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| Incredibly minor point but is the talk quote template necessary in the Locus of Dispute section? I get that the text was inserted later but I don't think that's important now and it looks a little odd.-- ] (]) 12:40, 13 April 2020 (UTC) | Incredibly minor point but is the talk quote template necessary in the Locus of Dispute section? I get that the text was inserted later but I don't think that's important now and it looks a little odd.-- ] (]) 12:40, 13 April 2020 (UTC) | ||
| :Fixed, thank you. –]] 14:38, 13 April 2020 (UTC) | :Fixed, thank you. –]] 14:38, 13 April 2020 (UTC) | ||
| ==One of the elephants in the room== | |||
| Jytdog's off-wiki harassment of another editor, as the evidence shows, was the culmination of ''years'' of abusive behavior, including edit-warring, rudeness, bullying, intimidation, gaming the rules, and personalizing disputes. Yet, although sanctioned a few times, his behavior was never effectively corrected by any previous administrative intervention. Why isn't the ArbCom addressing the fact that the Jytdog episode was a colossal failure by WP's administrative culture and system? | |||
| Jytdog probably has driven away more potentially productive editors than any other editor in WP's history. Isn't ArbCom supposed to provide leadership over WP's administrative system? So, what is ArbCom doing to provide further instruction, guidance, and remedies to WP's active administrators to make sure that any other editor currently active who is acting like Jytdog is being corrected? Also, what about the evidence that was presented that Jytdog's behavior was tolerated because he was helping defend certain "holy" topics like medicine and healthcare, and science? What is ArbCom doing about that? | |||
| If you don't think there are other, established editors in Misplaced Pages currently acting like "lessor" Jytdogs and being protected by WP's administrators then you've got your head buried in the sand. Before you respond, I know that your response will be, "If you are aware of anyone violating WP's rules and policies, such as mentioned in the findings of this case, please report it, with diffs, to the ArbCom request page." Yes, of course, it would be way too much to ask the administrators who are already aware of the ongoing behavior (and they know who they are) to go ahead and intervene, I guess since they don't need to be afraid of being accused of failing to act. ] (]) 18:54, 16 April 2020 (UTC) | |||
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Incredibly minor point but is the talk quote template necessary in the Locus of Dispute section? I get that the text was inserted later but I don't think that's important now and it looks a little odd.-- P-K3 (talk) 12:40, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- Fixed, thank you. –xeno 14:38, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
One of the elephants in the room
Jytdog's off-wiki harassment of another editor, as the evidence shows, was the culmination of years of abusive behavior, including edit-warring, rudeness, bullying, intimidation, gaming the rules, and personalizing disputes. Yet, although sanctioned a few times, his behavior was never effectively corrected by any previous administrative intervention. Why isn't the ArbCom addressing the fact that the Jytdog episode was a colossal failure by WP's administrative culture and system?
Jytdog probably has driven away more potentially productive editors than any other editor in WP's history. Isn't ArbCom supposed to provide leadership over WP's administrative system? So, what is ArbCom doing to provide further instruction, guidance, and remedies to WP's active administrators to make sure that any other editor currently active who is acting like Jytdog is being corrected? Also, what about the evidence that was presented that Jytdog's behavior was tolerated because he was helping defend certain "holy" topics like medicine and healthcare, and science? What is ArbCom doing about that?
If you don't think there are other, established editors in Misplaced Pages currently acting like "lessor" Jytdogs and being protected by WP's administrators then you've got your head buried in the sand. Before you respond, I know that your response will be, "If you are aware of anyone violating WP's rules and policies, such as mentioned in the findings of this case, please report it, with diffs, to the ArbCom request page." Yes, of course, it would be way too much to ask the administrators who are already aware of the ongoing behavior (and they know who they are) to go ahead and intervene, I guess since they don't need to be afraid of being accused of failing to act. SomeEditorsAreMoreEqual (talk) 18:54, 16 April 2020 (UTC)