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On May 13, 2020, Lee Yong-soo, a 92-year-old survivor of the ex-"comfort woman", accused Yoon Mi-hyang, former head of the Korean Council for Justice and Remembrance for the Issues of Military Sexual Slavery by Japan, for pocketing the council's money. Lee also accused the council of misappropriating money donated for the welfare of the former "comfort women." The council refused to disclose any financial documents to manifest.<ref>https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20200513000600315</ref><ref>https://www.reuters.com/places/japan/article/us-southkorea-comfortwomen/victims-absent-from-south-koreas-comfort-women-rally-amid-graft-allegations-over-ex-leader-idUSKBN22W112</ref> Politics appears to have affected on this title. --] (]) 03:06, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
On May 13, 2020, Lee Yong-soo, a 92-year-old survivor of the ex-"comfort woman", accused Yoon Mi-hyang, former head of the Korean Council for Justice and Remembrance for the Issues of Military Sexual Slavery by Japan, for pocketing the council's money. Lee also accused the council of misappropriating money donated for the welfare of the former "comfort women." The council refused to disclose any financial documents to manifest.<ref>https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20200513000600315</ref><ref>https://www.reuters.com/places/japan/article/us-southkorea-comfortwomen/victims-absent-from-south-koreas-comfort-women-rally-amid-graft-allegations-over-ex-leader-idUSKBN22W112</ref> Politics appears to have affected on this title. --] (]) 03:06, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
== Women raped by Korean soldiers during Vietnam war still awaiting apology ==
It is reported that South Korea utilized sex slaves as 'comfort women' in Vietnam War between 1964 and 1973, but never acknowledged claims of sexual violence against thousands of women and girls as young as 12, by its troops.<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/jan/19/women-raped-by-korean-soldiers-during-vietnam-war-still-awaiting-apology</ref> The fact should be added in this article. --] (]) 05:08, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
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I apologize for my incompetent editing. "Comfort Women > Establishment of the Comfort Women System > Countries of Origin" contains an image titled "Chinese and Malayan girls forcibly taken from Penang by the Japanese to work as 'comfort girls' for the troops". The source provides that same description in addition to "Allied reoccupation of the Adaman Islands,1945". Given that many of the subjects are smoking cigarettes and one subject appears to be a male infant, I suspect that it may not be an image of captive sex-slaves. Given that the source provides 2 conflicting descriptions of the image, maybe iwm.org.uk isn't a reputable source. I suspect that the veracity of this image should probably be reviewed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.48.159.76 (talk) 22:22, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
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Please consider edit this line "Stations were located in Japan, China, the Philippines, Indonesia, then Malaya, Thailand, Burma, New Guinea, Hong Kong, Macau, and French Indochina" and include Singapore as part of the article.
The Japanese had also set up at least 4 comfort stations in Singapore as well during World War 2. Kim Bok-Dong, a victim who worked as a "comfort woman", mentioned that the Japanese tried to hide the existence of these comfort stations after the war in Singapore and made these "comfort woman" to become war nurses in a hospital.
The prostitution around American bases in South Korea has been described by some as a continuation of the comfort women system.
During the years of direct U.S. occupation from 1945 to 1948, the U.S. military government created an administrative state that was dominated by Koreans who had collaborated with Japan’s colonial rulers. The leaders of this first occupying regime outlawed prostitution, but got around the prohibition by building brothels for U.S. troops. These outposts were dubbed “comfort stations” after the Japanese wartime model, according to documents Park recently unearthed from South Korea’s Ministry of Health. The shift from Japanese- to American-coerced sex work was an easy transition, she said: “High-ranking Korean officials who served under Japanese colonial rule were familiar with the comfort station system.”
The distinction between the American kichijong and the Japanese comfort-women regimes became still blurrier at the day-to-day operational level, according to the testimony now assembled from former kichijong workers.
And history turns a full circle. Activist for both the Wianbu (comfort women) and yanggongju (yankee princesses) in Korea have spent years trying to get recognition that the two are different and one was not a continuation of the other as was previously assumed. To now say it was a continuation seems to be contrary to the testimonies and wishes of those actually involved. --John B123 (talk) 17:25, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
However this is supposedly the article for comfort women, not the splash page for either group. If there is sources that cite such, they need to be included. Jusenkyoguide (talk) 22:29, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
Number of comfort women (200,000?? the article is not clear on this)
This edit caught my eye. The source cited immediately following the inserted assertion re the 200,000 figure is not readable by me, but the quote in the cite says nothing about the 200,000 figure and the assertion immediately following that a figure of "142,000 or 142,500" has been challenged is supported by a source which also challenges the 200,000 figure.
A text search for "200,000" in the article turns up a number of appearances. Some of these, on quick reading, appearing to disagree with others elsewhere in the article. Could someone more familiar with details here than I please take a look at this? It seems to me that clarification with WP:DUE in mind is needed, that the Number of comfort women section would probably be a good place to clarify this, and that other mentions of this elsewhere in the article ought probably to refer back to that section. Wtmitchell(talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 15:14, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
This seems to be the place to make this suggestion, but maybe it's impossible and part of the general coverup... I cannot find anything in the article about the testimony of the soldiers who USED the comfort stations. If there had been sincere investigations of the comfort women, then one of the most obvious ways to get evidence about the number of victims would be to ask on the other side. Surely they could have put the soldiers under oath and most of them would have told the truth. Even if they didn't want the truth to come out for the sake of the truth, they would still have been afraid of getting caught in perjury when other soldiers did testify truthfully. I suppose they could have offered immunity, too, but I doubt that would be necessary, both because there is a statute of limitations and because the soldiers were not instigators of the crimes, only witnesses and relatively uninformed participants. Actually, even at this late date there are probably enough survivors from the large numbers of troops who were involved to get more solid numbers. So returning to the suggestion aspect, if such evidence exists, then it should be included in the article and cited more clearly... Shanen (talk) 08:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
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Vietnam at the time was a satellite of Japan called "Empire of Vietnam" and Thailand was an ally of Japan. Both countries were basically allies of Japan so that there couldn't be any rape cases toward the women in these countries. 118.70.54.24 (talk) 06:38, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
Not done. I don't believe that this is so merely by virtue of your definition. In any case, the content is sourced. El_C06:42, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
I have reverted this series of edits, which would have changed the MOS:FIRSTSENTENCE of this article to begin with, "Comfort women and comfort gays", citing what was apparently intended to be a link to this as a supporting source. This change is inappropriate for an article titled Comfort women. Whether or not the substance of this change and the source supporting it belongs in this article needs to be discussed here before it is again added to the article. Wtmitchell(talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 08:30, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Its not inappropriate, all victims of this practice should be included regardless of gender. This page is about the practice of sexual slavery by the Empire of Japan, also just FYI traditionally the comfort men (or comfort gays as that piece prefers) were loped in under the name “Comfort women” so this is most certainly the place to include such information as covered by WP:RS. Horse Eye Jack (talk) 15:52, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Yes you’re right, only about 10% were men but it might be due mention in the lead... Especially as more information about it is added to the article. Currently I agree with you that its probably undue for the lead. Horse Eye Jack (talk) 03:51, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
I agree that all victims of the practice should be included in the article regardless of gender. Regarding the undue weight, as a compromise and to build consensus, it may be undue for the lead for now, but that does not invalidate the real experiences of gay sexual slaves during the occupation and the importance of it's inclusion within the article. Ggrandez17 (talk) 13:17, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
No, this experience related by a handful of gay men is not part of the comfort woman topic. Every description shows the "comfort gay" experience to be unofficial. There was no Army system with doctors hired to keep the sex slaves healthy, for instance. And the numbers are miniscule compared to the comfort woman topic. Binksternet (talk) 05:14, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Academics have generally treated the comfort men as a part of the comfort women, so just FYI they’re already accounted for statistically on the page so why not include them in detail? We also run into the tricky situation where in hindsight many of these men were what we would now identify as trans, its not an easy situation to figure out but it certainly belongs and removing it with the blatantly homophobic addendum “It's just a few gays” is questionable as all hell. Even if you don’t think it belongs on the page you went about this the completely wrong way. Horse Eye Jack (talk) 16:45, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
I’m not assuming anything, that statement is plainly offensive. Also edit warring the topic under discussion off the page while the discussion is ongoing is the exact opposite of what you’re supposed to do, properly sourced material remains on the page until the conclusion of the discussion. Horse Eye Jack (talk) 17:07, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
The principle of WP:BRD is that the contentious material stays off the page until such time as consensus is reached to add it. It is not that material is added and then a consensus is needed to remove it. --John B123 (talk) 17:53, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
A related BRD discussion had *already* been started on the talk page when Binksternet made their reversion. This also doesn't appear to be contentious material in the traditional sense, neither the material or the sources are being challenged we just have a discussion of DUE. Horse Eye Jack (talk) 18:02, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Binksternet correctly made a reversion after the content was re-added by the sock after the discussion started. The material is contentious in that its addition has been reverted by three separate editors. --John B123 (talk) 18:19, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Content was written by a serial sockpuppeteer, no reason to trust that it represents the sources, that the sources are any good, or that it doesn't cherry pick sources. Simple WP:Block evasion that we can revert and ignore. Crossroads18:39, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Political issue raised by ex-'comfort woman'
On May 13, 2020, Lee Yong-soo, a 92-year-old survivor of the ex-"comfort woman", accused Yoon Mi-hyang, former head of the Korean Council for Justice and Remembrance for the Issues of Military Sexual Slavery by Japan, for pocketing the council's money. Lee also accused the council of misappropriating money donated for the welfare of the former "comfort women." The council refused to disclose any financial documents to manifest. Politics appears to have affected on this title. --Wavethesecond (talk) 03:06, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Women raped by Korean soldiers during Vietnam war still awaiting apology
It is reported that South Korea utilized sex slaves as 'comfort women' in Vietnam War between 1964 and 1973, but never acknowledged claims of sexual violence against thousands of women and girls as young as 12, by its troops. The fact should be added in this article. --Wavethesecond (talk) 05:08, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Upsidedown Keyboard 
(talk) 15:03, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Not done. I don't believe that this is so merely by virtue of your definition. In any case, the content is sourced. El_C 06:42, 2 May 2020 (UTC)