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Revision as of 21:14, 19 December 2006

The image in the template

Not sure what "burn all gifs" means, but the image was improved over the orignal. The topography one you suggested, Dab, sits in a big blue square and isn't transparent. The present one looks well next to the Northern Ireland template. Evertype 16:41, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

http://burnallgifs.org/archives/ was a fad when it looked like Unisys was going to try to enforce their patent on the GIF algorithm. It led (partially) the greater inclusion of PNGs as an alternative, but the new thing is to convert non-photographic images to SVG where appropriate. I think I can do that pretty easily for this GIF, if the project would find a scalable version more useful... -- nae'blis 18:00, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

If you like. The NI one is an SVG I think. Evertype 18:06, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Try this one, if you like:

It's a little darker, but I pulled the green from the official Flag of Ireland color. -- nae'blis 03:42, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

NIce, but the one we have is the same colour as the N.I. one, and they often appear on the same page. -- Evertype·✆ 14:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Volunteers

I'd like to help. I'm still a wiki novice, but I'm a competent writer and copyeditor. Dppowell 18:04, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Welcome! Help however you'd like! -- Evertype·✆ 14:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Template

Should we more or les copy this? Template:WPNI Pauric 18:20, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Eeeek! No, heavens, no. See Talk:Ogham for more. -- Evertype·✆

Ah, gas. So... is Template:Irelandproj what Template:WPI should be? If so, why isn't it as such? If not... why isn't it as such? :P Pauric 18:42, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I guess it could be WPI, but Irelandproj is easier to remember. Or? I don't mind, but I wouldn't be interested in doing the cleanup after such a change. -- Evertype·✆ 14:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Manual of style

Is it intended that the project's style manual will differ significantly from Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (Ireland-related articles)? Dppowell 22:21, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

How so? -- Evertype·✆ 14:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I thought that the creation of a style manual for this project was one of the goals; I saw that an Ireland related style manual already existed, and wondered whether we would adopt that, modify it or do something entirely separate. Dppowell 18:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Against a new manual of style; just integrate the one that exists. Djegan 20:54, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

ICOTW

A template on the ICOTW page says it's inactive and only kept for historical interest, yet it's front and center on the WikiProject Ireland page. Should we remove the inactive tag? Dppowell 16:52, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Is ICOTW active? Or is it superceded in some way by WikiProject Ireland? -- Evertype·✆ 14:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, that was more or less my question, since we've got the banner at the top of the project page. :) Dppowell 18:46, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Saint Patrick's Flag

I've added this to the Ireland project, as its sister article Flag of Scotland is listed in the Scotland project. A goal would be to get the articles of Saint Patrick's Flag and the Flag of Scotland to look somewhat similar in format. --Dulcimerist 02:12, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Good idea. We need to get an image for the Lighthouses, too, since the one we had is apparently deleted. -- Evertype·✆ 17:50, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

What lighthouses? I have done some work on Lighthouses in Ireland and some of the individual articles. ww2censor 05:59, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Mary I of England

Mary I of England is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy (Talk) 02:05, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

History of Ireland

I'd like to nominate the goal of getting History of Ireland up to "good article" status as a prelude to a nomination for Featured Article. Dppowell 18:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 17:15, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Update: Box for Project Members, Memberlist

This user is a participant in WikiProject Ireland.

I made this box based on the one for Wikiproject Scotland. I used the project page graphic, but it would be nice if we had one that looked a bit smoother. I'll see if I can find one. P.S. I think this one looks better. --Kathryn NicDhàna 22:37, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm also going to see about setting up a sub-page for the Project Members List, so the box can link to that. As it is, our userpages are listed as part of the Project, which is not ideal. --Kathryn NicDhàna 01:33, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

OK, that seems to have worked. I notice some other project pages have participants listed on both the main page and the sub-page. If we do that, is there some way it can be set up that signing on one list puts someone on both?

Categories

Working on these, but may be in a bit over my head as I seem to be making a lot of mistakes. --Kathryn NicDhàna 02:06, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Ballybeg, County Waterford

Another editor has applied a {{prod}} tag to Ballybeg, County Waterford. Please take a look at the article and improve it if possible. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 14:32, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure it shouldn't be deleted, to be honest. It seems to have been created exclusively for the purpose of being offensive, and even if that were not the case, do housing developments really need their own articles? I vote no, unless there's something unique about them.Dppowell 04:09, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Celtic Tiger

Celtic Tiger is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy (Talk) 17:07, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Norman Conquest of ireland

I've just looked around for a history of the Norman Conquest of Ireland / Norman Invasion of Ireland. There is an article on Norman Ireland and a rough list of Norman officers for the Invasion under the article, Norman Invasion of Ireland, but no actual history of the even itself.

Has this been mentioned before? Anybody able to help begin a more proper article on the Invasion? Comments? --sony-youth 18:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

There's some limited treatment of the topic in History of Ireland, but feel free to expand upon or rewrite the existing invasion article. Dppowell 18:39, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay ... I've hobbled something together, mainly form the Norman Ireland article, but at least it forms a basis for future development. Will look into researching more. --sony-youth 13:49, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

James Joyce

James Joyce is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy (Talk) 21:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

James II of England

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Order of St. Patrick

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Reconciling Ireland and British Isles in modern and historical contexts

Two other editors and I are trying to have a real, measured discussion about how to best acknowledge Ireland's historical & modern relationships with the term British Isles. So far, it's just attracting IP trolls. Anyone interested in kicking the topic around in a cool-headed manner? Visit Talk:Ireland. Dppowell 14:50, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Ryanair FAR

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Aoife and Strongbow photos from inside Christ's Church

I want to add to the Aoife MacMurrough article. As far as I know she was burried inside Christ's Church but have never set foot in the pace and am not anywhere near Dublin anymore. I know the tomb of Stongbow was destroy centuries ago (the one inside there is a fake), but don't know if Aoife's still exists.

Would it be possible could someone in Dublin to take a photo of the tombs? Preferable, an individual shot of each and a joint one. Also could you check out what inscriptions are about it - was Aoife's destroyed too? (Or was it ever there to begin with?) --sony-youth 14:11, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Irish language POV edits

Would someone with better Irish langauge and history/geopgraphic skills than I have a look at the recent edits (maybe the older ones too) of anon user 83.71.162.221's contributions as they look distinctly Irish language POV to me even if the intent is accurate. Cheers ww2censor 18:58, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

• this the same editor who's posting as User:Each inis and has been making personal attacks? . They've been warned already for WP:NPA and will soon be blocked if they keep that up - Alison 19:10, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

• Alison, you are quick to respond. Should the edits all be reverted? Thanks ww2censor 19:15, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

• Only if they're incorrect or POV or whatever. If they keep up with the personal attacks though, report them on WP:AIV - Alison 19:41, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

From what I seen all of the place names they are changing are in Gaeltacht areas. Since 2003 the names of these places have been Irish only (see Official Languages Act). Strictly speaking, the English-language name does not exist anymore. Its like Mumbai (see that Bombay redirects there). I don't think that this is anywhere near POV - maybe like Mumbai, it could be argued that (strictly speaking, I'm not suggesting it), the names of these places should be moved and to the ("new") official name and redirected from the "old" one. One this point, actually the editor is quite conciliatory - they could just as well have deboldened the English-language name (and put it in brackets) rather than embolden both (and leave the official name in brackets). Its similar to what is done where two names exist for the same thing, even on something as innocuous as Imperial units.

Incidentally, from what I've seen these edits were done by someone who seems to know a lot about place-names and the origin geographic of family names. --sony-youth 21:12, 19 December 2006 (UTC)