Revision as of 12:56, 18 December 2006

I'd like to say "Good bye" in over 450 languages. Misplaced Pages became unworkable for me and I do not want to be a part of it any longer so long as users like Moby Dick are allowed to continue to bother me. Deletionists can burn in hell too.

In the light of comments here, there is no reason for me to stay here. All the good things...

User:Cool Cat/Talk Template This user is no longer active on wikipedia. You may reach him at Commons:User talk:Cool Cat --Cat out 15:10, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Posts: 23:33, 23 December 2024 UTC

RfC

If you're going to file one you might want to read the instructions. —Doug Bell  09:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Can you be a bit more spesific? --Cat out 09:46, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

A comment...

Don't go: you've been a positive contributor for a long time, and it would be sad to see you go! --SunStar Net 00:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Unblocked

I've unblocked you. Please chill, Cat Out. Bishonen | talk 01:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC).

Cool Cat. This ain't cool man. If the problem is this than you just need a 24h break. Just forget about the issue and let it go. -- Szvest 12:37, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

"I am saddened to see you leave. I never noticed you before as you are too fast of an anti vandal person. I sincerely encourage you to come back. I hope this is a temprorary wiki-vacation." --Cool Cat 15:39, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Sorry to see you leave

Sorry to see you leave, we have never came into contact with each other but I have noticed your supreme bad luck with RFA's and if you were too have another i'd have voted Support

†he Bread 09:15, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

regarding Moby Dick

Just in case you decide not to leave, it would be best not to attract people trolling you by not mentioning old matters in your edits. My case for blocking him, although justifiable, remains arguable by his friends, which is part of the reason I only blocked him for a week and not the full month allowed by the Arbcom Case. Bastiq▼e 19:18, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Houston, we have a problem

Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Civility was clearly ridiculous. What's going on here? Friday (talk) 08:27, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Do you want a long or short answer? --Cat out 08:36, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I imagine it's complicated- please explain as much as you wish. I see no reason for a block tho- do you? If you can work things out without further disruption, I think minimal harm has been done. Friday (talk) 08:37, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

My intention is not disruption, on the contrary. I just do not see a workable way to point out a fundamental flaw with our community.

It actually isn't very complicated. Like the Kelly Martin section on your talk page, incivility has started to even come from our exemplary contributors (such as Kelly Martin). Incivility has became a norm and civil people are almost punished for it.

An example is Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Elaragirl. Not only were people disagreeing with me (I am not pissed that people disagreeing with me), their defense was counter accusations for things I have done over a year ago and people "endorsed" that.

This isn't just about the RfC but a much more serious problem with wikipedia-wide implications. I do not know where to "discuss" it. I am actualy hesitant to even discuss it because of the number of trolls I am dealing with.

--Cat out 08:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm all ears when it comes to people kicking around ideas about how to deal with systemic problems. Discussion by itself is rarely harmful- if you're not sure where it belongs, start here on your talk page and once the idea is more developed, post it somewhere else too. I personally keep a scratchpad of half-developed ideas- that might work too. I agree with you on incivility being a widespread problem- I myself was needlessly rude a few times recently and I'm sure this did not improve my ability to communicate. However I think most reasonable editors realize we're all just human. If we make a mistake, we can always say "oops, I messed up" and try to do better next time. I hope not too many people would hold this against us. Friday (talk) 09:00, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

More than one incivility per month makes Wikipe-tan cry. The problem is some people make a habit of it which just depresses Wikipe-tan.

Another reason why we have so much incivility is that several editors (such as myself) are kept on the edge all the time by various trolls. On private discussion people can easily identify trolling but very rarely do they ever react to it when it is staring at them in the face publicaly.

The strategy is to bore off the trolls which is not a working one, wikipedia is too popular for that. Once a troll finally goes away, a new one or ten comes in its place. Its a never ending circle that needs to be disrupted. There are two types of trolls, content trolls and forking trolls. And I am not even referencing to content trolls, those are a different story.

I think there are multiple aspects to the problem. What do you think?

--Cat out 09:51, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

It's an ongoing struggle. If there was an easy answer, we'd already know it by now. I've seen the same thing you've seen- the more people are in a position to deal with such troublemakers, the more they tend to see people as troublemakers. I've seen respected editors accused of trolling by other respected editors. All I can recommend is that we keep an eye on ourselves and each other, and if someone needs to take a break, they should do so. Friday (talk) 18:10, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Um... There can be an easy answer.

User:MONGO seems to be also leaving. While I have no clue about the details of his case, I know that we value trolls above anything else on wikipedia. Trolls are treated like archangels. Blocking trolls is like a deadly sin instead of being a common practice. Trolling seems to be "hard to prove" even if it is common knowledge.

The main problem is not "good" contributors that turned "bad" but "bad" contributors who were always "bad".

--Cat out 19:51, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Please don't be disruptive

Policy pages cannot be deleted through nomination on WP:MFD as you did with Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Civility. Please stop being disruptive. —Doug Bell  10:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Please... --Cat out 10:25, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Please what? —Doug Bell  10:27, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Look, I even said please. Please do not lecture me... Do not even talk to me. I do not like you (plural) and wish to never hear from you (plural) again. --Cat out 10:34, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't even know you. I'm simply asking you not to be disruptive. Also, I reverted your last edit to my talk page where you deleted my comment. Please don't delete my comments from my talk page. —Doug Bell  10:42, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I was merely trying to remove a duplicate post I made which you reverted like vandalism... Feel free to block me for it though.

And I am simply asking you to leave me alone.

--Cat out 11:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

The edit of mine which you deleted was requesting you not to cross post your replies to my talk page. You not only ignored the request by cross posting, but you also deleted the request. By reverting your edit I didn't remove any post of yours, merely the cross post, so I don't see what the problem is with my reverting it. —Doug Bell  11:18, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I am not going to bother arguing since I do not care. --Cat out 11:24, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Cool Cat/Wikistress status

Resemiprotect that. You are borderlining WP:HA since your edit came right after mine. --Cat out 12:39, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Huh? Harrassment? Removing the protection is not intended to annoy you in the slightest, and I'm sorry if it did. The purpose of semiprotection is to protect pages from disruptive edits. It isn't intended to be permanent. If your wikistress user subpage comes under attack from vandals it can always be reprotected. I don't believe there is any basis for protecting it, so I set it back to the default that all pages not requiring protection should have. It's been semiprotected for four months, so presumeably the reasons behind protecting it are gone and the semi-protection can be removed. Please don't take this as anything done to annoy you as that is not the intent at all. —Doug Bell  12:47, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I really dislike seeing such edits a minute and 39 seconds after mine (especially because of my interaction with moby dick (aka Davenbelle) such stuff really irks me). I'll call this one a coincidence.

That page should be permanently semiprotected. It is my userspace, not an article. I cannot think of a reason why an anon or a new user should be able to edit my stress meter. If they really desire a change, they can mention it on my talk page.

--Cat out 12:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Querry

Hey. How are things? El_C 13:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

The short answer is: um.. bad. The long answer is: BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD! (parodying Jon Stewart) :)

Seriously though I feel like the horde is after me... It is like a stampede...

There was a 'delete happy' group of people who were trying to delete the Star Trek articles which was quite stressful. There was one casuality. That seems to have settled... I am a deletionist myself but I do not create pages like this. I do not make a big deal of it. I dared to complain about their incivility and that went... interesting...

I have a number of trolls lurking on ANB/I attacking me and et all. They practically are accusing that Bastique is my pet Pokemon or something. :P

Toolserv is down so commons is a drag... Don't want to delete anything w/o toolserv there.

Basicaly... Too many trolls... Lots of injustice... :(

How are you?

--Cat out 15:45, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Chill out

You're letting a few trolls take advantage of your ordinarily reactionary nature. You need to take some time off en.wp for a while before you do something more to jeapordize your own interests here. Bastiq▼e 17:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Acknowledged. --Cat out 17:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: The Graphic Designer's Barnstar

Hajimemashite! Graphic Designer's Barnstar wa domo arigato gozaimasu! Jecowa 07:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Help!

See: Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard#Death_Threat_Accusation. The same group from the Star Trek AfDs are at it again. -Husnock 14:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

What was it the Horta said? "The murderers have won?" LoL! Just kidding. Situation appears resolved. -Husnock 17:11, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Unblock

This blocked user (block log | autoblocks | unblock | contribs) asked to be unblocked, but one or more administrators has reviewed and declined this request. Other administrators can also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy). This unblock request continues to be visible. Do not replace this message with another unblock request.

Request reason: "Please unblock me (so I can deal with this nonsense) or close Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Starfleet alternate ranks and insignia (2nd nomination). There was already a recent afd: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Starfleet alternate ranks and insignia and inconclusive deletion review: Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Log/2006 December 5 (16 overturn - 14 endorse ~ 53.555%) --Cat out 20:30, 14 December 2006 (UTC)"

Decline reason: "No reasonable reason to unblock given. -- Renesis (talk) 21:46, 14 December 2006 (UTC)"

Hello from Camel Commodore!

Camel Commodore greets you. You seem to know a lot about Star Trek and Camel Commodore would like to help. Let Camel Commodore know what he can do to help, and with which articles. Let's all call everyone to "Misplaced Pages Battlestations!" if you know what Camel Commodore means. -CamelCommodore 12:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Yo,

You can talk in first person. :)

Starfleet alternate ranks and insignia needs a lot of work. Feel free to contribute. :)

--Cat out 12:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)