haiku, but if I'm counting correctly the first one you added doesn't contain the right number of syllables in the first line. Other than that, fantastic! ] (] | ] | ]) 12:52, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

== Long Beach, California/Two Eastsides ==

Greetings:

As the closer for the AFD revolving around ], I have taken the liberty of userfying it to your userspace. It can now be found at ]. Subpages within userspace are generally the preferred method of "works in progress," rather than subpages within article space. And you can still transclude the page, e.g. <nowiki>{{User:BlankVerse/Two Eastsides}}</nowiki>.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

All the best.<br>
]|<font face="arial, helvetica" size="0"><sub>]</sub></font> 21:16, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

== Mulholland Drive ==

Thank you for your compliments regarding the map. ] 23:15, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

== {{tl|gang-stub}} ==

Hi there. You expressed an interest in the creation of the above stub type at ]. I just thought I would let you know that {{tl|crime-org-stub}} has been created with {{tl|gang-stub}} as a redirect, as per the discussion. --] 16:26, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

== HBHS alumni? Help please! ==

I am currently a senior at HBHS and did a major rewrite of the ] article. The 1906 and 2004 sections are well-written because I used an old ''Oiler Times'' article (June 2004) for the 1906 section. The 2004 section is observation and informatio that I've heard around the school. The ] however just sucks. I read on ]'s page that you graduated in the 1970s, so could you rewrite that section? - ] 05:37, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

== ] ==

Thanks for you good work spell checking for those of us who forgot to do so ourselves :-) ] - have used my dinosaur method of cuting and pasting into word - made another couple of spelling changes and 3 grammar :-), WW.

== Articles For Deletion ==

Hi, a while ago you made some comments about the presence of bible-verse articles, and/or source texts of the bible, and you may therefore be interested in related new discussions:
*A discussion about 200 articles, one each for the first 200 verses of Matthew - ]
*A discussion about 18 articles, one each for the first 18 verses of John 20 - ]
*A discussion about whether or not the entire text of a whole bible chapter should be contained in the 6 articles concerning those specific chapters - ].

--] | ] 18:14, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

==Adminship==
The problem with raising the bar for new admins is that it in no way addresses the problems people have with existing admins, nor the fact that people who have been admin for several months since their "promotion" may have changed in character, opinion and outlook, and may have become controversial even if they weren't before. I'm not opposed to RFA reform, but please realize that it actually has little to do with ''accountability'' of existing admins. ]]] 15:02, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
*Please take a look at ]. I think I'd like to pose those questions to the community. If it needs rewording or if I've missed something, I'd appreciate your opinion. ]]] 17:40, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
**If, as you say, there had been a higher standard for admins, I agree that ''some'' of those admins who are now problems would have been prevented from becoming admins. But I think that ''most'' of those problematic admins did not become problematic until well into their adminship. People change. New users are bright, open and enthousiastic (to quote some cliches) and long-term users tend to get different personality traits. More set in their ways maybe, a bit jaded at times, or thoroughly stressed out for some. So I think we should have both higher standards for new admins, and uphold those standards for existing admins. The latter is especially tricky. ]]] 12:50, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

== Thank you! ==

Thank you for your kind welcome message: the links you posted were very helpful.

] 22:23, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

== Gangs ==

Hey BlankVerse. I don't know if you're around right now, but apparently someone didn't like my reworking of the ] article, and they have reverted it again after I reverted once. Would you mind taking a look to see if this user's contributions merit inclusion? Perhaps I am wrong. But I don't want to get caught up in any edit wars, and I know you have some interest in the subject. Thanks, --] 23:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

== Question ==

Why exactly did you revert me on ] ? ] 21:28, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

:HeHe, it's O K ] 01:02, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

== Gangs and POV ==

Actually, my reason for being interested in gang-related articles is the same as yours. I took your advice, addressing the IP in question (all of whose edits are on gang and city articles.) Just waiting now. On another note, I recall your asking me to alert you if I made any changes to the article ] so you could insure that the edits do not violate Misplaced Pages's NPOV policy. Well someone else has beat me to it, so you may want to check it out, but I thought I might see if you'd offer the same service to another Southern California-related article that is currently experiencing vandalism and edit warring: ]. I have a new version in my sandbox ]. Would you mind checking it for POV? If not its cool. I didn't think it would hurt to ask.--] 21:01, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

==]==
If the Treasure article is a hoax, why hasn't it been listed on AfD? ]|] 17:50, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

:You keep deleting it from the article, but you still can't be bothered to list it on AfD. Sounds like ] to me. ]|] 03:43, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== Ken Parker Disambiguation ==

I am a new wikipedia editor, and I could use some guidance on how to go about creating a disambiguation page. Ken Parker is currently linked to a fictional italian comic book character. There is another Ken Parker, a luthier, and founder of ]. If you could instruct me on how to creat a disambiguation page, and a stub on Ken Parker the luthier, that would be wonderful. Thank you very much. ] 13:52, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

==Please check your ] entry==
Greetings, editor! Your name appears on ]. If you have not done so lately, please take a look at that page and check your listing to be sure that following the particulars are correct:
#If you are an admin, please remove your name from the list.
#If you are currently interested in being considered for adminship, please be sure your name is in '''bold'''; if you are opposed to being considered for adminship, please cross out your name (but do not delete it, as it will automatically be re-added in the next page update).
#Please check to see if you are in the right category for classification by number of edits.
Thank you, and have a wiki wiki day! ] ] 04:18, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== LA streets ==

I'm curious as to what is notable and non-notable. If you look at the category streets in New York, there are far more streets listed than in L.A. My minimum criteria for listing an L.A. street is a somewhat major thoroughfare, and/or has cultural significance. At this point, I have listed nearly every major street in Los Angeles and I may as well be done. ] 01:01, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I agree that someone should create an article on that street due to its historical significance. As for 3rd St, I believe it does yield importance because it is a major thoroughfare (like the famous ] ) and contains many businesses that are popular among celebrities. If one were to include every "number street" in L.A. i.e. 2nd st, 4th st, 5th st, 6th st, etc., and these streets are certianly in existence, then I would agree with you about non-importance. Anyway, as I said, I have created pages for every major L.A. street I know, therefore, I am at completion or nearing it.

== Someone's registered your name at Wikime ==

at Wikime... Just thought you should know. ] 00:18, 23 February 2006 (UTC) (])

==Ronald20==
I think it's time to ban him. I just checked my watchlist, and he's still labeling all major NYC TV stations as stubs. You would think that after about 9 months, he would learn, but he hasn't. ] 00:43, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

== year gone past ==

but thanks for noticing... ] 20:38, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

== Ronald20 ==

Thanks for the note. I'd already pretty much concluded he was indeed the author of that (bad-faith) nomination; I'll caution him accordingly. ] 16:53, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

It's word for word what ''I'' wrote, on a nomination of a structurally parallel (Mexico vs. US) -- but actually tiny -- category. The nom looks very much like "retaliation in kind" for that, but I might be assuming bad faith when... other strangeness is at work. ] 17:37, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

== WikiIndex message ==

-- ] | <small>]</small> 20:38, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
: I responded some more to various stuff you wrote at WikiIndex. And that's for the note here. I've never really thought about the welcome template. Would be glad to have you experiment at WikiIndex, for sure. ] | <small>]</small> 18:45, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

== Please help merge articles ==

In relation to the following arbitration case, which is nearing completion:
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And in relation to the following completed centralised discussions:
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Some assistance is requested, '''once the arbitration case is closed''', in merging together the following articles
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And any other such articles that may currently exist

I have already prepared example merges of some of these articles
*] is a merge of verse articles from ] to ] -> should be merged to ]
*] is a merge of verse articles from ] to ] -> should be merged to ] (or similar title)

For titles check out ] (many are currently redlinks)

--] | ] 20:14, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

==KABC and WABC logos==
I noticed that you were editing the relevant pages to indicate that KABC has switched to the WABC version of the "circle 7" logo. This is true as you clearly see from the current video clips on the . Thanks. ] ] 18:55, 22 March 2006 (UTC)


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*I was just leaving and this caught my eye. Do you guys know user:BDAbrahamson ? I just confered with him on a copyright issue as he's a FL. based lawyer/admin that does a lot of legal work for the foundation. Right now he want's email posts, but he got back to me promptly, and also dropped in on the RFC below. May help! Can't hurt. <B>]</B><font color="green">]</font> 05:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC) *I was just leaving and this caught my eye. Do you guys know user:BDAbrahamson ? I just confered with him on a copyright issue as he's a FL. based lawyer/admin that does a lot of legal work for the foundation. Right now he want's email posts, but he got back to me promptly, and also dropped in on the RFC below. May help! Can't hurt. <B>]</B><font color="green">]</font> 05:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

== KNBC, WNBC and WRC logos ==

I noticed that you were editing the relevant pages to indicate that KNBC has switched to the WNBC/WRC version of the "NBC4" logo. This is true as you clearly see from the current video clips on the . Thanks. ] ] 04:41, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Hurly-Burly and the B-bbbbbbarrell Kick==
*Long time, no say hi... so Hi! Love your talkpage top!
*I kicked over in defence of ''guidelines'', and will spam notify a few others in that debate as well.
*I wonder if you will consider dropping me an email detailing some tips on what methods you use to keep up and track all this hurly-burly, as I am daunted by discovering just how many policy proposals are on the listing category, and frankly, 'Frank' doesn't quite ''know how anyone gets enough WikiTime'' to both spend time tracking and commenting on such as well as ''creating things added to wikipedia'', much less keeps up with all that! Shudder!
and Wow! Best regards, <B>]</B><font color="green">]</font> 17:36, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
===If I can trouble you for a little feedback===
I also forgot to swing by and thankyou for the input on handling the policy deluge'''s'''. Or is the 'ess' capitalized in that? I set one off myself tonight on the VP! See ], and follow the link back, then the link to the pump.

It's not quite a party, but...
You are cordially invited to pick on Frank:<br>(Beats handling problems!<G>)<br>
re: ] on new article: ]
This post is being made Friday 14 April 2006 to a double handful (spam?) of admins & editors for some reactions, and advice (Peer Review) on this article, and it's remaining development, as I'd like to put it to bed ASAP. (Drop in's welcome too!) Your advice would be valuable and appreciated. Replies on talk link (above) indicated. Thanks! <B>]</B><font color="green">]</font> 20:30, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
*I just ripped this off my talk cleaning up for a WikiDayOff tomarrow, and realized you weren't an invitee on the above. Apologies. I've gotten some good input, but can use more. Bear in mind to go to the talk section link first for the brief, then the article. The issue is really how to design an article covering the topic. This 'draft' just sort of 'happened', as is explained. (btw- if you don't like history, don't bother! <G>)
Best! <B>]</B><font color="green">]</font> 05:31, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

== California State route 1 ==

Okay, thanks for telling me. ] 00:37, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


== Image:Image name.ext listed for deletion ==

<div style="padding:5px; background-color:#E1F1DE"> An image or media file that you uploaded, ], has been listed at ]. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. <!-- Template:Idw --></div>

Don't panic - I just "Commonsed" it.—] 19:11, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
==Image copyright problem with Image:Grunion_CF&G_-1_125%.jpg==
Thanks for uploading ]. The image has been identified as not specifying the copyright status of the image, which is required by Misplaced Pages's policy on images. If you don't indicate the copyright status of the image on the image's description page, using an appropriate ], it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided copyright information for them as well.

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== ]==

:-) (low priority)
::'Why for' don't we have some sort of timestamp activiated monitoring and autologging on such? I seem to run into a lot more that are inappropriate suggestions, than one's like this good common sensical one by you! // <B>]</B><font color="green">]</font> 17:03, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

== I recently received this email ==

''Fang Aili,

''It has come to my attention that you have deleted the Polk Audio Misplaced Pages entry. We have been in contact with BlankVerse, the original administrator that placed a Copyright violation notice on the Polk Audio entry, and informed him that we have permission to use the text posted to the page. He informed us that Misplaced Pages would need our legal department or marketing boss to release our text to Misplaced Pages under the GFDL. Last week I met with our marketing president and informed him of the issue and he should be contacting BlankVerse very soon (if he hasn't already done so). Would it be possible to restore our Misplaced Pages entry?

''Thanks,

''Kris Siegel
Office 410-764-5210 (or Ext 210)
Web Development Intern
PolkAudio, inc''

:Any idea what I should do with this? I'm sure the answers are on a policy page somewhere, but RL is interfering with my wiki time right now. Thanks. --]]] <sup>]</sup> 21:07, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

==Anaheim Hills==
Would you vote on the Final Naming Poll on the Anaheim Hills, Anaheim, California page by Monday, June 6th at 11:00 pm pst. This is a collaborative effort to determine where the Anaheim Hills page will rest forever with no disputes. There are currently four choices to choose from, so go and check it out. --] 21:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

==Long talk page==
Greetings! Your talk page is getting a bit ] - please consider archiving your talk page (or ask me and I'll archive it for you). Cheers! ] ] 23:31, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

== LA Meetup? ==

Well, it seems as though you and me are the only ones committed to June 24 at Philippe's. Is it on or off? ] 03:35, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

== Signal Hill, California location map ==

Sure, feel free to do that if you think it will help show its location better. If you do make such a map, it would probably be a good idea to explain the color-coding in some way, such as in the image's caption or with a graphic-and-text color key. I could redo the map myself (as I think that is what you implied in your message); in that case, it might be a little bit before I get around to it. ] 05:26, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

==A different style of toc==
I happened to notice that your table of contents was extreme in length. I recently discovered the sliding box that can reduce it to a managable size. Please excuse the intrusion if this is something that does not work for you. ] ] 05:34, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

== Arbitration precedents ==

It may interest you to know that I've added cases to the ] page. --] 16:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

== Signal Hill ==

No worries... that's a great picture. As for the directories, I'm glad you like them. Those lists you gave me were really helpful. ] 16:03, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:It would be interesting to see the difference! Yes, the LoC panoramas are very interesting; I've also been interested by the large number of early stereographic images from the period, which also work really badly on Misplaced Pages unfortunately. As for the list of WikiProjects: as you may well have gathered, the idea of the Directory system is to produce a complete and up to date regional list in a central location, so it stops being being a PITA to find information about these things. My hope is that if there is a central location for all information about co-ordination and WikiProjects, people will keep that up to date, while they may not keep individual sublists up to date. That would only happen of course if the Directory started off in a comprehensive and useful fashion: if it becomes ''the'' place for recording all this co-ordination (there is a huge amount of it and as you have noticed, it's hard to keep track of and at present nobody seems to be trying to do so!) then hopefully it can help prevent unnecessary fragmentation and duplication. But we'll see :-) Any further advice you have would be great! ] 07:01, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

== Ratio vis a vis edit summaries ==

I've been unable to find any cases where the edit summary principles have really been used as ratio dicendi rather than just obiter dicta, except that I suppose to stretch a point one might say that the judgement in ] uses it as a ratio for the FoF that they failed to discuss reverts. --] 16:14, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Grunion ==
Ugh, I think I get hit by the . I thought I had been pretty careful in watching for that, but it looks liked I missed it. Time to disable the toolbar and go back to the mozdev version. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I'll double check my other edits last night. --] 11:00, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

==Behind the Orange Curtain==
Rock on. --] 04:40, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

==Image:Long Beach.gif==

I drew lines over an excisting trackmap found on google. {{unsigned|WikiPino|}}

:Thanks for the advice Mr. BlankVerse ;-).

:In fact I discovered the disfunctional of replacing an image by trying to replace ]. Earlier today I chose 'Upload a new version of this file'. The funny thing is, in the article ] a thumbnail of this new version is displayed like it should be. But when I click on it I get the older version :S. Maybe you can pass this problem forward to Wiki-programmers?

:By the way; I realize my selfmade image of Long Beach isn't that good right now. But I'm sure it would take much longer to make it look like one of the existing maps on the net :p ] 14:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

:: Unfortunately, disabling the page cache didn't work for me. I wonder if you see any difference between the thumbnail and the original image (which is completely upsidedown!). Please let me know ] 08:59, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

:::Thanks for your feedback. I just saw the image has been changed, at last! I'll also try to make a better version of Long Beach.gif.

==Flash cuts==
I asked 70.189.59.196 about the "flash cuts" and area codes. He sent me back a long explanation which convinced me that he is expert on the topic and knows exactly what he's talking about. I encouraged him to post the explanaiton somewhere for the benefit of the project. -] 08:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

==Weights and Measures==

Hi BlankVerse. Can you tell me where I could find a page that would list Misplaced Pages guidelines on the use of weights and measures (if there is one). For example, would you say "Escondido is 30 miles from San Diego" or it's "50 km from San Diego" or "Escondido is 30 miles (50 km)" etc. I'm not looking for a specific answer to that particular situation, but for a policy page where I can get answers related to weight and measures usage in general. In fact, is there a portal in general leading to Misplaced Pages pages that lists pages to other Wiki conventions (for example, it would also link to the city naming convention page). I have browsed through the Misplaced Pages help pages, but with less than satisfactory results. Thanks, ] 03:43, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks for the help (for this and also questions in the past). I appreciate it! ] 04:16, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks for the link. I've started browsing the manual of style and it has a lot of great information. ] 18:43, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

== Snarky Editing ==

You removed a related, non-commercial link that I had posted (http://www.dailynewshaikus.com) from the haiku page with the comment <i>"they are jokes sliced and diced into the 5-7-5 format, so they are neither poetry or senryu. The nternet is filled with news haiku, celebrity haiku, film review haiku, so your site i not special". </i>

Is your job to judge external work or to prevent bad facts, indecent content and vandalism? You believe that the site that I linked does not belong because it's content is more humorous than traditionally "poetic" in your view? Not "special"?

Such editorialism and censorship would be unjust in any case, but is especially ludicrous in light of the fact that the link was posted in a section SPECIFICALY SLOTTED FOR <B>"PSEUDO-HAIKUS"</B>!

As the site was neither offensive or misleading, I am hard-pressed to discern why you would remove it, let alone leave others, let alone make the (inaccurate) observation that the Internet is "filled" with similar sites. )A quick search shows a few defunct one-off stabs at the topic, but no fully-functioing sites devoted thereto). Is Misplaced Pages now a repository only for unique web pages -- because at 400,000,000 URLs and counting, I don't believe such a thing exists anymore.

Please state what exactly you are trying to protect readers from, what a site has to do to be "special" in your eyes, or leave the page linked. I appreciate what you guys do by-and-large (fact checking, arson cleanup, etc.) but feel that in removing content because it does not impress you, you are overstepping your bounds and going against the very mission of Wiki. {{unsigned|KDog1749}}

== RE: Pseudo-haiku and senryu external links ==

BlankVerse:

Thank you very much for taking the time for a thorough and thoughtful response.

I find it odd that you would resist pointing people to a web location based upon the fact that it is not yet readily available elsewhere (why does one need Wiki if one can simply Google?), but if that is part of your standard I must accept it. is only 2 weeks old, and thus is not yet cataloged and findable on many major search engines -- something that I hope to improve/rectify over time. One way I had hoped to work on this was by making the link available on Wiki (perhaps I put the cart before the horse).

I appreciate your feedback (most notably the comment on "haiku " being singular and plural -- I am registering and linking the singular name and will change the site's name).

I do belive that you are giving short shrift to the content of my page -- especially if you would favor "Madeleine Begun Kane Daily News" to mine. Despite the title of her site, she posts only one haiku per day...and has posted only 6 haiku in toto since September 2005. In contrast, mine has featured 9-15 haiku per day (including graphic enhancement and links to the actual news) and is actually updated "daily".
With time, robot crawls, and repeated use/population my web page will clearly climb the ranks of search enginge popularity and findability...if that is as important for your criteria as content, then I hope you will reconsider the link (both its content and "importance") in the near future.

I may not agree with your personal judgment or Wiki ruling, but I do appreciate the time and response. ] 18:12, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

== Saw your essays... ==

...(2 and 3) on the use of admin powers via the ]'s talk pages. I thought you may also be interested in joining an ongoing discussion/proposal digest of ] and ] if you haven't done so. - ''Cheers'', ] 15:30, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

== Jan Burke ==

I was actually surprised when I didn't see an entry for her, and hence immediately set about starting it. Thanks for appreciating it:-) I am currently searching for a link to cite the Bill Clinton reference. It is currently only available in the author's bio and nowere else.

I have also e-mailed the author (just now) if she has any third party references. I didn't know she wrote for the Long Beach Press-Telegram since I didn't find that in the bio. Why don't you add that in her entry?--]] 04:24, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
* Thanks for that edit count info, I found that one was super fast compared to the earlier one.--]] 04:47, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

==LAUSD template==

I have a few ideas - There ought to be some form of template out there - BUT I am in favor of splitting the big LAUSD template into smaller templates.

We could create a template by LAUSD administrative region; LAUSD has 8 regions. Why not turn the one template into eight templates? (see http://notebook.lausd.net/portal/page?_pageid=33,122477&_dad=ptl&_schema=PTL_EP ) ] 20:58, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

== ] ==

Why did you move ] to ]?

It is part of the city of ] like ], right? --] 18:52, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

:So is that little area next to the HS consider "El Modena"? I thought the whole general area would be called El Modena. There's a park down below called El Modena park. The post office there is called El Modena Post Office south of the HS. I can see ] being a community since you have to be county to have horses, but this seems like a few holdouts not a community. But I do see how it can go either way. --] 00:43, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
:]
:*Orange = city
:*Yellow = county

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Nice work. I like the photo. --] 07:41, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

== Indiana ==
The previous version of that page had some preposterous number - maybe 60%? - for African American ancestry, so I went to the census bureau to get the correct numbers. You can check out the reference. Because the previous group listed the top five, I included the top 5, and no, I don't have an explanation; the numbers seem wacky to me, too. If you can find a better source for the ancestry demographics, we should use it. I have no agenda here, except accuracy. ] - ] 08:09, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
: The you've found shows racial characteristics. The US Demographics table (which I was responsible for) immediately above shows racial characteristics, although the table says that if someone is multiracial, they get counted as a member of each racial group, while your source says that if they are multiracial, they aren't a member of ANY racial group. That's why your source shows only 8.6% African-American in Indiana, while the table shows 9.42%.

: What I was working on yesterday was on ancestry, rather than racial characteristics. Thus, the largest groups are German, "American", British, Irish, and Polish, all of which are white, except possibly for "American". I suppose it's quite possible that blacks failed to report the country in Africa from which they descended, or that they responded "African-American" ancestry and the census taker called that an incorrect response, or that they responded "American", or that they declined to answer because they were suspicious of the question. In my experience, most African-Americans know both their tribe and their country of origin. ] - ] 19:21, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

== Queen Mary dining room photo- ==

The photo with copyright question that I uploaded is a 3d model that I created myself on my computer. Feel free to contact with me, but since I own the copyright, I uploaded. it {{unsigned|Ieguy|}}

== Cerritos, California ==

Thanxs for the message. ] again removed the section from the Cerritos page. I reverted the edit and left a content-blanking warning. I hope that works! =D ] <sup>]</sup> 06:04, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

] continues to remove the Grace Hu controversy in the City Council section. Perhaps another higher warning level needs to be meted out. I've also reverted an edit by a user (]) who reposted the City Image section that I originally added and later deleted. ] 06:13, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
::Well, I've posted another message on ]'s message board and on the Cerritos talk page...and I going to remove the City Image section once again. ] 07:56, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I've managed to whack off some extraneous information in the "Economy" section of the Cerritos page, namely in the subsections of the Cerritos Auto Square, the Los Cerritos Center and the Cerritos Towne Center. It's definitely a start in reducing the large size of the overall article. ] 07:39, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

== LA Galaxy ==

Out of curiosity, why remove most of the external links from the article? Those are pretty standard for MLS teams - fan club links, official-discussion-forum links, etc. ] 21:08, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
:Okay, cool. I don't have much of an opinion on the rest of the links, but I added the messageboard link 'cause MLS signed a deal with BigSoccer to provide "community" for its teams, making the LAG webboard at that site the official team board, as linked to from the main LAG website at mlsnet.com. Agreed on the accent issue, though. ] 07:50, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

==]==

Thanks for removing my prod & saving the article. Good work, well done. --] 16:25, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

== California Independence ==

Hello, you commented on the ] article that, ''"This article is rife with unsourced speculation and needs a serious trimming, or even deletion if it isn't improved"''. I encourage to take the intiative to do this yourself. ] I would be interested in working with you on this article, to improve it. Just let me know. ] <b><span style="background-color: #008000"><font color="#ffffff">]</font></span></b> ] 21:55, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

== Re:Lafcadio Hearn... ==

Care to provide a source? The sentence implies either that the reason he is well-kwown in Japan is his writing of those books, which is certainly not the case, or that those books are a more significant reason for his popularity among his Japanese fans than among his Western fans, which is also not true.

It ''would'' be true to say that he is especially well-known in Japan, or to say that he is especially remembered (in the West, or in general) for those collections of legends and ghost stories. Neither of these, however, is what the current wording implies.

I shall wait for your response before making such changes, though.

] 15:51, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

== Cerritos City Council ==

The activity by the user appears to be borderline vandalism. ] says, under "types of vandalism":
*''Blanking: Removing all or significant parts of articles (sometimes replacing the removed content with profanities) is a common vandal edit.''
However it appears that the intent is to improve the article, not to commit vandalism. The editor has posted these edit summaries:
*''perhaps we can come to some kind of an agreement?''
*''this is a personal matter, and should not be on our city article.''
*''im reading your other changes and you feel this one belongs? how long do we have to go back and forth?''
*''I feel there is no reason for this to be on our city page. It is inconsistent with the rest of the article. It has nothing to do with negativity or politics.''
These make it appear that he has serious, if incorrect, concerns about the material. However his failure to engage in any meaningful discussion means that the repeated deletions violate consensus and are disruptive. I see that he has been warned that he may be blocked if he continues to delete the material. While I think a block would be justified, at least to get his attention, it's always better to engage in discussion. I'll watch the Cerritos article and if he deletes again I'll post a note on the AN/I proposing a short block. Thanks for your patience with the editor. -]

:] was tagged for speedy-deletion by ] on October 1 with this comment:
:*''an article about a web site, blog, online forum, webcomic, podcast, or similar web content that does not assert the importance or historical significance of its subject. (CSD A7)''
:It was deleted by ] the same day. -] 05:08, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

::Per ], you have convinced me that the article "]" should not have been deleted. Therefore I am undeleting it. I suggest that you include all reasonable claims of notability for the subject. -] 07:48, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
::Ah, I see you've already convinced the deleting admin. Carry on. Cheers, -] 07:49, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

== Ref ==

Thanxs for the message. I prefer footnotes over parenthetical citations, mainly because the former format looks cleaner. However, if you have a problem with it, feel free to change it back (although I think it looks better now...)! =D ] <sup>]</sup> 08:44, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks for the reply. I prefer the footnote format because I'm more accustomed to it. I believe most pages use the footnote format...but can't be sure. ^_^ ] <sup>]</sup> 23:55, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

==Artesia, California==
Thanks for your note on my user page, but I haven't edited this article. OTOH If I have made such an assumption (don't think I have) I would apologise.--] 15:14, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

== ]/] ==

This notice is to inform you that there is a new discussion open on the ]/] debate. Please visit ] and consider participating. Thank you. —<span style="font: small-caps 14px times; color: red;">] (])</span> 00:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

== Whitney High ==

That does sound serious, however I'm headed to bed and I'm not sure I'll have any time tomorrow either. If there's still an issue on Sunday I should be able to get involved. If it appears more urgent than that I'd encourage you to contact another admin. -] 09:29, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

:I've warned each of them and removed the discussion from the talk page. If there is a recurrence I will block. -] 23:10, 29 October 2006 (UTC)


== Southern California WikiProject == == Southern California WikiProject ==
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Question: Is MetsBot intelligent enough to copy over any of the imporatance ratings in any existing California Wikiproject template with ratings (e.g. <nowiki>{{WikiProject California|class=B|importance=High}}</nowiki>) to the {{tl|WikiProject Southern California}} template? ]] 11:36, 31 October 2006 (UTC) Question: Is MetsBot intelligent enough to copy over any of the imporatance ratings in any existing California Wikiproject template with ratings (e.g. <nowiki>{{WikiProject California|class=B|importance=High}}</nowiki>) to the {{tl|WikiProject Southern California}} template? ]] 11:36, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
:Hi BlankVerse. Unfortunately, MetsBot no longer does WikiProject tagging due to the huge controversy surrounding the issue and many complications that have arisen. ] does do WikiProject tagging though, so you can try contacting its owner, ]. Sorry —<span style="font: small-caps 14px times; color: red;">] (])</span> 12:01, 31 October 2006 (UTC) :Hi BlankVerse. Unfortunately, MetsBot no longer does WikiProject tagging due to the huge controversy surrounding the issue and many complications that have arisen. ] does do WikiProject tagging though, so you can try contacting its owner, ]. Sorry —<span style="font: small-caps 14px times; color: red;">] (])</span> 12:01, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

== Image:Grunion Tides CF&G 125%.jpg ==
Thanks for uploading ''']'''. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under ], but its use in Misplaced Pages articles fails our ] in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:

# Go to ] and edit it to add {{]}}, '''without deleting the original Replaceable fair use template'''.
# On ], write the reason why this image is not replaceable at all.

Alternatively, you can also choose to replace the fair use image by finding a freely licensed image of its subject or by taking a picture of it yourself.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified how these images fully satisfy our fair use criteria. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on <span class="plainlinks"></span>. Note that any fair use images which are replaceable by free-licensed alternatives will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on ]. If you have any questions please ask them at the ]. Thank you. --&ndash; ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 21:18, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

== Sena Cases ==

I have removed the {{tl|prod}} tag from ]]], which you proposed for deletion. I am leaving this message here to notify you about it. This article has already been through an AfD discussion (]), resulting in a '''keep''' decision. If you still feel the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{tl|prod}} template back to it. Instead, feel free to list the article at ]. Thanks! <!-- ] --> ~ ] 21:23, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

==Thanks for the Welcome==

Thanks for the welcom message and suggestions for Project:Southern California, it's hard to know where start sometimes with a large project. Let me know if there is anything else I can help out with or if there are any geology articles you would like me to take a look at. ––] 22:57, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

== Long beach racial/ethnic diversity ==
Diversity is diversity, yeah ethnic and racial are two separate meanings (and both carried a politically charged meaning). We should use the term "cultural and national" diversity, in order to be specific in the many origins of people in Long Beach. The 1975 World Book encyclopedia is where I got the ethnic/racial ancestry source, mind you. Yes, the information has changed in 30 years, but never forget that historical overview of Long Beach was a major port for immigration from around the world. +
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Mike_D_26"

Spanish are 0.5% in the 2000 census? I believe it's a misstatement and demographers should take note of the community had a history of Spanish and other immigration. I'm sure they meant European Spanish other than "Spanish-American", but in California the very meaning of "Spanish" is those colonial settlers in 1840's when the region belonged to Mexico (see Californio). The data came from the 1975 World Book encyclopedia, but didn't detail the percentage of Long Beach's population. It's obvious the L.A. area like Long Beach was the "Iowa of the sea" or "Iowa under palm trees" until the 1970s when Asian and Latin American immigration changed the older sections of Long Beach (you mentioned the Cambodian community, plenty of sources on that).+
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Long_Beach%2C_California"

== Re: Template:WikiProject California ==

You're welcome. I'm glad to help improve the state of the California Wikiprojects.

You might be interested in the generic WikiProject template I've been working on at ]. There are some demos at ] (they have commented out params that can be demonstrated with "Show preview" to prevent my sandbox from ending up in categories). It's an attempt to cover the (presumed) 90% of the Wikiprojects that want the extra functionality in their templates without having to maintain it themselves. ] 16:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)


I think you're right that the parameter should be "imageneeded"; I just made it "Imageneeded" because you asked me to copy it from {{tl|TrainsWikiProject}} and that's what they were using. In the course of looking into making a generic WikiProject template, I saw at least "imageneeded", "Imageneeded", and "imagesneeded". That inconsistency is one of my main motivations for wanting to make a single meta-template to handle the standard parameters. I think it makes it confusing for people working in multiple WikiProjects. I ended up making it "imageneeded" and "imagedetails" in the generic template.

I'm not sure whether a "logoneeded" parameter would be that much better than just using "imagedetails" with "imageneeded". It would allow articles with logos needed to go into a separate category from other images, but not much else. But that might be enough to justify it. On the other hand, the category naming is one of the harder parts to "generify", so adding more categories adds more potential for naming issues.

On the issue of the "attention" param, one of the good/bad things about MediaWiki's template handling is that parameters need to be passed along from the calling template to the meta-template; you can't just have them pass through automatically. On the one hand, this decreases the utility of the meta-template itself because the templates that use it need to pass through all params explicitly (meaning that project templates can't magically support new params). On the other hand, this means that the individual projects can control whether or not they "support" a parameter by leaving it out.

Lastly, I'm not sure what the "county" parameter would be used for, but it probably is too specific to a particular type of WikiProject to go into the generic template. These are the sorts of things that could possibly be a show-stopper, but I was able to handle some fairly tricky project-specific stuff with {{tlu|User:Mike Dillon/Sandbox/Military History}}, albeit not to the project coordinator's full satisfaction ;)

It's starting to look like I should make this thing a little more official so that we can begin collecting these discussions in one place... ] 17:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


I was just going to ask another question: what do you think the relationship should be between ] and ]? I see now that you made it a child category yesterday. I guess that works. ] 17:23, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


I reconstructed our conversation and an earlier one I had with ] at ]. I'll respond there later, but I don't have any more time for Misplaced Pages this morning. Briefly, the peer review issue was brought up in my conversation with Kirill. ] 16:16, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

== Annoying ==

It looks like {{user|68.162.229.98}} added most of the links. I agree that they appear worthless, but they are probably one of the few references available for Playboy models. (At least one link appears to have been used in good faith by another editor, ). Other than a bot there's no automated tool that can delete them. If they were the last edits then the "rollback" button would work, but these were mostly added months ago. Nonetheless, it's quick work to delete a link. -] · ] · 20:03, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

:Here's another editor adding links, last year.. I don't think the link was added by a single spammer, rather by various editors who couldn't find better sources. -] · ] · 20:12, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

:I've also left a note on ]. -] · ] · 20:16, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

== Userpage ==

Thanks for the help, I didn't know that something like that would happen. Thanks again. I appreciate it. ] 19:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

== Problems ==

I'll look into the rest later, but the data-changing vandalism made me think of the Reseda vandal, who'd make edits like the ones reverted here:. I'd noticed him or her branching out to other areas. Maybe this is the same editor. -] · ] · 12:04, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

:Incidentally, you'll be happy to know that a new capability has been added that may help clearing away future spam links: "undo". See . Granted, it's only slightly easier but every little bit helps. -] · ] · 22:00, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

::Thanks for catching that, I should have been more diligent. I've blocked the account again, this time for two months. That'll take us to late January. -] · ] · 07:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
::And yes, it's a sound practice to revert changes to demographic data unless accompanied by an explanation or a source. We shouldn't see many legitimate changes until after the 2010 census. -] · ] · 07:39, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

== Long Beach, California photo ==

Very interesting, I completely believe you: some of the photos --and I've uploaded over a hundred from that site-- have had borderline date-tags that, because I don't know Long Beach like I know Los Angeles/Pasadena/Santa Monica, I've made a "hope for the best" assumption on the date. So what do you think should be done? While striking the photo is an option, I think there's also a possible argument for Fair Use since such a photo is unlikely to be possible again --at the same time, while I've been plundering the LA Library's (LAPL) website I've been trying to stay away from any Fair Use because I don't want them to feel antagonized (and possibly take down their amazing database) --I'm only uploading photos that are completely in the PD. Do you think this one should just be axed until a scan from a book or something not from the LAPL website becomes available? I'd like to hear your thoughts. --] 18:49, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
:Funny coincidence: I actually read that article on one of my trips back to Los Angeles. It reminded me the site existed. I'd perused it many years ago but had forgotten about it, but then realized it was a great source for here from that article. I'll definitely have to start looking at the LOC site because I've started running out of usable stuff at the LAPL website. That comment by the LOC on copyright renewal should be accurate --or most certainly accurate enough to legally rely on without serious concern (i.e. it would absolve Misplaced Pages of any problems if it ended up being false; we could reasonably rely on the opinion of the LOC on what it states are the CP status of its photos). Thanks for the information. --] 17:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

== FA nomination for ] article ==

The ] article has been nominated for ] status. If you would like to comment on this nomination, please go ] to leave your comment. To leave a comment on that page, click the <nowiki></nowiki> link to the right of the title '''California Gold Rush'''.] 21:11, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your valuable assistance on this article, which was very important in its achieving FA status. Thank you! ] 15:04, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


== Category:California-related lists == == Category:California-related lists ==
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Thanks for the tip! ] 17:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC) Thanks for the tip! ] 17:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
:I finally started looking at categories and realized they are abused and misunderstood. So I don't mind poking around especially since they ''usually'' fall in the same section as "External links", another area that needs lots of help. ] 17:50, 3 December 2006 (UTC) :I finally started looking at categories and realized they are abused and misunderstood. So I don't mind poking around especially since they ''usually'' fall in the same section as "External links", another area that needs lots of help. ] 17:50, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

==California Gold Rush FAC==

Thanks for your continuing support! Actually, the Levi Strauss material is already in the article as footnote #59, because, although Strauss himself arrived in San Francisco in the 1850s, the famous blue jeans (and the modern company) didn't come into existence until the 1870s - beyond the end of the Gold Rush. Other bits of the mythology (aka the "California Dream"), are discussed at some length. Is there something additional you're thinking of? I'll be glad to add it. Again, many thanks! ] 18:16, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

== ] FAC map ==

Following up on the suggestion to include a map in the ] article, two maps are available. If you do get a chance to go to ], both maps are posted there for your review, and any comment you might have would be appreciated! ] 07:55, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

== Anon users ==

] has remarked occasionally that he supports allowing unregistered users to edit because those with the strongest POV will be most likely to jump through hoops to be able to further their position while the more average NPOV person is less committed and less likely to register. Though it isn't immediately apparent, it makes sense on reflection and the case you mentioned proves it once again. -] · ] · 09:20, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

== Cal. Rep. - thx. ==

thanks-my goof. ] 16:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

==Request for help==
An unregistered editor from a single static IP address is repeatedly trying to remove a section called "reputation" in the article about the ]. I've tried to reason with him/her on ] (see "Let's Talk") but s/he doesn't seem to want to respond. He has also posted some nonsensical things on my own talk page in response to my reversions, in which s/he claims ownership of the article. Could you try talking to him/her? I'm really not sure how to handle this. Thanks. //<font color="0033bb"> Josh</font><font color="001166"><em>Kagan</em> </font> <sup>] | ]</sup> 22:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
:I got the message. Thanks; I will respect your decision. //<font color="0033bb"> Josh</font><font color="001166"><em>Kagan</em> </font> <sup>] | ]</sup> 20:15, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
::I read your comments on the article's talk page. I'm sorry that you feel I turned "unreasonable;" my adding of the information a '''second''' time was a good faith mistake; if you read ] you will see that I actually suggested exactly the change he made before he made it. I regret any misunderstanding. As for your comments on the article itself, I think that most of your comments are right-on; however, I agree with Jreferee's post that the most important problem with the article right now is the lack of citations. For this reason, I'm going to focus my writing attentions on some other articles for a little while and let some fresh new voices contribute to the Southwestern article. If I do make any contributions to the SUSL article in the near future, they will likely be limited to citations and small clarifications. Thanks again for taking the time to look into this article; I hope in the future that I can prove to you (and to the rest of Misplaced Pages) that I'm not "unreasonable," just a new guy concerned about NPOV who made an editing mistake. //<font color="0033bb"> Josh</font><font color="001166"><em>Kagan</em> </font> <sup>] | ]</sup>


==Topics in LAHCM (city)== ==Topics in LAHCM (city)==
Hi. Inspired by ], I created a page ]. Hope you find it valuable. -- ] 13:53, 13 December 2006 (UTC) Hi. Inspired by ], I created a page ]. Hope you find it valuable. -- ] 13:53, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

== My welcome ==

Thank you very much for the welcome! I appreciated it very much. ] 17:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
:Hi. I'm an old (''chuckle'') computer programmer (66 is the year I was born!) Thanks for the sig ideas too. ]'']'' ''']''' 16:03, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

== ] ==

Madero's supposed collegues tricked him, then held him hostage, and murdered him, his brother and his vice president (Gustavo Madero had his eye poked out and was beaten to death in broad daylight). I think "piranhas" is a pretty apt description of people who would do things like that, don't you? ] 17:06, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I suppose (in the context of that sentence) I could call them "] bureaucrats" rather than piranhas, and not lose the meaning of the sentence. ] 01:14, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

== ]logy ==

There is no scientific discipline of "Burritology", the mock seriousness is part of the joke. Some of the lines I put is are paraphrases of lines from ], besides, everyone knows ] is a party burrito school ;-) (Caltech is noted for its creative pranks and rivalry with ]). I think I do make a valid point that some of the parts of the article regarding the history of this food (such as ]) are a bit California-centric, in the past, there have been claims inserted into the article that burritos were ''invented'' in California, which is a pretty dubious claim. ] 01:14, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

== ==

Please stop erasing red links off the page, they may be small persons/groups, but it is a fact as a band

thank you] 02:19, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

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{{Welcome}} -gadfium 21:03, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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Grapes

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--Spangineer (háblame) July 9, 2005 14:03 (UTC)

The photo was the September 13 Picture of the Day.

SoCal WikiProject

I've made a list of the children of Category:California

Just to let you know, I've created a list of the child categories of Category:California, at: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject California/categories. Let me know what you think of it. JesseW 00:29, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

About rotating the photo of the New Otani...

Hello:

Rotating the photo is fine. I wish I had a higher quality original but unfortunately, my digital camera at the time was a real piece of junk (I have a better one now, as you may have noticed from my recent uploads). --Coolcaesar 17:31, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Template:PD-CAGov

Sourcing is not the issue, but licensing is, which is why I redirected to {{no license}} (instead of {{no source}}). But the real point is that this issue cannot be satisfactorily resolved on TfD at all. There is an underlying legal queation that can perhaps only be resolved through research and/or by consulting legal experts. I've sent a request to the Juriwiki-l mailing list, because this sort of issue has come up before and will come up again, and we don't have a good way of resolving it. Debating the license templates on TfD doesn't really address the fundamental problem, and in fact no amount of debate will, since the issue is not internal to Misplaced Pages.

I don't know whether SPUI's argument is ultimately convincing. However, it casts enough doubt on the PD claim that it should prompt us to investigate the situation and adopt a cautious attitude while it is being resolved. The redirect is intended as a temporary compromise: it signals that we're aware of the issue, and if it's confirmed that the template was indeed essentially correct, it can be easily reverted.

In general TfD isn't the right venue for this sort of discussion. I don't know if there currently is a proper place for a focussed discussion of licensing and copyright issues, but it's clear that TfD is not it. We may need to find/create another forum where these things can be discussed at a general level. In this case, someone needs to do the work of a lawyer or paralegal to find out details about the California situation. If a determination is made, perhaps even by the Foundation and/or Jimbo, that certain images cannot be used, then obviously the license templates can be deleted without going through TfD. In any case, what is needed is more research, expert advice, etc., not more debate on TfD. Until we have a good way of doing this properly, we have to be cautious, hence the present solution. --MarkSweep (call me collect) 07:42, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

  • I was just leaving and this caught my eye. Do you guys know user:BDAbrahamson ? I just confered with him on a copyright issue as he's a FL. based lawyer/admin that does a lot of legal work for the foundation. Right now he want's email posts, but he got back to me promptly, and also dropped in on the RFC below. May help! Can't hurt. FrankB 05:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Southern California WikiProject

It is interesting that one of the side-effects of MetsBot's tagging of all the California articles with the {{WikiProject California}} template has been an increase in membership in the California WikiProject.

I was wondering if you could do the same thing for the Southern California WikiProject. It'd be a little more complicated than just tagging every article that has a category that has category:California as a parent. The only way that I can see doing it would be to go to Category:California counties, and go to each of the subcategories for the counties in Southern California (which are listed at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Southern California#Scope).

Question: Is MetsBot intelligent enough to copy over any of the imporatance ratings in any existing California Wikiproject template with ratings (e.g. {{WikiProject California|class=B|importance=High}}) to the {{WikiProject Southern California}} template? 11:36, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi BlankVerse. Unfortunately, MetsBot no longer does WikiProject tagging due to the huge controversy surrounding the issue and many complications that have arisen. BetacommandBot does do WikiProject tagging though, so you can try contacting its owner, Betacommand. Sorry —Mets501 (talk) 12:01, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Category:California-related lists

Thanks for the tip! Schmiteye 17:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I finally started looking at categories and realized they are abused and misunderstood. So I don't mind poking around especially since they usually fall in the same section as "External links", another area that needs lots of help. Schmiteye 17:50, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Topics in LAHCM (city)

Hi. Inspired by User:Jengod/Topics in LAAZ, I created a page Topics in LAHCM (city). Hope you find it valuable. -- Jreferee 13:53, 13 December 2006 (UTC)