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| In regard to , I find it funny because I usually added many information like that to those Infobox, like all the years, historical ideologies/political position, colours (both customary and official), etc. (see also my ); and while I still wish there was a way to incorporate all that without making the Infobox appear awkward, too large, etc., I have come to the conclusion that the Infobox should be like a lead, i.e. a summary, not to make it as fat as possible. In this specific case, aside from reverting other unrelated edits (some of which you ), there is no need to add all the years (the template parameter only makes reference to the name; there is nothing about years) which can be easily made as I did in the main body; but I guess they can stay since they do not actually enlarge the Infobox (I would just remove the unnecessary small template which should be avoided in Infobox and that I see being used way too many times and in an unneeded way). Why change {{tq|] --> ]}} or {{tq|] ---> ]}}? Again, we should use the main link, which in this case use ''National Socialist'', but it is not a big deal, just wondering why. Do you prefer using ''Nazi''? Or did you want the link to be shorter so that it would not look awkward? Finally, we should simply list the colour we use for the colour code (again, ironically I was the one to put that in the first place and I did it on other Infoboxes). My compromise is to leave only the brown colour and put the official Imperial colours in a note. Just one last thing, is ''Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer'' really an unofficial slogan? There is no mention of ''unofficial'' at the linked page; indeed, it reads as {{tq|ne of the Nazis' most-repeated political slogans}}, that doesn't sound like being unofficial. Thanks for your time.--] (]) 12:50, 24 May 2020 (UTC) | In regard to , I find it funny because I usually added many information like that to those Infobox, like all the years, historical ideologies/political position, colours (both customary and official), etc. (see also my ); and while I still wish there was a way to incorporate all that without making the Infobox appear awkward, too large, etc., I have come to the conclusion that the Infobox should be like a lead, i.e. a summary, not to make it as fat as possible. In this specific case, aside from reverting other unrelated edits (some of which you ), there is no need to add all the years (the template parameter only makes reference to the name; there is nothing about years) which can be easily made as I did in the main body; but I guess they can stay since they do not actually enlarge the Infobox (I would just remove the unnecessary small template which should be avoided in Infobox and that I see being used way too many times and in an unneeded way). Why change {{tq|] --> ]}} or {{tq|] ---> ]}}? Again, we should use the main link, which in this case use ''National Socialist'', but it is not a big deal, just wondering why. Do you prefer using ''Nazi''? Or did you want the link to be shorter so that it would not look awkward? Finally, we should simply list the colour we use for the colour code (again, ironically I was the one to put that in the first place and I did it on other Infoboxes). My compromise is to leave only the brown colour and put the official Imperial colours in a note. Just one last thing, is ''Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer'' really an unofficial slogan? There is no mention of ''unofficial'' at the linked page; indeed, it reads as {{tq|ne of the Nazis' most-repeated political slogans}}, that doesn't sound like being unofficial. Thanks for your time.--] (]) 12:50, 24 May 2020 (UTC) | ||
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My edit reverted
Hello Beyond My Ken,
I noticed you reverted my recent edit on Fuhrerbunker. It was a rather simple edit, simplifying utilise into use, a simpler and clearer word with - except in certain specific instances - identical meaning. I'm curious why you thought it necessary to revert my edit?
Regards, David12345 (talk) 19:09, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, "use" and "utilize" mean the same thing, but sometimes it's stylistically better to use one of them, and at other times utilize the other. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:54, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Style guides recommend using use in all instances. I'm not aware of exceptions to this. An argument could perhaps be made where use is used a so much that utilized adds variety, but this is not the case in this article. I think we should simply restore my edit because it results in simpler wording. Are you ok with this? If not, can you provide an argument for why utilize should ever be stylistically better? David12345 (talk) 19:51, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Nazi Party
In regard to this revert, I find it funny because I usually added many information like that to those Infobox, like all the years, historical ideologies/political position, colours (both customary and official), etc. (see also my proposal); and while I still wish there was a way to incorporate all that without making the Infobox appear awkward, too large, etc., I have come to the conclusion that the Infobox should be like a lead, i.e. a summary, not to make it as fat as possible. In this specific case, aside from reverting other unrelated edits (some of which you previously wrote were good), there is no need to add all the years (the template parameter only makes reference to the name; there is nothing about years) which can be easily made as I did in the main body; but I guess they can stay since they do not actually enlarge the Infobox (I would just remove the unnecessary small template which should be avoided in Infobox and that I see being used way too many times and in an unneeded way). Why change National Socialist League of the Reich for Physical Exercise --> Nazi League for Physical Exercise
or National Socialist Women's League ---> Nazi Women's League
? Again, we should use the main link, which in this case use National Socialist, but it is not a big deal, just wondering why. Do you prefer using Nazi? Or did you want the link to be shorter so that it would not look awkward? Finally, we should simply list the colour we use for the colour code (again, ironically I was the one to put that in the first place and I did it on other Infoboxes). My compromise is to leave only the brown colour and put the official Imperial colours in a note. Just one last thing, is Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer really an unofficial slogan? There is no mention of unofficial at the linked page; indeed, it reads as ne of the Nazis' most-repeated political slogans
, that doesn't sound like being unofficial. Thanks for your time.--Davide King (talk) 12:50, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Davide King: Sorry, this got deleted when I cleared out my talk page. I haven't had the time to respond to it, but I will do so soon. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:55, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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