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::So, now we're not allowed to link to anything at YouTube, period? Is that it? Please confirm, but if so, I find that rather harsh. After all, it's not likely that people like Mr. Coritz will be streaming such video material themselves any time soon, since the bandwidth requirements are obviously prohibitive. --] 16:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC) ::So, now we're not allowed to link to anything at YouTube, period? Is that it? Please confirm, but if so, I find that rather harsh. After all, it's not likely that people like Mr. Coritz will be streaming such video material themselves any time soon, since the bandwidth requirements are obviously prohibitive. --] 16:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC)


:::In case the video's copyrights are exclusively owned by YouTube, no &ndash; you cannot link to the site. &mdash; ]<span class="plainlinks"> </span> 16:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC) :::Unless the video's copyrights are exclusively owned by YouTube, no &ndash; you cannot link to the site. &mdash; ]<span class="plainlinks"> </span> 16:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)


== YouTube link removals == == YouTube link removals ==

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I prefer to keep discussions unfragmented.
  • If I post on your talk page, I will notice any replies posted there.
  • Unless you request otherwise, I will reply here to comments made here.
  • I will usually post a brief note on your talk page to let you know that I have replied, unless your talk page instructs me otherwise.
  • If you write a reply to me here, I may decide to move your text back to your talk page in an effort to keep the thread in one place.
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  • Such pointers are useful if you've written to a comment I made many days ago.
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User talk:Jimbo Wales unprotection

Would you object to this page being un-semi-protected? --Sam Blanning 02:53, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Ofcourse not. — Nearly Headless Nick 11:38, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
. — Nearly Headless Nick 11:44, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Cheers. --Sam Blanning 22:11, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Strange deletion

On what grounds did you delete Pingus? The deletion debate certainly shows no consensus for deletion. The game is notable and has been mentioned in several high profile publications, including even CNN .--Eloquence* 00:04, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I apologise for the inconvenience. I have undeleted the article. — Nearly Headless Nick 11:34, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Thank you! :-) --Eloquence*
Relevant links to discussions – , . — Nearly Headless Nick 09:11, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for voting

File:In-the-dark.jpg Thank you for voting in my RfA which at 51/20/6 unfortunately did not achieve consensus. In closing the nomination, Essjay remarked that it was one of the better discussed RfAs seen recently and I would like to thank you and all others who chose to vote for making it as such. It was extremely humbling to see the large number of support votes, and the number of oppose votes and comments will help me to become stronger. I hope to run again for adminship soon. Thank you all once more. Wikiwoohoo 19:48, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi, Thanks for removing the protection on the India page! This, as you well know, is a mixed blessing. :) ]] 16:35, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Concordia Newsletter

NEWSLETTER

Concordia is currently trying to relaunch. I, and all the members of the ex-council, wish to welcome new members to the group. We are a group who aim to promote remaining civil, in an environment where messages can easily be interpretated wrongly.

Help out now!

  • Try and help people remain civil! Talk to them, and help them in any way possible. Do not be afraid to use the talk page.
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We are a community, so can only work though community contributions and support. It's the helping that counts.

Decision Making

The council expired one month ago, but due to the current position of the group the current council will remain until the position of the group can be assessed, and whether it would be sensible to keep Concordia going. For most decisions, however, it will be decided by all who choose to partake in discussions. I am trying to relaunch because of the vast amounts of new members we have received, demonstrating that the aims are supported.

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- Ian¹³/t 20:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC). Kindly delivered by MiszaBot.

Re WP:SIG

Hello. Could you kindly review the above-mentioned guideline and remove the image from your signature? Best wishes. — Nearly Headless Nick 15:12, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the note Sir Nicholas. Done. Cheers -- Szvest - 17:18, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Lot of grammar-nazis on Misplaced Pages! What say? ^_^ Nearly Headless Nick 13:18, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Lol! Well, it doesn't matter to me. On my userpage I got big red heading which says correct me if I am wrong. -- Szvest - 15:31, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks again :) -- Szvest - 14:39, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Pinguis DRV

When you take action on a DRV discussion, you can simply close it, no reason to keep it open. ~ trialsanderrors 23:28, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

User talk:Dakshayani

This user's ben asking for unblock for over a day now; could you respond to him? Thanks. Part Deux 20:13, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

OK. I just put him out of his misery – . — Nearly Headless Nick 12:59, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I sure did, and called you the name that Samir once used, though I refrained from typing it down :-) Tintin (talk) 11:25, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

lol! :-)--thunderboltz 11:37, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Thank you for pointing that you.

I will surely keep that in mind the next time I edit wikipedia

Regards

naxalrevolution

You're welcome. — Nearly Headless Nick 10:57, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

Hi Nick, Just letting you know that I replied on my talk page. You can remove this notice now if you like.

81.104.210.31 11:12, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

I surely won't. I think I have a fetish for n00b messages. Oh wait, or was that b00bs?Nearly Headless Nick 11:30, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

maybe it was n00b massages ;) 81.104.210.31 11:39, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Barrington Hall

Please do not delete sections of text or valid links from Misplaced Pages articles, as you did to Barrington Hall. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. See the discussion on the Talk:Barrington Hall page - you are incorrectly interpreting the policy. Argyriou (talk) 15:54, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Kindly review the concerned guideline and revert yourself. Also your warning, to a edit made in good faith came as unwarranted. — Nearly Headless Nick 16:04, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Also, the YouTube links are not reliable sources as any person with an internet connection can upload any kind of file over their website. Many of the vidoes uploaded are copyrighted by their respective owners and links to those should not be used on Misplaced Pages. — Nearly Headless Nick 16:08, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Read the discussion on Talk:Barrington Hall and ]. There is no consensus that it is against policy to link to YouTube videos which are not clearly infringing copyright. That particular video clip is claimed to be allowed to be posted on YouTube, and nobody has offered any evidence that the clip exists on YouTube in violation of copyright. Deletion of a link which does not knowingly violate copyright, which has been discussed at grat length on the talk page, is not a good-faith edit. Neither is wholesale removal of links to YouTube throughout Misplaced Pages. Argyriou (talk) 16:24, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
What exactly are you talking about? We do not need consensus on Talk:Barrington Hall for deciding if we need to keep YouTube video links on this website. Speaking of WT:EL, the guideline clearly states
  • Any site that misleads the reader by use of factually inaccurate material or unverifiable research. See Reliable sources.
  • Links to blogs and personal web pages, except those written by a recognized authority. – YouTube is not an authority, there is not reliability as anyone can upload new videos, including copyrighted ones. Facilitation of copyright violations is not a choice with Misplaced Pages. Either link it to the website retaining the copyrights over the video or remove the link to YouTube.
Kindly get yourself familiar with Misplaced Pages's guidelines of reliable sources and external links and revert yourself. Regards, — Nearly Headless Nick 16:32, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Have you even looked at the videos you delink? In the Barrington Hall case, the video is not some talking head talking about Barrington Hall, it's a video of the actual building; it is by its very nature, a reliable source. The restriction on personal websites, besides being controversial (see the WP:EL talk) is also a guideline to the potential reliability of a link. The guideline is titled "Links normally to be avoided". It does not read "Links always to be avoided". The guideline assumes (not entirely justifiably) that in the "normal" case, most personal web pages are not reliable sources, but it does not ban such links.
If you were removing video links after having examined them, and tagging them as copyright violations or irrelevant to the article, or such, you'd be doing useful work. But if you're just going through articles and automatically removing all YouTube links without checking them, you're vandalising Misplaced Pages. Please stop. Argyriou (talk) 16:47, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Bitis arietans YouTube link removal

Hi Nick, I noticed you recently removed a YouTube link from the Bitis arietans article. Most of the YouTube links were removed from this series of articles a while ago because they lacked copyright information, but the one you removed does have copyright information. It's at the end of the video and says "© Al Coritz 2006, Deadly Beautiful Zoological, LLC." Did you accidentally not notice this, or is this copyright information not good enough? If not, what's missing? --Jwinius 16:03, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

YouTube links are not reliable as any person with an internet connection can upload a file on their website. Moreover, many of these videos are copyrighted by their respective creators and links to those should not be used on Misplaced Pages, as this constitutes direct faciliation of copyright violations. Regards, — Nearly Headless Nick 16:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
So, now we're not allowed to link to anything at YouTube, period? Is that it? Please confirm, but if so, I find that rather harsh. After all, it's not likely that people like Mr. Coritz will be streaming such video material themselves any time soon, since the bandwidth requirements are obviously prohibitive. --Jwinius 16:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Unless the video's copyrights are exclusively owned by YouTube, no – you cannot link to the site. — Nearly Headless Nick 16:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

YouTube link removals

You link to in your edit summaries, but I don't see anything like "Sites which fail to provide licensing information" in the criteria. Am I missing something? TransUtopian 16:20, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Any site that misleads the reader by use of factually inaccurate material or unverifiable research. See Reliable sources and Links to blogs and personal web pages, except those written by a recognized authority. YouTube is not a recognised authority, as I have reiterated above, anyone with an internet connection can upload a video file to their website. Many of these videos are copyrighted by their respective creators and links to those should not be used on Misplaced Pages, as this constitutes direct faciliation of copyright violations. — Nearly Headless Nick 16:25, 18 December 2006 (UTC)